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Bro Bear said:I would prefer to see the North Sydney Bears back in the comp at NSO or Gosford.
Yeah, simply not enough Sydney teams in the National competition at the moment.
Bro Bear said:I would prefer to see the North Sydney Bears back in the comp at NSO or Gosford.
Yep , that's true but the Bulldogs are the Brethren of the NRL if you look back into their history.t-ba said:Slight Threadomancy. 'Brothers' is a moniker typically heavily associated with Catholicism. Which in itself can raise a number of issues.
I honestly can't see a scenario where the second Brisbane team doesn't play out of Lang Park. It's by far the best stadium Brisbane, very central and has plenty of public transport access from everywhere.parrawentyfan said:Brisbane does deserve and need a second RL team, however with the admission of the Titans I think this should be lower down on the priority list. The Titans need some time to cement themselves and their fan base.
I don't know what could be made of QSAC stadium but for some reason the crowds flocked there.... If Brisbane ever wants another venue to rival Suncorp, they should redevelop that site and give it a decent rail station/access. I understand it is a poor venue to watch RL at the moment, but the crowds the Broncs had there suggest RL could be a winner in the area. Who knows if Bris will need a 70-80k rect stad 10 years in the future? For any new club to forge a proper identity I think it would have to base itself away from Suncorp - so it didn't just look like a 'Boncos Mach 2'. It pains me to say this as I love Suncorp and know it means alot to Qld RL.
parrawentyfan said:I agree that if a 2nd Bris team was given the go now, then Lang Park would have to be the venue. Just thinking as to what could be the scenario in 15-20yrs if that is the timeframe for another Brisbane side. I also believe Brisbane is WAY ahead of its population in terms of its presence as a sporting capital. Thus ahead of Adelaide, Perth etc. As far as events and attendances go it is almost on par with Sydney and Melbourne. If Lang Park was 80k it would be full for Origin, Grand Finals, World Cup etc... Could it be obsolete in 20 years???? Look at how long the SFS lasted as the main venue, was it 11 years?
It's interesting to see the huge drop off in attendances at QSAC. It's obviously a sh*t venue to watch RL at. In 20 years however it wouldn't necessarily be the same venue. Look at how Lang Park and the Gabba were changed.
parrawentyfan said:Not coming from, or ever having been to Qld of course it's hard to say of course. Just feel there is so much potential there. How would Qlders feel about the Crushers being reborn? They could represent the unrepresented Qld Cup sides of SE Qld such. They would not want neccessarily to be associated with 'Brisbane'.
In-goal said:I think that long term 10+ years the NRL should look to 20 clubs. The 2 confrence system has alot of merits especialy in a competition were balance is crucial.
I would think two, ten team leagues that don't have cross over matches to the finals. To try and aliviate the problem of clubs not facing off, perhaps the introduction of a cup competition that runs throughout the season drawing clubs from opposite leagues.
To ensure long term viability, it would have to take around 10 years to grow the league another 4 franchises/clubs. Stating were the clubs would come from or the makeup of the league would be the most difficult, however Brisbane can house another club it madness that after all these years they still only have one.
Just as a model i'll type up my preffered comp.
Conf 1: Conf 2:
Parra Souths
Canterbury Easts
Brisbane St.G/Ill
Melbourne Manly
GC Cronulla
Penrith Warriors
NQld Newcastle
Perth Bris 2
Canberra NZ 2
I think that's good balance a achievable in time
My reasoning is that Sydneysiders love watching their own teams and that it'd generate more interest in the comp if most of the season consisted of derbies.Titanic said:Also if you put all the Sydney teams in one conference then they would be broke in a year - not enough cash to go around because they couldn't compete for the corporate dollar against one-city teams while splitting an already fragile fan-base.
Lockyer4President! said:My reasoning is that Sydneysiders love watching their own teams and that it'd generate more interest in the comp if most of the season consisted of derbies.
XXXX Cap said:Yeah, simply not enough Sydney teams in the National competition at the moment.
Adelaide and a 5th QLD team would both be successful but now we're just getting ahead of ourselves.mightybears said:They'd be a non Sydney team, with a heritage and tradition that drags the Bears faithful along, in the area of Australia that is the 2nd fastest growing re population. Prime league territory as well-within travelling distance of Sydney and Newc for home and away fans.
CC Bears, Perth, 2nd NZ, 3rd SE Qld are the only 4 markets that have, the crowd support/popluation & infrastructure/corporate support big and small to make it financially sucessful long term.
In-goal said:I think the NRL would be silly to go past 20 clubs, but if they develop the game in other countries with proceeds from the WC then in 10-15 years the player pool will increase.
Originally Posted by In-goal
I think the NRL would be silly to go past 20 clubs, but if they develop the game in other countries with proceeds from the WC then in 10-15 years the player pool will increase.
But the question is will the World Cup make a profit.
Country footy needs cash injected into badly before it dies and before they start investing in other countries.