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Poupou Escobar

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Hindy plays like a prop anyway, does more work then them, so what makes you think he needs to be interchanged.

He makes less runs in 80 minutes than any of the props make in 40 minutes. The fact he does so much defending in the middle allows the front-rowers to focus on running the ball.

If he made more runs he'd be rooted a lot quicker and his runs and defence would be less effective. For that matter, his hit-ups just aren't good enough for a first grade front-rower.

Try and look at it this way; you have 3 tight forwards on the field at any one time. In our team one of those tight forwards (Hindy) plays 80 minutes and makes very few runs relative to the other two, who know they will play limited minutes and so make more runs per minute than any other player on the field.

These two are interchanged with another two front-rowers who play the exact same role when they come on.

You might notice at all times there's a 'main' front-rower making most of the runs. On our team this is alternately Mannah and Fui. The other guy makes less runs and works harder in defence, but still gets limited minutes. Hindy could play this role but why not leave him on for 80 minutes (he is the captain, after all) doing what he does best (tackling) and leave the centrefield carries to the experts?

If Hindy played front-row then you'd have to nominate one of the other back-rowers to play in the centre (otherwise it'll f**k the structure). I'm certain that's what happened for a period on Friday anyway, because we only had 3 props in the 17 and Hindy 'only' played 70-odd minutes. He probably joined the prop rotation at some stage - it was either him or Horo.

There are plenty of 80 minute props out there, Im sure Hindy can do it to.

Nah, there's none mate.

Lets face it, Hindy isnt the attacking player he once was.

Totally agree. But he's not hurting our attack by staying in the middle of the field.

Having Smith, Lasalo and Horo out there, then interchange with a wide running Fui, Will give us a bit more potency on the edge, giving us a bit of attacking options.

Smith, Lasalo and Horo are certainly all more effective out wide but they can't all be on the field at once. And if they are then one needs to play in the middle (all teams play this structure, not just us).

As for Fui running wide, he's always done that. He did it a few times against the Bunnies, including one (good) run from dummy half 20m from the sideline.

Props are there to run the ball. That's their main job, especially Mannah and Moimoi. Most of the time, if they're available for the carry they'll get it, unless there's something else on (a kick or a shift, for example).

Im sorry for having a different opinion to you poo poo.

Mate, there's nothing wrong with having a different opinion, just don't always post it here, ok?
 
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IFR33K

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He makes less runs in 80 minutes than any of the props make in 40 minutes. The fact he does so much defending in the middle allows the front-rowers to focus on running the ball.

If he made more runs he'd be rooted a lot quicker and his runs and defence would be less effective. For that matter, his hit-ups just aren't good enough for a first grade front-rower.

Try and look at it this way; you have 3 tight forwards on the field at any one time. In our team one of those tight forwards (Hindy) plays 80 minutes and makes very few runs relative to the other two, who know they will play limited minutes and so make more runs per minute than any other player on the field.

These two are interchanged with another two front-rowers who play the exact same role when they come on.

You might notice at all times there's a 'main' front-rower making most of the runs. On our team this is alternately Mannah and Fui. The other guy makes less runs and works harder in defence, but still gets limited minutes. Hindy could play this role but why not leave him on for 80 minutes (he is the captain, after all) doing what he does best (tackling) and leave the centrefield carries to the experts?

If Hindy played front-row then you'd have to nominate one of the other back-rowers to play in the centre (otherwise it'll f**k the structure). I'm certain that's what happened for a period on Friday anyway, because we only had 3 props in the 17 and Hindy 'only' played 70-odd minutes. He probably joined the prop rotation at some stage - it was either him or Horo.



Nah, there's none mate.



Totally agree. But he's not hurting our attack by staying in the middle of the field.



Smith, Lasalo and Horo are certainly all more effective out wide but they can't all be on the field at once. And if they are then one needs to play in the middle (all teams play this structure, not just us).

As for Fui running wide, he's always done that. He did it a few times against the Bunnies, including one (good) run from dummy half 20m from the sideline.

Props are there to run the ball. That's their main job, especially Mannah and Moimoi. Most of the time, if they're available for the carry they'll get it, unless there's something else on (a kick or a shift, for example).



Mate, there's nothing wrong with having a different opinion, just don't always post it here, ok?


Obviously the idea would be for him to make plenty of runs, and reduce his defense to around 35 tackles, over the 80 minute period. Not expecting him to make the usual 50 tackles.


Pretty sure in the modern era, Asatasi and Steve Price have played 80 minutes on a few occasions.
 

gustarny

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Marmin is 68 kg wringing wet .The promising thing is thats the weight ben was at the same age ,ben is now 89 kg .Marmin needs a good two offseasons to build his weight up before we even think about playing him in NRL.He would get masacred at 68kg.
 

mrpwnd

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Marmin is 68 kg wringing wet .The promising thing is thats the weight ben was at the same age ,ben is now 89 kg .Marmin needs a good two offseasons to build his weight up before we even think about playing him in NRL.He would get masacred at 68kg.
68kg!?
I'm surprised he can even compete in U20s with that weight tbh lol.
 

Noise

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chemicals aside, geeze we r going to want to pick the right side next week....Cowboys look bloody good tonight!
 

Poupou Escobar

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I'm glad they won. It means they won't try so hard next week.

Of course, if we don't try hard next week either we're f**ked.
 
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Can't believe people are wanting barba in the team. The kid is good but he makes a twig look big. He's at Keats 2-3 years off 1st grade.
 

salvy71

Juniors
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1,194
1. P.Taylor
2. N.Hunt
3. M.Cronin
4. S.Ella
5. E.Grothe
6. B.Kenny
7. P.Sterling
8. T.Leabeater
9. M.Mosely
10. G.Bugden
11. S.Sharp
12. M.Laurie
13. R.Price

Res.
Wynn , Mares , Delroy , O' Reilly ....

This team would go ok ...lets face it - they're not much older than the squad we have .....
 

salvy71

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Oops - just short circuited my keyboard from the tears streaming down my cheeks as I look at that team .
 

Parra Guru

Coach
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1. Hayne
2. Hicks
3. Horo
4. Reddy
5. Atkins
6. Burt
7. Robson
13. Shackleton
12. Smith
11. Hindmarsh
10. Allgood
9. Mitchell
8. Mannah

14. Keating
15. Webb
16. Rogers
17. Lassalo
 
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104
1. Hayne
2. hayne
3. Hayne
4. hayne
5. hayne
6. Hayne
7. hayne
8. hindmarsh
9. Hindmarsh
10. Hindmarsh
11. Hindmarsh (c) !
12. Hindmarsh
13. Himdmarsh
 

Poupou Escobar

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1. Hayne
2. hayne
3. Hayne
4. hayne
5. hayne
6. Hayne
7. hayne
8. hindmarsh
9. Hindmarsh
10. Hindmarsh
11. Hindmarsh (c) !
12. Hindmarsh
13. Himdmarsh

I'd probably put Hayne at hooker and in the two wide back-row spots.

Not keen on Hindy as a front-rower either.

My team:

1. Hayne
2. Hayne
3. Hayne
4. Hayne
5. Hayne
6. Hayne
7. Hayne
8. Mannah
9. Hayne
10. Mannah
11. Hindmarsh (c)
12. Hayne
13. Hayne

14. Hayne
15. Hayne
16. Mannah
17. Mannah
 
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