AMNRL Website Revamp Coming Soon

[Choo Choo]

I've spoke to many League and Club officials. They're largely Niu-Bots who'd be out of the game if the AMNRL went professional. There's only a few who merit their positions.

Your accusation that I have no knowledge of League in America is wrong, but lets theorise, if it were true, that goes would go against me how? If anything the notion would play right into my argument. In depth info pertaining to League in America, the AMNRL and NRLUS should be freely available online. If it isn't, who's fault is this? It would be yours.

You, the rest of the club and league officials and largest to blame is again your good friend Niu.

Sure, there's probably a few holes in my argument, but that fault doesn't lie with me. I shouldn't be expected to fly half way around the world to inspect your stadia(if you can call it that).

At the end of the day League in America is progressing too slowly and it's Nius fault. Complacent managers like yourself also need to take some of the weight for this. What is your team CEO doing, tell me. What are you doing?

Complaining about the local politicians won't help. Attacking me hasn't helped you.

Now if you want actual help then all you'd need to do is ask, genuinely. Trying to bait me up while rhetorically asking what I've done or what I'd be capable of doing won't do much.

Want a website? I can do that. I've emailed your hotmail contact(club email) with that very offer. Infact I've emailed every single team, believe it or not. Not a single club got back to me on my offer, despite the fact I wanted nothing in return. And this is the sort of complacency that annoys me. Because you're sat here telling me I'm wrong in my views, yet every experience I've had pertaining to the AMNRL is what's moulded my opinions. I didn't just wake up one morning disliking Niu and the rest of the guys in charge of the game without reason.

There's many things people would be willing to do if you stopped with the rhetoric, personal attacks and brainwashed defence of the state of League in America.

I own thousands of pounds worth of marketing software that could increase your online presence over night. Social network account creation, article submissions, pinging software etc.

Want more sponsors, advertisers? I could quite easily get my hand on a database of 100,000 American business contacts, email and physical. Even in general or pertaining to specific regions. Mass emails? Can get the software to send them.

Fairfax have a tourism website, why isn't Rugby League on there as one of the few League teams in America? Even if it's gimmiky I'd be shocked if they wouldn't give you a mention.

And it's this sort of grass roots marketing and promotional stuff that simply isn't being done under the current power structure. Niu making up stuff about the NRLUS every few years is hardly constructive in the longer term.

If I'm wrong tell me I'm wrong, but tell me why and tell me what is being done. Nobodies been able to tell me what's being done. Yet we're expected to accept the claims without any visible evidence.

Well, its finally clear to me that no matter what OBJECTIVE evidence we provide, Rugby Highlights is going to provide a lengthy diatribe as to why everyone in the USA is wrong and he is right. While I do appreciate the healthy debate, I now see that this particular discussion is now pointless. Fairfax Eagles club adminstrators are satisfied with our progress to date and make no excuses to anyone about anything.

I think we can easily clear up this matter. I hereby nominate Rugby Highlights as the new Grand Administrator for all things Rugby League in the United States. Here's the supporting arguement: According to his posts here, he is capable of securing stadiums (my guess is his dad is going to design and build one for each team; I want a big maroon and grey one) and sponsorships and websites for each team the likes of which we have never seen in the USA.

You're a funny guy Rugby Highlights.

p.s. a diatribe is a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism and the nomination is joke.

PEACE!

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Well, its finally clear to me that no matter what OBJECTIVE evidence we provide, Rugby Highlights is going to provide a lengthy diatribe as to why everyone in the USA is wrong and he is right. While I do appreciate the healthy debate, I now see that this particular discussion is now pointless. Fairfax Eagles club adminstrators are satisfied with our progress to date and make no excuses to anyone about anything.

I think we can easily clear up this matter. I hereby nominate Rugby Highlights as the new Grand Administrator for all things Rugby League in the United States. Here's the supporting arguement: According to his posts here, he is capable of securing stadiums (my guess is his dad is going to design and build one for each team; I want a big maroon and grey one) and sponsorships and websites for each team the likes of which we have never seen in the USA.

You're a funny guy Rugby Highlights.

p.s. a diatribe is a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism and the nomination is joke.

PEACE!

I'm not talking about securing stadiums, I'm talking about securing land and building stadia. Or are your politicians going to prevent you from building stands and helping the local community too? :lol::lol: I can just hear it now, "No, we will not allow you to better this venue and the community with your own money!"

