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Your starting side - 2013

hardbaby

Coach
Messages
17,137
For a team that has had star-studded backlines for two decades, what has happened to the mighty Broncos? Would have to be one of the weakest backlines in the league. I guess things go in cycles but the Broncos have been so good for so long, it just looks strange looking at a team like that.
 

Kiwi

First Grade
Messages
9,471
1. Kahu
2. Copley
3. Reed
4. Hodges
5. Hoffman
6. Prince
7. Wallace
8. Thaiday
9. McCullough
10. Hannant
11. Glenn
12. Parker
13. Stagg

14. Baptiste
15. McGuire
16. Gillett
17. Hala

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Yeah nice way to reward our best front rower from this year, leave him on the bench and move a second rower there. He'll be out the door when his next contract is due. McGuire should be one of our starting props and will be, unless Griffin is actually an idiot like henjack, which I highly doubt.
 

APRIL BELLE

Juniors
Messages
503
The coach got caught up in size over skills.
The likes of Reed, Gillett, Norman, Copley, Whitchurch are just some examples.

The Broncos are making them bigger. Copley was given a target of putting 8kgs in the previous off season.

He once was lightning quick. The Broncos are fixated on weight development and making their players bigger.

Des Hasler has the opposite view. He has his teams doing less leg weights than the other clubs. He believes and is quoted as saying "you cant run with fat legs". imo Hasler has got it right.
 

Boy

Juniors
Messages
158
I think Copley should be on the same side as maranta
And we should be aiming for Whitchurch to fill in at fullback when hodges goes down
If Hoffman wants it make him earn it
Prince at 5/8 but with freedom to order wallace
 

DeeJ

Bench
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3,119
The Broncos are making them bigger. Copley was given a target of putting 8kgs in the previous off season.

He once was lightning quick. The Broncos are fixated on weight development and making their players bigger.

Des Hasler has the opposite view. He has his teams doing less leg weights than the other clubs. He believes and is quoted as saying "you cant run with fat legs". imo Hasler has got it right.

To be fair, the size argument changes every year. I remember before the 2011 season all our forwards were over 100kg after a big pre season and they dominated all year.
 

ShaneO85

Juniors
Messages
513
The Broncos are making them bigger. Copley was given a target of putting 8kgs in the previous off season.

He once was lightning quick. The Broncos are fixated on weight development and making their players bigger.

Des Hasler has the opposite view. He has his teams doing less leg weights than the other clubs. He believes and is quoted as saying "you cant run with fat legs". imo Hasler has got it right.

i think donovan bailey
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and michael johnson
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may disagree with des... although i'm not sure massive bulk is the right idea for league either... horses for courses i guess... no point doing slow massive weights (pure strength) but large explosive legs (power) are what would work better for an outside back.. let the props do the massive leg presses..
 

qld aussie

Juniors
Messages
110
1. Norman
2. Hoffman
3. Copley
4. Hodges
5. Maranta/ Yow Yeh (when ready)
6. Wallace
7. Prince
8. Parker
9. McCullough
10. Hannant
11. Glenn
12. Thaiday
13. Gillett

14. McGuire
15. Stagg
16. Reed
17. Hala
 
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Kiwi

First Grade
Messages
9,471
1. Norman
2. Hoffman
3. Copley
4. Hodges
5. Maranta/ Yow Yeh (when ready)
6. Wallace
7. Prince
8. Parker
9. McCullough
10. Hannant
11. Glenn
12. Thaiday
13. Gillett

14. McGuire
15. Stagg
16. Reed
17. Hala

The bits in bold...no no no no no no.

Gillett isn't a starter yet, when he can be consistent like Parker, Glenn ect then he can start. Why leave McGuire on the bench? That is just plain stupid, he was our best prop this year and should and will get a starting spot next year. Hoffman is not a winger at all, I can just see him getting owned every week, especially under the high ball. it's either fullback or reserves, it's that simple. Personally after his comments this year I would make him start the year in reserves and earn his spot back. Parker to front row? Why we have McGuire.

