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Zappia Stands Down

SirShire

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Since when did Zappia's effectiveness as a CEO have anything to do with the situation?

TZ is in the same position as Greg Bird was. Everyone knew he was excellent at what he did, but he put himself in an incredibly, almost unbelievably fragile position, and rightly fell on his sword. It is almost laughable to say that he should have known better... but hey he operates with his own style and he has come a cropper.
 

Since 73

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He may well have been a wiz at operating a football club, from what I saw he was pretty sharp in that regard. Still, it can't be denied from this saga that he lacked the social skill set to remain in a management position at the club, and I say that in two regards: he clearly was unable to maintain a professional employment relationship with his staff (football staff and arguably playing staff - see Seymour) and he was a hapless, limp performer in the media.

We probably could have escaped with keeping him given we've already been dragged through the mud, but why keep the target planted firmly on your backside and let them keep on sniping at him from afar? What else could they dredge up? Of more concern, how could he ever look at the next Shark who lays a finger inappropriately on a girl and stand him down/fine him? He couldn't

For mine, the focus turns to finding an appropriate replacement. Not a mug ex-footballer. Not a relative of some hack whose crowning achievement was spending two decades swilling piss in the Steve Rogers bar. A go getter with a clean slate. Or Gow (the jersey cutting incident shouldn't be held against him) - a man with passion, know-how and contacts.

Hall is obviously as cunning as a sh*thouse rat, but Zappia was clearly a sleaze and from the way he has tried to bury the whole incident with payoff and dodgy documentation. I, for one, am happy to see the arse end of him.

Covers it on every front SS.

Bloke at the the local high school could be an absolute wizz at getting kids grades up but if he's looking up skirts he has to go.

Zaps is talking to sponsors and potential sponsors.
Doesn't matter what a good operator he is in that area if he can't keep his nose clean in dealings in other areas it will potentially affect those discussions.

Club cannot afford that ever - let alone now.

However, he has until thursday to present the other side.
Club can't afford
 

sportive cupid

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Since when did Zappia's effectiveness as a CEO have anything to do with the situation?

TZ is in the same position as Greg Bird was. Everyone knew he was excellent at what he did, but he put himself in an incredibly, almost unbelievably fragile position, and rightly fell on his sword. It is almost laughable to say that he should have known better... but hey he operates with his own style and he has come a cropper.
He is not in the same position as Greg Bird.He is being challenged on what he does.He is in fact the CEO-Cheif Executive Officer.That means his role is to manage the employees of his organisation.

He is being accused of acting inappropriately as a manager.
Very different to Greg Bird.
 

SirShire

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you guys are missing one things.
What if this is a huge stitch up?

Certainly possible. I said last night that the whole tape should be made available to hear the context of the conversation. I think the 'spank me' remark was made in jest. I agree that Hall's credibility is highly questionable.

But, the reality is:
(1) The circumstances leave very little to the imagination. Him hitting her is not in dispute. They were in the middle of a workplace conciliation and he was fooling around. Honestly, if he shows such a lack of concentration & application, and a general disregard to the task at hand when he is dealing with staff, what confidence does it give you when he met with LG? With the next potential major sponsor? With land developers? With the NRL?

(2) The moment the CA was signed, that should of been it. But the club is weak in legally standing up for itself, and killing stories.

(3) He hasn't done enough to dispute the allegations. He never did it with the Johns affair, and he hasn't done it for himself. In regards to every 'exclusive' story that goes the print, the journos always consult the parties involved. It doesn't change the slant of the article, but it changes it nonetheless. Even Magnay does it, and yet she stated in her articles that Zappia didn't respond or dodged the question. Zappia knew before yesterday that 7 would be going forward with that story.

He knew it was simmering away but failed to nip it in the bud. His poor performance ensured that the smoke never truly cleared and he ultimately left himself wide open for attack.

That said, it is important to note the supposed existence of a CA. On past events of legal nature with out club, this quite simply isn't worth the paper it is written on. I don't think this club has succeeded in, nor enforced any legal dispute in its 5 decades of existence. Fighting it would be a fruitless move at this stage, and Hall knows that this club would never enforce it legally. Especially with channel seven in her corner now.
 
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SirShire

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He is not in the same position as Greg Bird.He is being challenged on what he does.He is in fact the CEO-Cheif Executive Officer.That means his role is to manage the employees of his organisation.

