2017 Crowd Watch

[papabear]

The Sydney tag as the heartland of rugby league has withered away for a long time. Gus Gould declared about 7 years ago that Brisbane is now the capital of rugby league.

Sydney is the heartland of rugby league whilst ever it has 9 clubs 8 of which running juniors leagues.

Until brisbane has at least two teams it can go jump up its own corporate arse and f**k off and accept the fact that it devoured its own brl to join the nswrl which was born and grew in sydney.

 

[papabear]

Your ignorance and lack of understanding of what longstanding clubs give to a competition is so wrong. When a club is decimated / almagamated / relegated it does immense damage to that area and the perception of the code by the general public. Given that the game is confronted with other codes gaining an advantage from this low regard/perception of the NRL your stance is not good for rugby league. I have no issue with additional clubs and that should be the stance 'additional clubs' not dilluting established markets even if they may be dormant fans. They are still fans! Instead of the game self imploding look to genuinely expand ! The positivity surrounding additional clubs discourse far outways regressive/ negative stances associated with almagamating, relocation and relegation.

relocating doesnt have to be negative.

Lots of NFL franchises actively want to relocate their teams to more profitable locations, the problem we have is our ownership structures tend to be embedded to the leagues club so they dont need the football department to be profitable.

See easts for example.

 

[Stallion]

Norths didnt get culled for melbourne.

Perth did.

Norths got culled out of stupidity, the northern eagles should have either been made to work or kicked out of the comp as a joint entity into nsw cup as such, not just rebranded back into the manly sea eagles.

Norths didnt get culled for melbourne.

Perth did.

Norths got culled out of stupidity, the northern eagles should have either been made to work or kicked out of the comp as a joint entity into nsw cup as such, not just rebranded back into the manly sea eagles.

Northern eagles should never have happened. That happened due to ARL being arse f**ked by Superleague in amazingly and ineptly agreeing to cutting to 14 teams in the so called 'peace deal' The seeds to the decline of rugby league. It planted doubt and lack.of confidence in the casual fan/general public like no other decision in the game has ever done beforehand.

 

[Stallion]

relocating doesnt have to be negative.

Lots of NFL franchises actively want to relocate their teams to more profitable locations, the problem we have is our ownership structures tend to be embedded to the leagues club so they dont need the football department to be profitable.

See easts for example.

Different scenario. The tyrrany of distance and lack of population is the major factor of difference with a place like the US. Maybe one day into the future but definitely not now.

 

[Raiderdave]

Im all for supporting our club and our team.

But being arrogant about our club we should leave to the other clubs (broncos etc)

wanna bag us
ill bag back

fancy a Sharks fan having a crack about anything to anyone
they're down there with the Titans as the smallest club in the comp lol

 

[Raiderdave]

If the Govt,s bring in higher poker machine taxes ,that'll put the cat among your pigeons.

it won't
we're covered with our diverse business interests

now
when the NRL looks seriously at Sydney decentralisation
thats a cat dining on Pigeon pie right there with your mob squarely under the pastry : )

 

[Stallion]

it won't
we're covered with our diverse business interests

now
when the NRL looks seriously at Sydney decentralisation
thats a cat dining on Pigeon pie right there with your mob squarely under the pastry : )

Your stance is very negative and no good for rugby league.

 

[Perth Red]

Your ignorance and lack of understanding of what longstanding clubs give to a competition is so wrong. When a club is decimated / almagamated / relegated it does immense damage to that area and the perception of the code by the general public. Given that the game is confronted with other codes gaining an advantage from this low regard/perception of the NRL your stance is not good for rugby league. I have no issue with additional clubs and that should be the stance 'additional clubs' not dilluting established markets even if they may be dormant fans. They are still fans! Instead of the game self imploding look to genuinely expand ! The positivity surrounding additional clubs discourse far outways regressive/ negative stances associated with almagamating, relocation and relegation.

NRL's never tried relocation so you can't say what the impact would be. Seems to have gone alright for afl. Nrl is pretty clear that we are unlikely to go beyond a 16 club comp due to alleged player depth and money per club so somethings got to give if you want to grow the game.

 

[papabear]

wanna bag us
ill bag back

fancy a Sharks fan having a crack about anything to anyone
they're down there with the Titans as the smallest club in the comp lol

Last years loss to the sharks stung me as much as anyone, but they can have there year for now.....they only got about two more weeks.

 

[Stallion]

NRL's never tried relocation so you can't say what the impact would be. Seems to have gone alright for afl. Nrl is pretty clear that we are unlikely to go beyond a 16 club comp due to alleged player depth and money per club so somethings got to give if you want to grow the game.

Once again the NRL like most things rugby league are not doing the right thing. As a former player who was a trialist I know the depth is out there. I made it to the final 30 of a Presidents cup squad many years ago and the players that were cut b4 me were freaks! The talent is there. The superleague war showed that. Its the inneptness of NRL development and leadership that comes with such misleading and negative dribble for reasons against genuine expansion and for that matter consolidation with respects to areas like North Sydney /Gosford and Brisbane. Do u seriously think that if additional clubs were publicly planned that young aspiring footballer ranks would not want to increase in number?

 

[papabear]

Northern eagles should never have happened. That happened due to ARL being arse f**ked by Superleague in amazingly and ineptly agreeing to cutting to 14 teams in the so called 'peace deal' The seeds to the decline of rugby league. It planted doubt and lack.of confidence in the casual fan/general public like no other decision in the game has ever done beforehand.

