Winx2016 v Sunline 2000

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  1. Phil McGrawhan

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    After watching that incredible win today it got me thinking .

    Which great mare had the better performance in the Cox Plate?

    As much as I love watching Winx
    IMO Sunlines win was better .

    She did it far tougher .
    Outside barrier ...they gassed her for the first 600 MTRS ....which is when she finally got somewhere near the rail .
    She was about 5 wide out of the straight With the pace right on
    Got a breather for about 400 MTRS before Child's took off .
    She blitzes them by 7 lengths .

    Don't get wrong Winx was out of this world today .
    But she had a fairly easy run for the first 1000

    Incredible motor when the pressure went on .

    So what's your thoughts .

    Here's the link to Sunlines win .
    The quality is poor
     
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  2. Haynetrain

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    Yah id say Sunline's win was slightly more impressive as well but honestly there both legends
     
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  3. dogz08

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    what about the great pinker pinker?
     
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  4. veggiepatch1959

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    I've seen the best of the best of mares and fillies over the last 40 odd years.

    Ethereal, Sunline, Special, Empire Rose, Emancipation, etc, etc.

    Sorry folks....Winx just took things to a new level today.
     
  5. Haynetrain

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    Have you seen the great Hurtle Myrtle though,magnificent 2011 Myer classic winner
     
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    I'm biased because Sunline is my favourite horse and that Cox Plate run was my favourite ever, but Winx today was just unreal. Couldn't blame anyone opting for it.
     
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    Or Bomber Bill taking out the Karrakatta Plate :cool:
     
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  8. Lemon Squash

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    Sunline was the first horse I loved as a kid, went to the front and just ran her opposition into the ground.

    She was awesome

    Its hard to compare eras but Winx now deserves to be mentioned up with any of the champions of the modern era

    If she goes and dominates like she has been for another 12 months whose to say where she will rank among the all timers.

    Doubt it would happen but I'd love to see her go overseas and do it on the world stage... I can't imagine any horse in the world would have beaten her today over 2000
     
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    I'd have Sunlines win just ahead of today's win by Winx, she had to do it real tough early with barely a breather and then put 7 on a quality field. Not taking anything away from Winx or her win today it was out of this world.

    She is now in rarified air and deserves to be mentioned with the greats of the last 30 years.
     
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    Nostalgia rules. Sunline for me. :blush:
     
  11. Haynetrain

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    Atlantic Jewel may have been up with these if she was able to race on longer,she was a beast
     
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    it's a dundeel was the only horse to beat it i think
     
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    yeah found it
     
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    Better Loosen Up (1990) holds the race record of 2.01.5
    Kingston Town is the only horse to win it 3 times.

    Winx ran it in 2:06.35 this year, but last year was faster in 2:02.98
    Sunline ran it in 2.07.70 in 2000, 2.05.40 in 1999

    Obviously, different track conditions apply for each year but that 2.01.5 by Better Loosen Up will take some beating.

    All Cox plate race times and winners here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cox_Plate_winners

    Btw this one was my favourite Cox Plate of all time ... these two were freaks

     
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  15. Lemon Squash

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    Thousand Guineas win was outrageous

    Injuries and being owned by Coolmore just crueled any chance of her being up there in that elite level. Same as Nechita, Pierro, Vancouver and plenty of others.

    Irish dweebs are too concerned about breeding than the good of the sport. People love champion horses, they should be running for as long as possible.
     
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    That race finished both of them, they were never the same horses after that.
     
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    Thats the reason Mares have become so dominant the last 10-15 years, all the good colts are at stud at 3 or 4 because they can earn more at stud then they can on the track. The studs are pretty are much running the industry these days.
     
  18. Haynetrain

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    This punter gonna go to America in 2017 breeding season
     
  19. Haynetrain

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    Even some Americans are saying Winx is the best horse in the world,she made some headlines in a few of there racing websites and the comments from the punters under the article are very positive

    You must be good when even biased Americans are saying you're the best
     
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  20. Haynetrain

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    Street Cry produced Zenyatta and Winx,two of the greatest mares ever O.O
     

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