He is being accused of acting inappropriately as a manager.
Very different to Greg Bird.

Re-read my post.

I didn't compare their roles. I said that his effectiveness in his role is of no significance.

I.e. Just because Zappia is a half decent CEO, does not change the fact he has acted inappropriately and should be forced to face the consequences.

I.e. Just because Bird is an outstanding player and vital cog in the team does not change the fact that he fugged up majorly and must live by the consequences of those actions.
 

sportive cupid

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I didnt mean position as in role.I meant position as in predicament.
I maintain that this guy has in fact fallen down in his job if this is correct.Greg Bird acted foolishly in his general life.That's the difference I see here.
 

spider

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I think the 'spank me' remark was made in jest.
The article said there was a witness present at that meeting, therefore it was in some form or capacity of a HR hearing. You dont jest in that situation, and you should know better if you are the CEO.

I agree that Hall's credibility is highly questionable.
Maybe so, but at the end of the day she is telling her side of the story - zappia isnt.

She suffered the injury - zappia didnt.

Why was she paid $20?
 

SirShire

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The article said there was a witness present at that meeting, therefore it was in some form or capacity of a HR hearing. You dont jest in that situation, and you should know better if you are the CEO.

I know. I've said previously that the obvious issue is horseplay in a workplace conciliation, and it simply isn't on. But for those inferring sexual harassment on this comment, it seemed to be a poor attempt at humour, a throw away line that was not thought through. The whole tone of the conversation seemed to be of a casual discussion of the issue - there was nothing authoritative about it.

Regardless, it makes little difference. He should have known what type of behaviour is needed in the workplace.


Maybe so, but at the end of the day she is telling her side of the story - zappia isnt.

She suffered the injury - zappia didnt.

Why was she paid $20?

Agreed. Everything is against him and I've stated a couple of times his downfall is a direct result of his failure to respond.

However, she is a low individual for accepting the pay out and allegedly signing the C.A., and then seeking to hit pay dirt again by crowing to the TV stations.
 

spider

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why did he stand down and seek legal advice though reefy

smoke, fire ------> he is in some sh*t

i believe he is denying the manner in which it was edited and played
 

SirShire

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But Reefy, that is the problem.

A blanket denial of every Hall says has achieved nothing so far and will achieve nothing in his plight to save his career going forward. It will barely rate a mention and will do nothing to limit the blows of 7/Magnay's crusade.

He has consistently failed to refute individual allegations and claims. A characteristic of the man has been to say, yes I was involved in an incident with Hall that gave her a black eye, but I didn't hit her.

Specifics would go a long way in saving himself. The email chain won't be hard to establish so he would have to be wary in all of this.
 

blacktip-reefy

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how does he get specifics? Our useless club wont support him. None of the staff will be allowed to make comment that support him. None of the staff will be able to tell the media what sort of low life person jenny hall really is. Nobody will be able to tell he media she was allegedly in an office laughing with Zappia about the accident.
 

redback

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If there is a female involved, then you can be sure that Blackcreep will take the male's side. No matter what.

I watched a great documentary on woman haters on the CI channel on Foxtel a few months back. Pretty scary that we have one on this forum.
 

SirShire

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I can't see why not. The media, after joining together to bring down Matty Johns, happily aired claims which damaged the credibility of Kiwi Claire and the events in the hotel room.

If Zappia believes that what has been reported isn't accurate, then he'd be doing well to set the record straight.
 

Frenzy.

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how does he get specifics? Our useless club wont support him. None of the staff will be allowed to make comment that support him. None of the staff will be able to tell the media what sort of low life person jenny hall really is. Nobody will be able to tell he media she was allegedly in an office laughing with Zappia about the accident.

Who, in the club is useless now?
 

spider

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how does he get specifics? Our useless club wont support him. None of the staff will be allowed to make comment that support him. None of the staff will be able to tell the media what sort of low life person jenny hall really is. Nobody will be able to tell he media she was allegedly in an office laughing with Zappia about the accident.
Reports tonight suggest a female employee is to be questioned on further incidents and behaviour in the work place regarding zappia

it isnt looking good for zapps

and why would he stand down? he is falling on his sword by the looks of it - but if these are lies then fight the allegations, dont quit your job
 

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