After some thought this would be my starting line up

1 - Hodges ( he wants to play there, fine, give him a chance, especially if it brings out the best in him and would mean Hoffman would have to play out of his skin to get back in the side, a win win )
2 - Maranta
3 - Reed
4 - Copely
5 - Yow Yeh
6 - Wallace
7 - Prince
8 - McGuire
9 - McCullough
10 - Hannant
11 - Thaiday
12 - Glenn
13 - Parker

14 - Hunt
15 - Hala
16 - J Wallace
17 - Gillett ( would be on notice, pull your finger out or join Norman and Hoffman in reserves )
 

Kiwi

First Grade
Messages
9,471
Good side Kiwi, Copely wing, Norman centre until Yow Yeh comes well perhaps?

Whitchurch, Kahu or someone from a feeder club on the wing till Yow Yeh comes back. I hate the move everyone around when someone gets hurt. Just bring a replacement for that position.
 

mean_maori_mean

Juniors
Messages
2,251
Only reason hodges wants to play fullback - is he has lost his speed/agility to play centre.

Similar to Ropati - who after too many injuries only looks good whilst playing from the back
 

Hench

Juniors
Messages
381
1. Julian O'Neill
2. Michael Hancock
3. Steve Renouf
4. Chris Johns
5. Willie Carne
6. Kevin Walters
7. Allan Langer
8. Glenn Lazarus
9. Kerrod Walters
10. Gavin Allen
11. Trevor Gillmeister
12. Alan Cann
13. Terry Matterson

14. Mark Hohn
15. Andrew Gee
16. John Plath
17. Tony Currie
 

ShaneO85

Juniors
Messages
513
1. Julian O'Neill
2. Michael Hancock
3. Steve Renouf
4. Chris Johns
5. Willie Carne
6. Kevin Walters
7. Allan Langer
8. Glenn Lazarus
9. Kerrod Walters
10. Gavin Allen
11. Trevor Gillmeister
12. Alan Cann
13. Terry Matterson

14. Mark Hohn
15. Andrew Gee
16. John Plath
17. Tony Currie

haha.. 20 years later... damn we had some quality in the 90s... how many current players would force their way into that lineup?
 

whykickamoocow

Juniors
Messages
134
haha.. 20 years later... damn we had some quality in the 90s... how many current players would force their way into that lineup?

1. Julian O'Neill
2. Michael Hancock
3. Steve Renouf
4. Hodges
5. Willie Carne
6. Kevin Walters
7. Allan Langer
8. Glenn Lazarus
9. Kerrod Walters
10. Hannant
11. Trevor Gillmeister
12. Thaiday
13. Parker

14. McGuire
15. Andrew Gee
16. John Plath
17. Tony Currie
 

Big Pete

Referee
Messages
29,108
Pretty much agree although I would have...

Andrew McCullough > Plath
Alex Glenn > Tony Currie

Heck at the risk of ruffling a few feathers I believe Glenn is a better package than Gillmeister.

Gillett would also be pushing. He's kind of like a modern day Cann, Matty.
 

Hench

Juniors
Messages
381
I'm not sure why people are having a go at posters naming McGuire on the bench. His best work has come from off the bench. He was outstanding at the backend of 2011 coming off the bench and then playing the final 60 minutes.
 

ShaneO85

Juniors
Messages
513
1. Julian O'Neill
2. Michael Hancock
3. Steve Renouf
4. Hodges
5. Willie Carne
6. Kevin Walters
7. Allan Langer
8. Glenn Lazarus
9. Kerrod Walters
10. Hannant
11. Trevor Gillmeister
12. Thaiday
13. Parker

14. McGuire
15. Andrew Gee
16. John Plath
17. Tony Currie

I pretty much follow your thoughts although i'd find a place for alex glenn i think, probably at the expense of tony currie
 

unbreaK

Juniors
Messages
1,014
Revised Team:

1. Josh Hoffman
2. Jharal Yow Yeh (Dale Copley; until Jharal is 100%)
3. Justin Hodges
4. Jack Reed
5. Denan Kemp
6. Peter Wallace
7. Scott Prince
8. Ben Hannant
9. Andrew McCullough
10. Josh McGuire
11. Alex Glenn
12. Sam Thaiday (c)
13. Corey Parker (vc)

14. David Stagg
15. Corey Norman
16. David Hala
17. Matt Gillett
 

Frank_Grimes

First Grade
Messages
7,023
For a bit of variety:

1. Hodges
2. Kemp
3. Reed
4. Norman
5. Hoffman
6. Wallace
7. Prince
8. Hannant
9. McC
10. McG
11. Thaiday
12. Glenn
13. Parker

14. Hunt
15. Stagg
16. Gillett
17. Hala
 

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