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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Quidgybo

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some are saying put a roof on
that'd cost a lot so no , lets not
The problem is that historically Sydney crowds plummet when it rains. Where fans in other parts of the world are happy to stand in a blizzard to watch their sport, Sydney-siders seem to have better things to do. How often do we as a game say “well we would’ve got a great crowd today except it rained an hour before kick off”? We really need to remove that excuse from our arsenal. Yes, it’ll cost more but with our Rugby League hats on, roofed stadiums in Sydney is something we really want.

Leigh
 

Raiderdave

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The problem is that historically Sydney crowds plummet when it rains. Where fans in other parts of the world are happy to stand in a blizzard to watch their sport, Sydney-siders seem to have better things to do. How often do we as a game say “well we would’ve got a great crowd today except it rained an hour before kick off”? We really need to remove that excuse from our arsenal. Yes, it’ll cost more but with our Rugby League hats on, roofed stadiums in Sydney is something we really want.

Leigh

theres an argument for a roof of course if we had a wish list which we don't.
when pennies are being watched , it'd be the first thing that would go if it were in a plan , which it isn't for either stadium anyway , if it saves $$$ it goes , & thats what this argument is about.
 

Raiderdave

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...e/news-story/b9600909cad086462b7e3cbd5317305a

Editorial: Sir Frank Lowy talks stadium sense

Editorial, The Daily Telegraph
March 8, 2018 11:00pm

SIR Frank Lowy is not just a legendary Australian and one of the greatest success stories this country has ever produced, he also knows a thing or two about really big building projects.

So when the former chairman of both Westfield and Football Federation Australia has something to say about Sydney’s sporting infrastructure, it pays to listen.

And his message is loud and clear when it comes to the state government’s plan to invest $2 billion to rebuild Allianz Stadium at Moore Park and ANZ Stadium at Homebush.

This city needs world-class sporting infrastructure as much as it needs theatres and other cultural institutions, and it is time to get on with the job.

In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph, Sir Frank backed the call to knock down the existing stadiums, noting the lack of space at their current locations makes expanding or refurbishing them unsuitable solutions.

That’s not all the outspoken Sir Frank had to say. While the rebirth of the ANZ and Allianz stadiums would be a boon for sport, culture and the economy, he also said that Sydney was at risk of hamstringing itself due to the lack of good transport options.

Proving that being stuck in traffic is a wholly democratic and universal experience for Sydneysiders that knows no class boundaries, Sir Frank said we had to move now to cater for the population growth that is slated to hit Sydney.

Echoing the thoughts of many in this city, Sir Frank told The Daily Telegraph, “The traffic in Sydney is unbelievable and I think we need to build more connecting roads ... can you imagine what Sydney will be like in 20 years time?”

According to the shopping centre mogul, this means more underground roads in the inner city as well as more trains.

As well as projects such as the two stadium rebuilds, he supports building a high-speed railway line to link Western Sydney Airport with Parramatta and the Sydney CBD.

All of which is about as sound an endorsement of embarking on an infrastructure campaign as can be found.

A man who escaped war-torn Europe with nothing, only to fetch up in Australia to build a multibillion-dollar retail empire knows a thing or two about planning for the future.

We’re improving with age



Over the hill ain’t what it used to be. In fact, if new research is anything to go by, Australian women are feeling happier and more confident at ever older ages.

Researchers found that of a sample group of more than 2000 women surveyed between ages 40 and 59, nearly half said they never looked better and two-thirds rated themselves more confident and body positive than when they were younger.

And this, researchers found, led to better results in everything — from career prospects to the bedroom.

So much for the old saying, youth is wasted on the young.

Rails to Newcastle

Sydney to Newcastle in two hours seems like an impossibly quick trip by rail, but there is a glimmer of hope it may be possible.

As The Daily Telegraph reports, the federal Infrastructure Department is investigating a major upgrade to the rail line between the two cities.

Should it occur, the project would open up a range of new housing and jobs.

It would all be made possible through a series of upgrades to tracks, removal of level crossings, simplifying ageing junctions, and shifting freight services that currently clog the passenger routes between the two cities.

But Novocastrians should not jump the gun and start job hunting in the Sydney CBD with an expectation of a shortened commute just yet.

What’s on the table is at this stage just a proposal which will be lodged with Infrastructure Australia next year.

Nevertheless, faster rail services between the two cities would be a tremendous asset to both metropolises, and even if it’s a long way off many would say it can’t come a moment too soon.

odd article
what do older women not feeling fat & getting some in the sack have to do with sydneys infrastructure LOL
 

beave

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Pic courtesy of commercialdroneimagery instagram page.