Your loss. Carry on with your 1990s website design and non-existant marketing, scratching your arses wondering why politicians won't take you seriously and sponsors don't want to be assosciated with you.

This, ladies and gentleman, is why the AMNRL is failing to make progress. Rather than accept help from people with an idea of what they're doing, Coach here continues with the ad-hominem attacks, fingers in the ears, ignoring opportunities presented to him.

Youve probably spent more time argueing with me than your club has spent time marketing in the last 6 months. See, hardy har; I crack jokes too.

 

[MR KNIGHT]

Obviously I meant the Tomahawks.

I run my own business and my own projects. I know all about getting sponsors and investors. I'm a marketer, it's kind of my field. That's my job.:lol:

And you miss the point, I don't claim to have the power to bring over big players and big coaches. What I'm suggesting is if the game was marketed and run properly, it would be at a stage where coaches would consider it a viable position to take up.

Instead most of them are out in Australia coaching u10s:crazy:

 

[MR KNIGHT]

PSF

Everything in the States has slowed down in the last few years. If you live over here you would realise that people are lucky if they have a job.

Rome wasn't built in a day. My understanding is alot of things are in place, the economy is kicking everyones as at the moment.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

PSF

Everything in the States has slowed down in the last few years. If you live over here you would realise that people are lucky if they have a job.

Rome wasn't built in a day. My understanding is alot of things are in place, the economy is kicking everyones as at the moment.

It's not the slow progression that's the problem, it's that nothing seems to be being done. Niu has made a few claims and he's being backed by officials, coaches and players on his word. But he's done this before and nothing came of it.

Not just that, but everything with Niu seems to be some great secret that us mere mortals aren't allowed to know about, and there's always some conveniant reason as to why.

The new AMNRL website being stalled with no reason why is a prime example. I can't think of any viable reason as to why the process would be stalled. But we're told there's a reason for this, we're just not allowed to know. Then in 2013(granted the world hasn't ended) we'll get a new website, and we'll be expected to believe he's resolved some genuine problem.

Problem being he's got a track record for exageration bordering on lies. I don't personally believe there's anything stopping the Website Revamp other than Nius complacency.

The frustration you're seeing from people is on the back of dissapointment, not spite or hatred. Despite how it might come across or what I've said in haste I don't really want Niu out of his position, he's almost solely responsible for the AMNRL and its current standing. The question for most people should be whether or not he can move it further?

He's hit a stage with the AMNRL where passion can't drive you much further. A stage where real business accumen is needed to see genuine growth.

Is Niu the man for that? I've seen nothing to suggest so.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Anyway figured I'd apologise if I offended any of those directly involved with the AMNRL and how it's run. Was never my intention to be such a twat. I'm a bit of a cup-half-full bloke and got a little carried away after being insulted.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

By those involved I reserve my right to exlude Niu. Don't and never will rate his capability to run the AMNRL.

 

[spinnerhowland]

Anytime you want to come to the USA and really see just how tough it is over here to get RL moving by all means let me know - I will gladly show you the challenges we all face. Getting sponsors, grants, city money, council funds, etc, is almost impossible for stuff. Finding land for a dedicated RL field is not even close to happening.
Jacksonville - there are about 200 youth flag football teams, probably the same youth soccer teams, probably more baseball teams and then add on all the other youth AMERICAN sports I am missing. There are 3 Rugby teams (Axemen and 2 Union clubs) - No elected official is going to vote on something that is challenged by the youth when it comes to money unless something BIG can be shown to come from it - it would be suicide at the next election. The only way anything is going to get done is for those in our sport to keep the faith and just keep pushing at every chance we get to increase the exposure our sport gets and then hope that grows into something that actually creates some noise by itself. It is just the way it is. We are a minority sport at the moment and we just need to be patient but not stop walking forward - webstream our game when we can, get on the radio and TV when we can, make the newspaper (for good reasons) when we can, use facebook, twitter, etc, when we can, take up the offer of free PR or to do appearances when we can. If you put one gallon of petrol into a car you can drive away really quickly but the needle hardly moves and you cant drive it very far - if you stand at the pump a little longer you get 10 gallons in the car and the needle moves to the top and you can drive it for miles. Standing at the pump is not very exciting and at times you wish the pump would pump faster and sometimes you even stop before filling up the car because you are rushed to move to the next thing. This lets you leave sooner but means you will be back to the pump sooner too - Staying at the pump until the tank is full takes longer, it is boring and very un-exciting and no one notices you at all - but when you finally get into your car you can drive it for longer and father than all those who left before you.

