your team vs Panthers?

[shane1970]

lol at you fellas picking Gids at FB and moving Darius to the wing. You do realise that he was the biggest factor in us even scoring a point on Friday night dont you?

Comedians

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The only thing FUNNIER is those that select Pete in the centres !:lol::lol::crazy::sarcasm::shock:

 

[Rolla]

lol at you fellas picking Gids at FB and moving Darius to the wing. You do realise that he was the biggest factor in us even scoring a point on Friday night dont you?

Comedians

Don't you know the forum gets all loco when we lose?

They're brains go to a place where it is logical to take a guy we desperately need to find form... and put him on a wing where he can't use his strengths. Then take a top winger in Jimmy and put him in the centres where all his strengths are nullified too.

 

[Frederick]

lol at you fellas picking Gids at FB and moving Darius to the wing. You do realise that he was the biggest factor in us even scoring a point on Friday night dont you?

Comedians

Billy2 once again trying to prove that local junior Kurt Gidley is a better fullback than import Darius Boyd.

 

[RABK]

Don't you know the forum gets all loco when we lose?

They're brains go to a place where it is logical to take a guy we desperately need to find form... and put him on a wing where he can't use his strengths. Then take a top winger in Jimmy and put him in the centres where all his strengths are nullified too.

Yeh the forum is one and all billy2.

Give yourself an uppercut.

 

[macavity]

lol Kelly

 

[billy2]

Kelly would lose his place in NSW cup on form.

Gidley is better than Boyd on what we have seen in Knights colours - and he is certainly the fullback we need.
If Gids dropped as many balls at the back as Boyd did on Friday or only chimed in 2 or 3 times all game we'd be calling for his head.
We needs Gids to be busy at the back, taking turns at dummy half, even running the ball back and not shovelling it off to anyone he can find like Boyd is doing.
Gids is a matchwinner at fullback.
Boyd is a slightly better and very much overpaid version of Shannon McDonnell - but he doesn't seem to come into the attack as much as Shannon.

 

[Rolla]

Yeh the forum is one and all billy2.

Give yourself an uppercut.

He wasn't the only one.

Opinions are fine. But surely you have noticed they get radical/drastic whenever we lose. I don't mind, it is interesting and if nothing else good for a laugh.

 

[Rolla]

Kelly would lose his place in NSW cup on form.

Gidley is better than Boyd on what we have seen in Knights colours - and he is certainly the fullback we need.
If Gids dropped as many balls at the back as Boyd did on Friday or only chimed in 2 or 3 times all game we'd be calling for his head.
We needs Gids to be busy at the back, taking turns at dummy half, even running the ball back and not shovelling it off to anyone he can find like Boyd is doing.
Gids is a matchwinner at fullback.
Boyd is a slightly better and very much overpaid version of Shannon McDonnell - but he doesn't seem to come into the attack as much as Shannon.

Boyd has dropped the pill at the back what? Once in six rounds? Also he played his best game this year on friday.

I agree gids has offered in the past more than Boyd is now. But boyd is a class above and if we are aiming for anything beyond a repeat of seasons past we need him to continue to improve until he is in form. Gids to fullback is such a negative, backwards step mate (imo of course)

 

[billy2]

People say Boyd had his best game of the year on Friday because he finally did one good thing in attack.
I say he had his worst game yet. He looked unsafe under the high ball for the first time and he showed no interest in running the ball back.
We need a fullback who runs for 150 metres, gets involved when others are running out of steam, likes to do extra work at dummy half, will slip into the defensive line if it looks like the boys are tired - I know where we can find a fullback like that.

 

[Rolla]

That is not why i think he had his best game. I think it was his best because he lead kick chases. He got more involved, he looked more interested and returned the ball with more interest (we seem to disagree with this point). I don't think we need a fullback who can run 150 metres, i think we need a forward pack that can make yards and i think we have the best yardage wingers in the comp. I don't want our fullback doing hitups like gids did. Boyd also made quite a few good tackles in the defensive line on Friday. Gids can get involved from dummy half as a half back, as well as lift the boys when they run out of steam.

 

[macavity]

People say Boyd had his best game of the year on Friday because he finally did one good thing in attack.
I say he had his worst game yet. He looked unsafe under the high ball for the first time and he showed no interest in running the ball back.
We need a fullback who runs for 150 metres, gets involved when others are running out of steam, likes to do extra work at dummy half, will slip into the defensive line if it looks like the boys are tired - I know where we can find a fullback like that.

Agreed.

Gids > Boyd.

