World 9s 2019

[Pommy]

After the WC fiasco I can see Stallion's point. If this event is going to be successful the earlier advertising starts the better.

The World Cup was a totally different situation. Neither fox or 9 had the rights, whilst I think it’s shit that both broadcasters showed so little respect to the game to talk about it, I can also understand a business not wanting to advertise for a competitor. This is different Foxtel have the rights and will hype it up, they have a lot to gain from it being a success. I don’t imagine we will see much on 9s NRL coverage though.
I will still add that’s it’s still April and Foxtel have about a billion other sporting events to push between now and then.
External advertising is down to the event organisers to deal with though.

 

[Pommy]

Lol . You overdramatic fool. They(FOX) are and have been published icing other events fir other sports well before APRIL !

And they’re publicising this one now as well. This is a tiny event though and Foxtel are not rugby leagues marketing arm. They owe RL nothing more than they do AFL, cricket, rugby, football or any other event they broadcast.
It might surprise you but not many people care about it and Foxtel are not going to plough resources in to advertising an event advertisers aren’t going to pay top dollar for like the ashes or the rugby World Cup. Maybe in a few years when this event has proven itself and hopefully Nrl players are raping a few less women advertisers will be happy to pay Foxtel more money for this event.

 

[Stallion]

And they’re publicising this one now as well. This is a tiny event though and Foxtel are not rugby leagues marketing arm. They owe RL nothing more than they do AFL, cricket, rugby, football or any other event they broadcast.
It might surprise you but not many people care about it and Foxtel are not going to plough resources in to advertising an event advertisers aren’t going to pay top dollar for like the ashes or the rugby World Cup. Maybe in a few years when this event has proven itself and hopefully Nrl players are raping a few less women advertisers will be happy to pay Foxtel more money for this event.

States the high and mighty!? Lol Have you figured out that rugby league is the most potent tv football product in Australia. Your low estimation of this code defies belief. A decent minded broadcaster would be promoting this innaugural World Nines proudly if it were fair dinkum about this codes interest! After all FOX virtually brought the code to its knees and now the time has a supreme product so.it's should be pushing it bigtime.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

States the high and mighty!? Lol Have you figured out that rugby league is the most potent tv football product in Australia. Your low estimation of this code defies belief. A decent minded broadcaster would be promoting this innaugural World Nines proudly if it were fair dinkum about this codes interest! After all FOX virtually brought the code to its knees and now the time has a supreme product so.it's should be pushing it bigtime.

What he is trying to say to you is that yes, RL 13's has a proven track record of driving ratings and subscriptions for Fox. RL 9's does not - in fact the international version of 9's has zero track record. We would all love to see wall-to-wall advertising of this event - I personally love the concept, but an event needs to prove itself first before Fox (that broadcasts many big sporting events with proven track records) will hype it up. Besides, once the NRL season finishes and there is no major football codes on anymore I'm sure you'll see quite a bit of advertising for it.

Pommy is right when he says that it is not Fox's job to hype it up - especially not in April. All advertising in April will do will boost ticket sales. Fox want to boost ratings and subscriptions, not ticket sales which is why you won't see the ads til after the NRL GF to try and keep RL fans from cancelling their subscription for one more month after the season is over.

 

[Stallion]

What he is trying to say to you is that yes, RL 13's has a proven track record of driving ratings and subscriptions for Fox. RL 9's does not - in fact the international version of 9's has zero track record. We would all love to see wall-to-wall advertising of this event - I personally love the concept, but an event needs to prove itself first before Fox (that broadcasts many big sporting events with proven track records) will hype it up. Besides, once the NRL season finishes and there is no major football codes on anymore I'm sure you'll see quite a bit of advertising for it.

Pommy is right when he says that it is not Fox's job to hype it up - especially not in April. All advertising in April will do will boost ticket sales. Fox want to boost ratings and subscriptions, not ticket sales which is why you won't see the ads til after the NRL GF to try and keep RL fans from cancelling their subscription for one more month after the season is over.

Not discussing track records. The mere fact it's linked to the most popular football code on tv in Australia gives it legitimacy! Not another onus of proof! So much disrespect for the code. Unbelievable lack of faith and worthy regard.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Not discussing track records. the mere fact it's linked to the most popular football code in Australia gives it legitimacy! Not another onus of proof! So much disrespect for the code. Unbelievable lack of faith and worthy regard.

9's is different to 13's just like 7's is different to 15's. Because one drives ratings and subscriptions, doesn't mean the other one will.

9's RL and international RL is less popular than NRL. Combine 9's and international RL and you have an unknown level of interest.

 

[Stallion]

9's is different to 13's just like 7's is different to 15's. Because one drives ratings and subscriptions, doesn't mean the other one will.

9's RL and international RL is less popular than NRL. Combine 9's and international RL and you have an unknown level of interest.

Nope. In Australia the audience is there to enjoy. The rugby league has already done the hard work. Capitalizing on this established market advantage is good business acumen. Instead we have eggshells as policy.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Nope. In Australia the audience is there to enjoy. The rugby league has already done the hard work. Capitalizing on this established market advantage is good business acumen. Instead we have eggshells as policy.

Just so that I'm clear, are you asserting that the international game is just as popular in Australia as the NRL? Are you also asserting that 9's is as popular as 13's in Australia?

 

[Shark62]

Just so that I'm clear, are you asserting that the international game is just as popular in Australia as the NRL? Are you also asserting that 9's is as popular as 13's in Australia?