 

[MR KNIGHT]

Lost me at the gas pump bit, but concur with everything else!

Build stadia ey RHighlights? Are you serious - did you see how much bs Manly had to go through to get a grant for upgrades for Brookvale!

Do I have to re post the article about Pier 40?

I think you have just lost all credabilty so I am not even going to waste time with you anymore. There is nothing added, no ideas, just bagging of David Niu. I think he may have denied you an autograph at Kograh one day as a kid! Why don't you climb back to your pretend world, marketing guru.

Now that he has gone

AMNRL Season almost on us! Exiting! New York vs Boston at The Castle Pier 40. NY has three former Newtown players and will have a 2nd team to play Bostons second team - going to be a great year!

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Anytime you want to come to the USA and really see just how tough it is over here to get RL moving by all means let me know - I will gladly show you the challenges we all face. Getting sponsors, grants, city money, council funds, etc, is almost impossible for stuff. Finding land for a dedicated RL field is not even close to happening.
Jacksonville - there are about 200 youth flag football teams, probably the same youth soccer teams, probably more baseball teams and then add on all the other youth AMERICAN sports I am missing. There are 3 Rugby teams (Axemen and 2 Union clubs) - No elected official is going to vote on something that is challenged by the youth when it comes to money unless something BIG can be shown to come from it - it would be suicide at the next election. The only way anything is going to get done is for those in our sport to keep the faith and just keep pushing at every chance we get to increase the exposure our sport gets and then hope that grows into something that actually creates some noise by itself. It is just the way it is. We are a minority sport at the moment and we just need to be patient but not stop walking forward - webstream our game when we can, get on the radio and TV when we can, make the newspaper (for good reasons) when we can, use facebook, twitter, etc, when we can, take up the offer of free PR or to do appearances when we can. If you put one gallon of petrol into a car you can drive away really quickly but the needle hardly moves and you cant drive it very far - if you stand at the pump a little longer you get 10 gallons in the car and the needle moves to the top and you can drive it for miles. Standing at the pump is not very exciting and at times you wish the pump would pump faster and sometimes you even stop before filling up the car because you are rushed to move to the next thing. This lets you leave sooner but means you will be back to the pump sooner too - Staying at the pump until the tank is full takes longer, it is boring and very un-exciting and no one notices you at all - but when you finally get into your car you can drive it for longer and father than all those who left before you.

Fair point and I'll take your word for it, given Jacksonville are one of the teams who seem to take the business side of things more serious.

I still though believe that David isn't doing enough on the business and marketing front. And that he's a repeat bait and switcher. Making big claims then going into hiding.

From what I've seen i'd rather your guy Slover take over marketing and co-ownership of the whole AMNRL. Jags are the only team who seem to constantly stay in the media pertaining to US league news, and can actually draw in fans and sponsors.

Again though I'm gonna go back to my earlier point, if Niu marketed and pushed harder online(and i realise this may not be top priority) naysayers like myself would be in the know and would understand how difficult it goes.

However all we see is him going bad on claims and generally doing an average job, without ever explaining anything or putting information of situation and plans out there. I can only go off what I see and the small amount of information thats relayed back to me.

It's not easy, but it looks like it would be a hell of alot easier with a CEO who had a better grasp of the business component. Especially annoying when David Niu can find the time to tweet with mates on twitter but not fill in the hundreds of thousands of people across the world who want a bit of info, good or bad.

Reminds me of a politician with all the secrets. I don't like politicians.:lol:

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Lost me at the gas pump bit, but concur with everything else!

Build stadia ey RHighlights? Are you serious - did you see how much bs Manly had to go through to get a grant for upgrades for Brookvale!

Do I have to re post the article about Pier 40?

I think you have just lost all credabilty so I am not even going to waste time with you anymore. There is nothing added, no ideas, just bagging of David Niu. I think he may have denied you an autograph at Kograh one day as a kid! Why don't you climb back to your pretend world, marketing guru.

