Zac Lomax

[Crush]

Read my post. They had to rebuild and they took the tough path of blooding young juniors who will now be the backbone for the next 7 years - we let our talent go and sign Reggie also rans in their 30’s.

Both clubs missed the 8 - they are planning for long term success within their constraints and we are in job protection for the boys mode.

Wake up.

Can you imagine this place if the dragons won 2 spoons in a row like knights?
Rebuilding? I bloody well hope so because they couldn't get any worse!

 

[giboz71]

Can you imagine this place if the dragons won 2 spoons in a row like knights?
Rebuilding? I bloody well hope so because they couldn't get any worse!

Winning spoons isn’t great but coming 9th to 13th every year is almost as bad as it doesn’t warrant change. And when you come to think of it whether you come last or 9th, you’re still not playing finals footy.

The Knights are going to have a pretty fair team this year after their clean out and their coach is definitely smarter than ours.

 

[Crush]

Winning spoons isn’t great but coming 9th to 13th every year is almost as bad as it doesn’t warrant change. And when you come to think of it whether you come last or 9th, you’re still not playing finals footy.

The Knights are going to have a pretty fair team this year after their clean out and their coach is definitely smarter than ours.

100% disagree. Winning the spoon ia an absolute embarrassment. Its the ultimate insult. Winning 2 in a row is even worse. The Dragons have been mediocre for the last while and that sux. We want to be playing finals.
But I am not of the opinion that 16th is just like 9th or 11th. Knights will no doubt improve with their quality signings but I still think that statements like "we should do what the knights are doing and just blood youngsters" is ridiculous.
Besides a few positions in the backs we have an experienced, talented roster this year, far superior to the knights and I do not see knights and dragons in the same class, we will be miles ahead of them.
Knights are fricken wooden spoon losers and we are the mighty mediocre dragons! Big difference.

 

[giboz71]

100% disagree. Winning the spoon ia an absolute embarrassment. Its the ultimate insult. Winning 2 in a row is even worse. The Dragons have been mediocre for the last while and that sux. We want to be playing finals.
But I am not of the opinion that 16th is just like 9th or 11th. Knights will no doubt improve with their quality signings but I still think that statements like "we should do what the knights are doing and just blood youngsters" is ridiculous.
Besides a few positions in the backs we have an experienced, talented roster this year, far superior to the knights and I do not see knights and dragons in the same class, we will be miles ahead of them.
Knights are fricken wooden spoon losers and we are the mighty mediocre dragons! Big difference.

Agree to disagree.

Pearce, Watson, Guerra. SKD and Ponga are all quality signings. They’ll win plenty of games next year.

And btw, their wooden spoon team beat us last year and were unlucky not to beat us twice.

 

[Crush]

Agree to disagree.

Pearce, Watson, Guerra. SKD and Ponga are all quality signings. They’ll win plenty of games next year.

And btw, their wooden spoon team beat us last year and were unlucky not to beat us twice.

Yes I agree that they will win more games next year with some very good signings. But we will be much stronger.
And I understand that we lost a game to them last year and norrowly won the other one. And that was terribly embarrassing. But we won many many more games than they did and were much much better over the whole year. I would hate to be a knights supporter and am thankful that I go for the red v.
Cheers.

 

[muzby]

Can you imagine this place if the dragons won 2 spoons in a row like knights?
Rebuilding? I bloody well hope so because they couldn't get any worse!

I wouldn’t really call getting the wooden spoon ‘winning’ it..

 

[Dragonslayer]

With all the huge wraps of Lomax within the club and externally you would think that Millward would sign him up till longer than 2019, i know the rorters are very keen on him, so if he can extend Lafai, Aitken 3-4 each, do the same for Lomax ASAP...