Why do you waste so much time with this peanut?

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Why do you waste so much time with this peanut?

I just like to take him to the logical conclusion of his arguments in the hope to show him how rediculous some of the things he says are. I can always pick the moment he realises because he stops replying.

 

[Stallion]

Just so that I'm clear, are you asserting that the international game is just as popular in Australia as the NRL? Are you also asserting that 9's is as popular as 13's in Australia?

I'm stating that given the proper public profile: Absolutely YES! You conveniently forget that when the Kangaroos played NZ for the Anzac Day test it consistently reaped ratings well above any sport or club game on that weekend. It's the failing of current administrators that the international game has been lowly regarded. Otherwise it's a top notch ratings winner going to waste! You only have to note that these administrators can't see the merits in a long awaited Kangaroos v LIONS test in NSW yet it goes through to the keeper. The incompetence is there. It requires being called out and criticized .

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I'm stating that given the proper public profile: Absolutely YES! You conveniently forget that when the Kangaroos played NZ for the Anzac Day test it consistently reaped ratings well above any sport or club game on that weekend. It's the failing of current administrators that the international game has been lowly regarded. Otherwise it's a top notch ratings winner going to waste! You only have to note that these administrators can't see the merits in a long awaited Kangaroos v LIONS test in NSW yet it goes through to the keeper. The incompetence is there. It requires being called out and criticized .

I agree that Australia v any combination of England, New Zealand, GB or even Tonga would rate very well and the world cup ratings were decent. But the international game is not as popular as the NRL and does not drive subscriptions and 9's is nowhere near as popular as 13's, simply because it is a relatively new concept.

Why would Fox advertise the event now instead of in September / October when they will grab the attention of eyeballs much closer to the event?

 

[Pommy]

I'm stating that given the proper public profile: Absolutely YES! You conveniently forget that when the Kangaroos played NZ for the Anzac Day test it consistently reaped ratings well above any sport or club game on that weekend. It's the failing of current administrators that the international game has been lowly regarded. Otherwise it's a top notch ratings winner going to waste! You only have to note that these administrators can't see the merits in a long awaited Kangaroos v LIONS test in NSW yet it goes through to the keeper. The incompetence is there. It requires being called out and criticized .

the fact australia vs Kiwis rated well on a weekend where there was very limited other RL is hardly a surprise is it? The fact east Melbourne vs West Melbourne couldn’t draw as well in cretin ball is nothing to shout about.

 

[Stallion]

the fact australia vs Kiwis rated well on a weekend where there was very limited other RL is hardly a surprise is it? The fact east Melbourne vs West Melbourne couldn’t draw as well in cretin ball is nothing to shout about.

Lol. You are not seriously doubting the popularity of the Kangaroos on FTA tv in Australia? If so ? Get a reality check. The Kangaroos have massive pull in gaining tv audiences. It's been proven not only in recent times but over decades. I shake my head at some of the disrespectful stuff you come up with!

 

[Springs09]

Great. Thread derailed again.

Who’s planning on going? It’ll likely be the only time I get to go to the footy this year, unless parramatta make the GF. Seeing that many international teams in one place will be a treat.

 

[Stallion]

What he is trying to say to you is that yes, RL 13's has a proven track record of driving ratings and subscriptions for Fox. RL 9's does not - in fact the international version of 9's has zero track record. We would all love to see wall-to-wall advertising of this event - I personally love the concept, but an event needs to prove itself first before Fox (that broadcasts many big sporting events with proven track records) will hype it up. Besides, once the NRL season finishes and there is no major football codes on anymore I'm sure you'll see quite a bit of advertising for it.

Pommy is right when he says that it is not Fox's job to hype it up - especially not in April. All advertising in April will do will boost ticket sales. Fox want to boost ratings and subscriptions, not ticket sales which is why you won't see the ads til after the NRL GF to try and keep RL fans from cancelling their subscription for one more month after the season is over.

And FOX is clearly hyping up other codes with tournaments in October!? And has been doing so for some time now.

 

[Stallion]

Great. Thread derailed again.

Who’s planning on going? It’ll likely be the only time I get to go to the footy this year, unless parramatta make the GF. Seeing that many international teams in one place will be a treat.

? Not derailed. I'm looking to go on the Saturday only. But haven't seen tickets for just Saturday only as yet.

 

[Shark62]

Great. Thread derailed again.

Who’s planning on going? It’ll likely be the only time I get to go to the footy this year, unless parramatta make the GF. Seeing that many international teams in one place will be a treat.

It’s only derailed if you allow his posts to contaminate the thread. Life without Stallion is terrific and LU is a better place without him.

 

[Pommy]

Lol. You are not seriously doubting the popularity of the Kangaroos on FTA tv in Australia? If so ? Get a reality check. The Kangaroos have massive pull in gaining tv audiences. It's been proven not only in recent times but over decades. I shake my head at some of the disrespectful stuff you come up with!

No I’m not disputing the potential they have. I just don’t think saying they get a better viewership than an AFL club games means anything.

 

[Pommy]

And FOX is clearly hyping up other codes with tournaments in October!? And has been doing so for some time now.

Yes because Fox see them as better money making ventures, international 9s has no form and many people aren’t interested yet.
It could take a few tournaments before it becomes an event the average punter cares about.
I’m a rugby league fan who has an interest higher than the average punter and I’m not even than bothered. I would much rather have had a weekend of extra 13 as side games. Maybe after this event my interest will increase.
Even you only have enough interest to go for a single day.