Now that he has gone

AMNRL Season almost on us! Exiting! New York vs Boston at The Castle Pier 40. NY has three former Newtown players and will have a 2nd team to play Bostons second team - going to be a great year!

Mate Manlys stadium is bloody huge. I'm talking about a few hundred seats in the middle of a park. Planning permission is piss-easy to get for such a small project. I'm not even sure you'd need it but depends on local gov law and regulation. It's the council you'd have to get on side if was the case.

You can't even go one post without insults, can you?

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Did I say Jags? Thinking of the NFL team lol. Mind is somewhere else today

 

[MR KNIGHT]

Councils, grounds piss easy?

Please list in detail your experience with this.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Councils, grounds piss easy?

Please list in detail your experience with this.

Mentioned before my Dads occupation as a structural engineer, mainly specialising in Stadia. You pick up a few things in that line of work. It was something I wanted to do myself for many years so read quite a bit about it.

My experience with the council has been my own, I'm sure it differs hugely depending on which council you're stuck with.:lol:

The point is getting a few tiers on a piece of grass isn't that difficult. We're not talking about a shopping mall. It's a small job and a permit should be easy to obtain.

There would then be, in my mind, no reason for the council to reject the proposal. Atleast not a legitimate one.

Each case is obviously different in its own right, but i'll stress again I'm not talking about a big stadium.

And I would be able to push small stadia through if i ran a team, i'd just throw some money at local politicians or dig some dirt on them :crazy:

 

[RugbyHighlights]

http://i50.tinypic.com/15cf4f7.jpg

That's an example of a website design a pro could knock out in 30 minutes

 

[MR KNIGHT]

Again, specify your experiences (not your dads or what you wanted to be when you grow up) in dealing with councils and building grounds. Not hypotheticals. We don't work in them!

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Again, specify your experiences (not your dads or what you wanted to be when you grow up) in dealing with councils and building grounds. Not hypotheticals. We don't work in them!

Well i worked with my Dad:lol:. I spent a couple of years building and assembling buildings, stadia etc. So i know about obtaining planning permission and cost of such projects.

As for the council, my good friend IS the council. I'm also in the process of setting up a charity and an educational video website(similar to a library), so am at the moment in direct talks with my local councillors pertaining to support and funding.

If you were refused permission then what did you apply for, what was their response; Better yet, what have you done to create public interest and anti-council feeling regarding their decision?

 

[MR KNIGHT]

Well i worked with my Dad:lol:. I spent a couple of years building and assembling buildings, stadia etc. So i know about obtaining planning permission and cost of such projects.

As for the council, my good friend IS the council. I'm also in the process of setting up a charity and an educational video website(similar to a library), so am at the moment in direct talks with my local councillors pertaining to support and funding.

If you were refused permission then what did you apply for, what was their response; Better yet, what have you done to create public interest and anti-council feeling regarding their decision?

 

[MR KNIGHT]

This is just fun now because you are exposing yourself as such a loon!

Let me ask you this way - what have you GOT DONE through the council. What have you achieved. Give me specifics of different projects that you have personally passed through the council.

Your friend is the council! Is it an imaginary friend ?! Is his name Snuffleufagus?

You are in the process, you are in talks? But you have achieved what? Sound familiar?

 

[clarency]

I second pretty much everything from RH here. I've been following RL in USA for a while now and sadly I find myself frustrated and disappointed at what I've seen. I'm not saying that the AMNRL has failed (not at all). It's simply that the progression is a really just a crawl. You can pin it towards things like the economy and so forth but in the end it is the administration of the AMNRL that is the sole cause.

You can't take credit for it's success without holding the responsibility when it does not succeed (progress in this case) when it should be. As you are all friends of Daves I strongly suggest you look at this objectively without interpreting everything as an insult towards Dave.

The site is a prime example of it's failure to move forward.

Why wasn't it updated since it's creation 10+ years ago?
Why is it taking so long to update now?
Why are the reasons for why it's taking so long so secretive?
Why did he/you/they reject the offer to have a professional site created for the league (you can't deny that RH has talent) for free?

You only need to look at Lebanon to see why it's so frustrating watching it's progression in the US. I know it's a different country all... but they at least got themselves a decent site...

http://www.lebrl.com/team.php?id=3&n=3