This is one of the aspects I think Millward has correct. We apparently have some fat left in our salary cap for 2018 and I believe its there for this purpose.
If and when Lomax does get a 1st grade run and he blitzes it we have enough to keep those other filthy animals from getting in his ear. And this applies to upgrading his current contract 2018/2019 and adding in a further extension after that. The same principle applies to Dufty or our other juniors who really start to develop.
Its still amazes me that some still want this player or that player, burn our cap completely and then we're stuck in the same rumour cycle as Crighten for example.
A lot of water to go under the bridge as yet and having some room to manouever is a good thing IMO

 

[watatank]

Of course there is going to be interest but I don't see any cause for concern at the moment when he's signed for two more years. I think locking Lomax up long term will be the eventual plan and I think that will happen once he actually plays FG (why would he agree to a further extension before playing FG?). Obviously if he leaves it would be a disaster like losing Jack Bird when we did but there's no real indications this is the case.

 

[giboz71]

Of course there is going to be interest but I don't see any cause for concern at the moment when he's signed for two more years. I think locking Lomax up long term will be the eventual plan and I think that will happen once he actually plays FG (why would he agree to a further extension before playing FG?). Obviously if he leaves it would be a disaster like losing Jack Bird when we did but there's no real indications this is the case.

I keep thinking that when Bird left due to a lack of opportunities in FG, our starting centres that year were Dane Nielsen and Dylan Farrell. A year later he played Origin and won a comp. FMD.

My worse nightmare is that history repeats itself and Lomax leaves as Mary keeps insisting on playing guys like Nighty, Nene and Lafai in FG.

 

[Reddragon]

I keep thinking that when Bird left due to a lack of opportunities in FG, our starting centres that year were Dane Nielsen and Dylan Farrell. A year later he played Origin and won a comp. FMD.

My worse nightmare is that history repeats itself and Lomax leaves as Mary keeps insisting on playing guys like Nighty, Nene and Lafai in FG.

And Aitkin

 

[Crush]

I wouldn’t really call getting the wooden spoon ‘winning’ it..

Do you just scroll through the posts looking for any reason to make a little criticism/joke?
It's really boring Muzby. Like an uncle at a BBQ that everyone thinks is a dick...

 

[Drag Queen]

And Aitkin

In all fairness Aitken has had a horror year with hamstring and subluxation to his shoulder twice. Only 22 to boot. Hope his surgery went well tbh. I'm not going to write him off just yet, although I feel the writing could well be on the wall. In the meantime I'll remain hopeful that he doesn't get turfed.

 

[slippery5]

Are we still entertaining Nightingale on one wing?

Depends if your asking McNoidea, then the answer is yes !!!!!

 

[Overseas dragon]

Do you just scroll through the posts looking for any reason to make a little criticism/joke?
It's really boring Muzby. Like an uncle at a BBQ that everyone thinks is a dick...

Sure is and that classic about orange palms needs to be filed in the.recycled bin .its well past its used by date

 

[red rocket]

In all fairness Aitken has had a horror year with hamstring and subluxation to his shoulder twice. Only 22 to boot. Hope his surgery went well tbh. I'm not going to write him off just yet, although I feel the writing could well be on the wall. In the meantime I'll remain hopeful that he doesn't get turfed.

We win more than we lose when Aitken plays if he stays sound he will prove all the knockers wrong also he is a stronger player on the other side of the park but that is up to Mary.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Aitken is probably the one under most threat of losing his place in 1st grade (besides Nighty) mainly due to not only his defensive errors but more to do with the serious long term effects of his injuries. I do really hope the off season has given time for full recovery and we see the best of him next year.
However, i will say that playing the "his only young" card is wearing very very thin. Yes he's only 22, but both Nene and McInnes are "only" 23. So when does the line in the sand get drawn?

 

[BennyV]

Aitken is probably the one under most threat of losing his place in 1st grade (besides Nighty) mainly due to not only his defensive errors but more to do with the serious long term effects of his injuries. I do really hope the off season has given time for full recovery and we see the best of him next year.
However, i will say that playing the "his only young" card is wearing very very thin. Yes he's only 22, but both Nene and McInnes are "only" 23. So when does the line in the sand get drawn?

Indeed, that 'only 22' year old has over 50 games of first grade experience and hasn't shown a huge amount of improvement in certain core skills between his first and his last. Granted, a chunk of this can be put down to coaching but the decision to extend him long term seems a strange one...