Posted about 3 weeks ago

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Id like to see Newcastle finished off and Wollongong with a stand down the eastern side, even those stands are the ends could be improved.

But Allianz definitely needs to be rebuilt. Just not to 45k.

Not so sure about a stand on the eastern side at Wollongong, it would be right along the beach and not sure wether the council would allow it, I always wondered about the hook around bit from the northern stand that comes around on the eastern side, was that originally designed with a possible extension along the eastern side ? The stand at the southern end that was put in at the early 90s needs to be demolished and replaced,

Yeah. It backs on to sand dunes so building anything there is off the cards.

A steep single tiered stand using the existing hill would be a possibility if they simply terraced over it with concrete and put in seats.

This would significantly reduce capacity though.

Something that resembles the north stand at the southern end would make for a cauldron-like atmosphere. The Western and Northern stands currently rank a perfect 10 on the Hindmarsh Stadium Index of Stand Steepness.... The south.. .Not so much.

f**k it shits me that there's 4 different colour seats across the 3 stands.
Should have made it red and white from the get go. Terrible foresight.

Anyway. Future funding would be contingent on more content. I.e. Wolves/Illawarra to the A-League
 
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Yeah. It backs on to sand dunes so building anything there is off the cards.

A steep single tiered stand using the existing hill would be a possibility if they simply terraced over it with concrete and put in seats.

This would significantly reduce capacity though.

Something that resembles the north stand at the southern end would make for a cauldron-like atmosphere. The Western and Northern stands currently rank a perfect 10 on the Hindmarsh Stadium Index of Stand Steepness.... The south.. .Not so much.

f**k it shits me that there's 4 different colour seats across the 3 stands.
Should have made it red and white from the get go. Terrible foresight.

Anyway. Future funding would be contingent on more content. I.e. Wolves/Illawarra to the A-League


Maybe a better future plan would be to knock down the northern & southern stands, then build new ones that connect with the western stand to fill in the corners? Increase wet weather seating.

You could also then get rid of the hill by doing a single terrace of seats as you suggested. Capacity would remain similar.

To me the long term goal should be to get the dragons playing most of their games in Wollongong.
 
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The only bad thing about this stadium is only one nrl team will use it! It will easily be the best club stadium in nsw.

It’s a real pity. The govt only have themselves to blame though.

Said this a few years ago but if you wanted other western Sydney team to use it, it needed to be on neutral territory. Right next door to parra leagues is the killer.

That’s why it’s now so important we get ANZ done properly with a good club mode.

Parra will get some decent use in its first few years, after that the only other clubs I see using it are Penrith and the Tigers for finals matches.
 

beave

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Maybe a better future plan would be to knock down the northern & southern stands, then build new ones that connect with the western stand to fill in the corners? Increase wet weather seating.

You could also then get rid of the hill by doing a single terrace of seats as you suggested. Capacity would remain similar.

To me the long term goal should be to get the dragons playing most of their games in Wollongong.

I don’t think you could knock the northern stand down now hey. The entertainment centre and the northern stand share some common structure?
 
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I don’t think you could knock the northern stand down now hey. The entertainment centre and the northern stand share some common structure?

I’m not sure. Sometimes buildings are done so closely it’s hard to tell.

Looking at some pictures it’s possible they could join the western & northern stand without knocking it down anyway. They look fairly similar in gradient & size.
 
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Wait 2 years ..

Tigers .. dogs.. Panthers will consider it

Tigers could be a chance. Dogs will only use it when ANZ it out of action, there’d be more chance of hell freezing over than them moving there full time.

Penrith. No chance. It’s simply too far, and the panthers make a lot of money on game day at the leagues club.
 

Cumberland Throw

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Because it might be 2. Depending on how fast it gets built.
Plus hes an SCG trust merkin. Of course he wants that, more money for his friends.

I reckon trust is trying to poach SOO for every year..

If they spend too much on Allianz they know anz won't change ..

Then there will be pressure to play Soo at Allianz... As $900 m has been invested in a perfect rectanguar stadium etc

The trust want anz closed down
 
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I reckon trust is trying to poach SOO for every year..

If they spend too much on Allianz they know anz won't change ..

Then there will be pressure to play Soo at Allianz... As $900 m has been invested in a perfect rectanguar stadium etc

The trust want anz closed down

That’ll never happen.

Unless the trust could somehow come up with the $3-4 million in lost revenue.
 
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