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Tiger5150

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Just a point of interest: the majority of countries that currently criminalise homosexuality (or, more correctly, different sexualities and transgender etc) are ex British colonies. It tends to be a hangover of British colonialism. Islam hasn‘t, historically, been particularly hung-up about it. It’s modern Islamist extremist regimes that have become particularly punitive about it (ie: its criminalisation is more culturally and politically motivated, than religious).

You sure?

 

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The Rosco

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Who says “Our Father”?

Perhaps Catholics.
Well, you'd have to be some kind of dumb merkin to think otherwise, especially when you consider those words are the introduction to a Catholic prayer.
Who thinks a bloke with a beard, a set of balls, a penis, and all the manly things that testosterone brings . . . . is a woman ?
Perhaps a fruitcake ?
 

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Well, you'd have to be some kind of dumb merkin to think otherwise, especially when you consider those words are the introduction to a Catholic prayer.
Who thinks a bloke with a beard, a set of balls, a penis, and all the manly things that testosterone brings . . . . is a woman ?
Perhaps a fruitcake ?
You might be onto something. Maybe god is transgender? (This thread has gone rogue).
 

The Rosco

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You might be onto something. Maybe god is transgender? (This thread has gone rogue).
Oh no.
After reading my post, I saw how someone might think I was referring to God.
No mate, I'm talking about your bloke that has stood to piss his whole life, has chest hair and a beard, a pair of balls and a willy . . . . but after seeing the delicate rays of the sun reflect off a flower in a particular afternoon glow in the springtime . . . has decided he is a woman.
Strange days indeed.
 

Tiger5150

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Yes, I’m sure. Refer to the first ‘Key Fact’ in your post : ‘71 jurisdictions … almost half of them are Commonwealth jurisdictions’. The second part of my post mentions that modern Islamist regimes are particularly punitive.

so.......NOT a majority? Most of the Countries have never been British Colonies and most of the ones that were gained independence 100 years ago Nothing to do with British Colonisation. Islam is the overwhelming common denominator.
 

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Who says “Our Father”?

Perhaps Catholics.
Jesus, according to the bible. They didn't have dna tests back then, so Mary might have made that shit up and Jesus just went along with it so the family avoided the embarrassment.

Maybe his real dad is Finchys great great x 200 Grandfather?
 

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so.......NOT a majority? Most of the Countries have never been British Colonies and most of the ones that were gained independence 100 years ago Nothing to do with British Colonisation. Islam is the overwhelming common denominator

I've agreed several times that Islamist regimes are particularly punitive and repressive but, I'm sorry, it is a fact that many of the jurisdictions around the world that still criminalise homosexuality enforce legislatures that derive from British colonial histories. It is, in fact, a majority: 36 out of 71 countries. Islam is a large, but not the overwhelming common denominator. The common denominator is extreme conservatism - whether it's a hangover from colonialism, or religious extremism - both Islamist and fundamentalist Christianity.

Colonial legacy

Many of the laws criminalising homosexual relations originate from colonial times.
And in many places, breaking these laws could be punishable by long prison sentences.
Out of the 53 countries in the Commonwealth - a loose association of countries most of them former British colonies - 36 have laws that criminalise homosexuality.
Countries that criminalise homosexuality today also have criminal penalties against women who have sex with women, although the original British laws applied only to men.
The International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (Ilga) monitors the progress of laws relating to homosexuality around the world.

It says the death penalty is the legally prescribed punishment for same-sex sexual acts in Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and in the northern states in Nigeria.
 

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I've agreed several times that Islamist regimes are particularly punitive and repressive but, I'm sorry, it is a fact that many of the jurisdictions around the world that still criminalise homosexuality enforce legislatures that derive from British colonial histories. It is, in fact, a majority: 36 out of 71 countries. Islam is a large, but not the overwhelming common denominator. The common denominator is extreme conservatism - whether it's a hangover from colonialism, or religious extremism - both Islamist and fundamentalist Christianity.

Colonial legacy

Many of the laws criminalising homosexual relations originate from colonial times.
And in many places, breaking these laws could be punishable by long prison sentences.
Out of the 53 countries in the Commonwealth - a loose association of countries most of them former British colonies - 36 have laws that criminalise homosexuality.
Countries that criminalise homosexuality today also have criminal penalties against women who have sex with women, although the original British laws applied only to men.
The International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (Ilga) monitors the progress of laws relating to homosexuality around the world.

It says the death penalty is the legally prescribed punishment for same-sex sexual acts in Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and in the northern states in Nigeria.

Complete rubbish. Most of these ex British colonies became independent more than 100 years ago. Aus, GB & Canada had laws against homosexuality, what changed? A progressive system of democracy, culture and society. The fact that these countries once were (most over 100 years ago) british colonies is irrelevant, what has happened since is the reason that these laws remain.

Which of those countries do you contend has these laws due to "fundamentalist Christianity"?
 
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