 

[NoSchitSherlock]

Very early in the season Boyd had a blank look on his face when McManus ran the ball back after a kick without passing to him. It was like "Why didn't he pass it to me?". Now he seems to just accept that Jimmy and Aku do the metres from kick returns and mostly just passes it to them.

 

[billy2]

The bottom line is - having our two highest paid players as specialist fullbacks is crazy.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Gids is not a specialist fullback. He has never been a specialist anything his whole career

Boyds first kick return of the game was exactly what Gids has never done at the back, straight and hard between players. Thats how good fullbacks return the ball

Boyd has underperformed for us this year no doubt but FMD if you think Gids has ever had a game as good as what Darius consistantly produced when he was at the Dragons you are dead set kidding yourself.

Comparing him to Jnr Burger speaks volumes about your opinion billy. Shannon was fast, that's it. Darius is so far ahead of anything that nuffy was it is laughable

 

[Bring it home Knights]

Gids is not a specialist fullback. He has never been a specialist anything his whole career

Boyds first kick return of the game was exactly what Gids has never done at the back, straight and hard between players. Thats how good fullbacks return the ball

Boyd has underperformed for us this year no doubt but FMD if you think Gids has ever had a game as good as what Darius consistantly produced when he was at the Dragons you are dead set kidding yourself.

Comparing him to Jnr Burger speaks volumes about your opinion billy. Shannon was fast, that's it. Darius is so far ahead of anything that nuffy was it is laughable

Whilst I often agree with you JW, I can't on this occasion. I do believe Gidley is a specialist fullback. It is his best position for a reason.

You mentioned the run by Boyd at the start of the game, when he charged it back hard between 2 players. We must have been watching different games over the years, because I reckon I've seen Gidley do that 100's of times.

Back to Gidley not being a specialist fullback in your opinion. If he isn't, I don't know who is. He is safe under the high ball in the very, very large majority of cases. He brings the ball back with enthusiasm. His last ditched defence is arguably the best in the comp by a fullback. He often supports the play up the middle. He's constantly talking to the defensive line telling them where they should be. He's not slow and he offers a bit of ball playing, unlike a fullback such as Mcdonnell.

I personally believe it would be idiotic to move Boyd from fullback, but to say Gidley is not a specialist fullback, I find hard to comprehend.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Gids has learnt to be a good fullback because that was the position we badly needed filling and he took to it well. There is a reason he is used as a utility at rep level though, because he can adapt to a position quickly but he never quite fits the role fully

He gets far too involved at 1st reciever when playing at the back and when he does chime in to our backline he more often than not dies with the ball instead of acting as a link man to his outside backs

As for his kick returns, well mate if you remember him running the ball back straight and hard you must have a better memory than me. The runs he more often than not made that I remember were more sideways than straight mostly involving a dummy to his supporting winger.

Dont get me wrong here, I love the bloke but he is a victim of his own versatility sometimes

 

[RABK]

Yeh Gids is definitely not a specialist fullback. At his peak he was a very good one but he is no doubt a specialist utility far above any one position. He's played far better at rep level filling in at centre and hooker than he ever has playing fullback as well.

Ever since Boyd was first linked with us he has divided Knights fans and indeed this forum. I was so for his signing as i was always a massive fan of the class he displayed in been the dragons MVP during their 3 year reign at the top.

But to be fair, Boyd has not doen anywhere near enough to unite Knights fans in support of him hence the divide remains and irrashional and impatient Boyd to wing/five-eight/nsw cup, sack Boyd, Boyd is a terrible signing etc posts will continue.

I have complete faith his form will unite all in support of him sooner rather than later.

 

[Jono078]

I don't get any of the negative stuff about Boyd. The only fair thing to say is he isn't performing as expected.

But I don't think it's really in any of his control. He'll come good once the players around him come good and confident. The Boyd-Sau link always looks shaky with neither believing in each other or themselves.

I think Wes will improve things tenfold for Boyd and the whole team.

 

[IanG]

Just hope we don't take 'em too lightly despite the Panthers losing 30-0 2 weeks in a row. They'll be hungry to bounce back

 

[The Showstopper]

Ian if we don't beat Penrith then we are in serious trouble. They are terrible. Another of our great local products we should have kept according to some, leading them like a blind man without his golden retreiver. Gidley is not in Boyd's postcode for class. I have heard some serious turn it ups here but that will do me. I dare anyone here to walk up to the average punter and repeat the Gidley > Boyd statement in public. Go ahead. You will be laughed at deluxe. A Churchill medal winner FFS! Please. Also the incumbent test fullback albeit after Slater injured himself. Form is temporary but class is permanent.