You're a better team without Gallen.

[Feej]

 

[God-King Dean]

Gal just needs to chime into the attack occasionly, not try to run it every play.
He needs to be a decoy more.
We need a coach that wi stamp his authority on Gal.

This is the precise reason why re-signing Flanagan was a bad idea. Nothing will change. Too much respect for Paul.

As far as I'm concerned, the halves should have complete authority in the opposition half. So they are just as much to blame.

 

[wibble]

No Hayne no NSW win. Gallen got man of the series because Fulton has the biggest hard on for him. He should never have got it.

Agreed about Hayne. And if he plays last year, NSW win.

But Gallen was as good as anyone. All the newspaper "ratings" from (so called) journalists, plus the polls from fans agreed that Gallen was one of the best in all 3 matches.

All players have their detractors, and Gallen rubs plenty of people the wrong way. He also is not perfect, despite Feej's holy cow reference.

But he is seriously becoming under rated, as people with an axe to grind think he is "just good at hit ups" and not rep standard. He is clearly one of the best forwards in the game over at least 5 years, and selectors, man of match awarders, and rep coaches all seem to agree. They can't be that way off.

You could entertain an argument about how good he is among rep players, and I'd argue one of the best but others might not, but with heaps of people now saying he is not good enough even at club level, let alone rep level, just shows that people have agendas way out of whack with reality (or are legendary trollers, like God King Dean).

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

We do win a bit without him.

 

[Avenger]

It's Flanagan you should terminate not Gallen.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

On yeah.
Without doubt. He stinks. Got us into a whole heap of shit.

But we have him 3 more years

 

[wibble]

It's Flanagan you should terminate not Gallen.

Absolutely.

And it is a worry when your club captain seems to have too much influence (also a worry when not enough).

We need a coach who will keep the players in line (and Flanagan certainly can't do that, even if he is popular) and who can come up with something resembling an effective set play (we haven't seen one of those in years, I'd say).

 

[Avenger]

Seriously Gentlemen. I live in the area as I have stated on many occasions. You guys are an old style footy team the type that made me love this great game but FFS you need a new coach to take you out of the wilderness.

I sincerely think that when Gallen goes you need someone like Brian Smith to fix all aspects of the club from the ground up. He did it with Newcastle post Joey, he did it at the Roosters and he did it with us. He is a little eccentric but effective. I've met him, spoke to him at length and he is a very intriguing man with a great football brain.

 

[++ Gregos v.4]

Flanagan took the team to within minutes of a gf last year, so there's that.. Which is nice.

 

[Avenger]

Flanagan took the team to within minutes of a gf last year, so there's that.. Which is nice.

So did Chris Anderson. You want him back?

 

[wibble]

Flanagan took the team to within minutes of a gf last year, so there's that.. Which is nice.

He did (if by minutes you mean about 85 minutes).

And he has his good points.

Keeping players happy and attracting players seem to have been two of his strong points.

But there is no doubt the club has had some of its worst times ever with him at the helm (or with Stuart, who he was assistant to and seems to have inherited a lot of his flaws). And IF the club folds (and I hope it doesn't, but it is now a greater reality due to Flanagan than probably any time since I've supported the Sharks) he will rightly be seen as one of the all time villains in the history of the club.

I feel sorry for him too, since I doubt the culture that saw him very early on in his career, get blamed for lack of oversight was entirely of his making. I can imagine that Stuart, and the board, and probably my sacred cow (according to Feej...) Gallen (and all players, they are all a bit responsible for club culture, both good and bad) had their parts to play in that (plus our seemingly precarious financial situation at the time probably didn't help). I doubt Flanagan could just have completely overturned whatever systems and culture were already in place in the first few months of his career as top coach.

But the coach has to shoulder the blame, and his lack of authority and/or sense contributed, and either (or both) of these traits are not necessarily a good thing for our future, especially with the board we have, the media scrutiny we are under, and the sacred cow as captain.

 

[Feej]

Flanagan took the team to within minutes of a gf last year, so there's that.. Which is nice.

Caddyshack?

 

[Technique]

I don't think this is true, but what is true is that the difference between the team without Gallen and the team with him isn't anywhere near as big as it should be for a player of his calibre. He should be a much bigger net positive to the team than he is and it is absolutely a coaching issue that he isn't. Gallen is not a ballplayer and he is certainly not an edge runner.

 

[wibble]

I don't think this is true, but what is true is that the difference between the team without Gallen and the team with him isn't anywhere near as big as it should be for a player of his calibre. He should be a much bigger net positive to the team than he is and it is absolutely a coaching issue that he isn't. Gallen is not a ballplayer and he is certainly not an edge runner.

Pretty much.

Though it is not just the job of the coach to prevent too much play going to Gallen at the wrong moments, it is mostly his role.

Having had next to useless backs and very good forwards for years has not helped anyone have confidence in spreading the ball.

And the wide running from Gallen, and others (Graham a big offender also) and repetitive inside balls are not effective as often as they are done, but having very few creative or fast players, and no real set plays with players in motion contributes.

Again, all things a coach should be working on.

I wouldn't say Gallen can't run wide or ball play, just that it should rarely be the go to option (and it is too often). To fix this, we need better go to options, and halves/hookers who use them.

I don't blame Gallen for these lackings, his hard, wide running repetitively at the line is just the most effective of the ineffective options we have. I'm sure a better drilled/more dynamic team could better use Gallen as a great decoy (since he is a threat to the line) and actually get the ball to a fast, elusive back with some space.