 

[Drag Queen]

Aitken is probably the one under most threat of losing his place in 1st grade (besides Nighty) mainly due to not only his defensive errors but more to do with the serious long term effects of his injuries. I do really hope the off season has given time for full recovery and we see the best of him next year.
However, i will say that playing the "his only young" card is wearing very very thin. Yes he's only 22, but both Nene and McInnes are "only" 23. So when does the line in the sand get drawn?

You're right to say I shouldn't use the age card. I've used it to defend Nene at times too. When Euan came back to play after only four weeks of shoulder rehab, I strongly questioned that decision. I guess I'm a bit of a soft touch when it comes to the physical and mental wellbeing of our younger players. I'm also a realist too, and think the writing may well be on the wall.

 

[possm]

100% disagree. Winning the spoon ia an absolute embarrassment. Its the ultimate insult. Winning 2 in a row is even worse. The Dragons have been mediocre for the last while and that sux. We want to be playing finals.
But I am not of the opinion that 16th is just like 9th or 11th. Knights will no doubt improve with their quality signings but I still think that statements like "we should do what the knights are doing and just blood youngsters" is ridiculous.
Besides a few positions in the backs we have an experienced, talented roster this year, far superior to the knights and I do not see knights and dragons in the same class, we will be miles ahead of them.
Knights are fricken wooden spoon losers and we are the mighty mediocre dragons! Big difference.

Aitken is probably the one under most threat of losing his place in 1st grade (besides Nighty) mainly due to not only his defensive errors but more to do with the serious long term effects of his injuries. I do really hope the off season has given time for full recovery and we see the best of him next year.
However, i will say that playing the "his only young" card is wearing very very thin. Yes he's only 22, but both Nene and McInnes are "only" 23. So when does the line in the sand get drawn?

I don't understand the reasoning behind some of the decisions made regarding junior development at the Dragons. For me:
1. Dufty, Field and Nicholls should be considered and trained / developed as halves - size issues.
2. Lomax, Garrick, Herbert, Johns and Pereira should be developed as fullback/wingers - size and speed.
3. Aitken, Lafai, Mann and Macdonald should be receiving intensive training to improve their game as centres - competition in the centres.

In this way we would have both the required speed and depth we need in our backline. Just pick on form - at this moment in the off-season, Lomax leads the race for fullback And so who for the centres and who for the wing spots. I think at this stage Nicholls would make the ideal utility as he can play hooker or in the halves.

 

[Drag Queen]

I don't understand the reasoning behind some of the decisions made regarding junior development at the Dragons. For me:
1. Dufty, Field and Nicholls should be considered and trained / developed as halves - size issues.
2. Lomax, Garrick, Herbert, Johns and Pereira should be developed as fullback/wingers - size and speed.
3. Aitken, Lafai, Mann and Macdonald should be receiving intensive training to improve their game as centres - competition in the centres.

In this way we would have both the required speed and depth we need in our backline. Just pick on form - at this moment in the off-season, Lomax leads the race for fullback And so who for the centres and who for the wing spots. I think at this stage Nicholls would make the ideal utility as he can play hooker or in the halves.

Problem is we have our halves sorted so to speak Possm. I've got complete confidence with Widdop and Hunt. McIness has been locked in for No9, not so sure. Lomax wanting the No 1 jersey doesn't leave much room for Field or Dufty tbh. He could be our Tommy Turbo. Just conjecture at this point in time. Nicholls has proven to be a fairly good half and has some size about him

I don't understand the reasoning behind some of the decisions made regarding junior development at the Dragons. For me:
1. Dufty, Field and Nicholls should be considered and trained / developed as halves - size issues.
2. Lomax, Garrick, Herbert, Johns and Pereira should be developed as fullback/wingers - size and speed.
3. Aitken, Lafai, Mann and Macdonald should be receiving intensive training to improve their game as centres - competition in the centres.

In this way we would have both the required speed and depth we need in our backline. Just pick on form - at this moment in the off-season, Lomax leads the race for fullback And so who for the centres and who for the wing spots. I think at this stage Nicholls would make the ideal utility as he can play hooker or in the halves.