Norths didnt force manlys greed into the merger.

Manly will always act in manlys best interest even if its erodes rugby league every where else.

One day though the greed and disinterest in acting in good faith will come back to hurt manly.

 

[papabear]

Once again the NRL like most things rugby league are not doing the right thing. As a former player who was a trialist I know the depth is out there. I made it to the final 30 of a Presidents cup squad many years ago and the players that were cut b4 me were freaks! The talent is there. The superleague war showed that. Its the inneptness of NRL development and leadership that comes with such misleading and negative dribble for reasons against genuine expansion and for that matter consolidation with respects to areas like North Sydney /Gosford and Brisbane. Do u seriously think that if additional clubs were publicly planned that young aspiring footballer ranks would not want to increase in number?

I think its more the tv money then the player depth.

 

[Stallion]

Norths didnt force manlys greed into the merger.

Manly will always act in manlys best interest even if its erodes rugby league every where else.

One day though the greed and disinterest in acting in good faith will come back to hurt manly.

Missing the point. The whole scenario should not have happened. It was the so called peace deal which brought such a ridiculous situation. The superleague people got their way and started the rot of rugby league in Sydney. It was the agreement that the ARL was arse f**ked by that destroyed such iconic clubs. The disrespect still astounds me to this day!

 

[BlueandGold]

Parra vs Cows just on 17k Pax now.

Not sure if that includes ANZ stadium members.

 

[Perth Red]

Missing the point. The whole scenario should not have happened. It was the so called peace deal which brought such a ridiculous situation. The superleague people got their way and started the rot of rugby league in Sydney. It was the agreement that the ARL was arse f**ked by that destroyed such iconic clubs. The disrespect still astounds me to this day!

So you would rather have seen a unsustainable 22 team comp or an even less national one with no Melbourne or Auckland to save a couple of Sydney clubs stand alone existence?

1997 we had 22 clubs and only 1 you would be happy to lose (hunter mariners). So how do you get 21 clubs down to an affordable amount? Not to mention have space for Melbourne.
The game gave up on a national footprint and some of Sydney had to be reduced as well is the sad reality of the time. ARL had far more significant culling plans before SL intervened if the rumours are to be believed.

Sydney lost one club, the game lost Perth, Adelaide, SQ and Gold Coast setting it back decades.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Absolute crap. I know plenty of people that dont follow rugby league anymore that were fans of North Sydney and Balmain. Your ignorance is consistent with your lack of feel for the game and its cultural significance. The cultural significance and relevance is the main aspect you ignore in your scant regard for longstanding clubs in Sydney .

I dunno. We annihilated the BRL in 1987 and RL seems to be going pretty well in Brissy.

The only problem there now is that there arent enough teams in Brisbane, but thats mostly because there are too many in Sydney....

 

[Stallion]

So you would rather have seen a unsustainable 22 team comp or an even less national one with no Melbourne or Auckland to save a couple of Sydney clubs stand alone existence?

1997 we had 22 clubs and only 1 you would be happy to lose (hunter mariners). So how do you get 21 clubs down to an affordable amount? Not to mention have space for Melbourne.
The game gave up on a national footprint and some of Sydney had to be reduced as well is the sad reality of the time. ARL had far more significant culling plans before SL intervened if the rumours are to be believed.

Sydney lost one club, the game lost Perth, Adelaide, SQ and Gold Coast setting it back decades.

Unsustainable? The 20 team national competition was progressing very well prior to the superleague fiasco. Something your ignorance and disrespect of longstanding clubs has not worked out. The almagamating of of clubs must be seen as a defeatist tact as the public gains a perception that their is simething wrong. They ask "why is this happening? Whats wrong with the Balmain Tigers etc? You just dont get it to you!? The game was going gangbusters in 1995 and then out of the blue the ridiculous superleague fiasco financed by a rugby union loving media mogule arrives and splits this great code in Australia! Go figure?

 

[Raiderdave]

Your stance is very negative and no good for rugby league.

hahahahaha
yours is nut job central stuff & will ensure rugby league dies

according to you we need more sydney sides .. I mean .. WTF ??

 

[Raiderdave]

Unsustainable? The 20 team national competition was progressing very well prior to the superleague fiasco. Something your ignorance and disrespect of longstanding clubs has not worked out. The almagamating of of clubs must be seen as a defeatist tact as the public gains a perception that their is simething wrong. They ask "why is this happening? Whats wrong with the Balmain Tigers etc? You just dont get it to you!? The game was going gangbusters in 1995 and then out of the blue the ridiculous superleague fiasco financed by a rugby union loving media mogule arrives and splits this great code in Australia! Go figure?

the 20 team comp was an utter joke
mediocrity of the highest order ... take off your rose coloured glasses & join us in reality pal

 

[Stallion]

hahahahaha
yours is nut job central stuff & will ensure rugby league dies

according to you we need more sydney sides .. I mean .. WTF ??

The core of this great competition lies in the Sydney metropolitan area. The tyrrany of distance (Australia wide)and sparse population has the game vulnerable when isolated clubs have poor periods. The largest city in Australasia with the best football code should be respected. Im suggesting that probably ten top flight NRL clubs in the Metropolitan area be maintained with a promotion and relegation set up for the other aspiring Sydney metropolitan clubs. This will entrech the game and interest/relevance in this geographically diverse and highly populated area. A twenty club competition should be happening now however spoilers and people making decisions not in the interest of rugby league development and cultural relevance are thwarting genuine progress of the game.