NSW going forward

Discussion in 'State of Origin and other State Leagues' started by Bunnylife, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. Smack

    Smack Juniors

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    Teddy, has the potential to be the best FB in the game. I wasn't impressed with his defence prior to this year, but this year he showed me that he is a smart footballer. I think he will be even better than Slater and Boyd once he gets involved in the attack a bit more in the opposition 20.
     
  2. big hit!

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    but once again, if the forwards aren't moving, your good players aren't gonna do shit. he was solid at the back in game 3 but hardly had any game-breaking impact. doesn't offer much when the big boys are getting beaten. this has been the problem with a lot of NSW star or impact players. they're downhill runners.

    in contrast, dugan was outstanding in his fullback cameo in game 2 after Graham's brain snap in defence allowed the Mcgurie line break and gagai's first try. under a lot of pressure from QLD's kicking game and chase, Duges made tough metres, much of it after initial contact, getting the ball out of NSW red zone. it was something Gagai has been doing for 2 consecutive series now. even when the big men weren't moving, he was a big pressure release valve early in sets.

    he's probably too slow for the wing, but if Duges does get selected next year and IMO, there is no reason he shouldnt because he was ione player who should hold his head up high after games 2 and 3, it sould be as a fullback or winger. use his ability to run the ball out to NSW advantage.
     
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  3. Smack

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    I agree with you, Woods should never play for NSW again
     
  4. Shorty

    Shorty Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm sort of puzzled how you come away from game 3 with that view? As I said earlier, he was repeatedly targetted by Morgan coming out of his line and a more creative fullback takes advantage of that the 2nd or 3rd time it happens.
    If you watch Cameron Munster, he doesn't even really need it to happen once, he takes advantage immediately, with one leading to a try.
     
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  5. Smack

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    I'm not basing it off game 3, I am looking at him in general overall this year and his rep games. While he had some solid positional play in G3, he was out of position at times. He did however make good reads and showed me glimpses of potential better than any other FB we have.

    All he needs to do is get more involved in the red zone attack, but that was hard in G3 as we had no ball or opportunities.

    I hate the roosters, but this guy is going to be a gun for them and NSW
     
  6. Old Time Tiger

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    I'd go with players playing in their correct positions, not selecting them because they are playing fantastic for their selective clubs, otherwise we should have/could have 4 fullbacks, 5 wingers, 5 second rowers etc.

    I also want leaders who gets stuck into their team when there's a stop in play, be it after a try has been scored against them and for them.
    I'd go with mongrel, someone with plenty of aggression in all of their defensive work as well, who is that?
    I'd go with a back rower to play for 80 minutes and not replaced because there's a reserve that hasn't had a run yet.
    Can we pick centres in the centre? A right centre to play right side, a left centre on the left.
    An edge forward who normally or only plays

    Is there a No 9 who can do something from dummy half? can kick maybe? can skirt out of dummy half? who can do that and more and still do 35 tackles for 80 minutes? I was happy when Farah was overlooked (he wasn't going to play was he?) and happy that Peats got a go but gee, can he kick? can he do anything other than tackle ?

    I'd go with the following and in brackets are 2nd choice/backups

    1. Tedesco (Dugan)
    2. Mansour ( Wighton)
    3. Bird
    4. Walker
    5. Trbojevic
    6. Moylan (Maloney / Keary)
    7. Maloney (Reynolds) but Nathan Cleary to spend time with squad)
    8. Boyd
    9. Peats
    10. Klemmer
    11. Cordner
    12. Jackson
    13. Merrin

    14. Trbojevic
    15. Vaughan
    16. Graham
    17. Frizell
    18. Fifita
    19. Nathan Brown
    20 Gutherson
    21 Tepai Moeroa
     
  7. OldPanther

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    Not bad. Wighton is a fullback and you want players in their positions.
     
  8. Travitoh

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    Disagree. The biggest difference between the two teams and has been for some time is the Qld spine. All 4 will be immortals and i doubt we'll see anything like it again. At least 2 won't be there next year with the other 2 not far behind. The playing field will level right out and if NSW can get their spine right, possibly even shift dramatically in favour of the Blues.

    I'd go with Maloney and Cleary in the halves - a mix of youth and experience with Moylan or even Gutherson being used from the utility spot. Probably Peats at 9 unless McInnis can take another step forward in his development and challenge for a spot and Tedesco at FB with Tom Trbojevic on a wing, possibly replacing him one day.

    1 Tedesco
    2 Mansour
    3 Dugan
    4 Bird
    5 Trbojevic
    6 Maloney
    7 Cleary
    8 Klemmer
    9 Peats
    10 Vaughan
    11 Cordner
    12 Graham
    13 Trbojevic

    14 Moylan
    15 Frizell
    16 Brown
    17 Fifita

    That's if i was to pick a side tomorrow, obviously there is a lot of time to pass by between now and next series.
     
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  9. DOGS AND EELS!!!

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    Gus has already told NSWRL to get f**ked if they're wanting to pick Cleary next year.
     
  10. Tiger Woody

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    Cleary was devastating against the Warriors on Fri night.
    Won the game for them
    A 10 out of 10 performance.We need him at Tigers when his contract runs out at Penrith
     
  11. Tiger Woody

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    Hillbilly Woods was never an Origin player.He's a plodder overweight.
    He must be mates with Daley..if we get a new coach Sharon Woods won't be picked
    Him and Fifita embarrassed themselves We'd night....
     
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  12. Smack

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    And most importantly, they let down all those legends who played for NSW before them.
     
  13. Spot On

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    Forget it. Our pack was humiliated - again - by blokes willing to get off their line and dominate every tackle by hitting hard and often hitting low.

    We have 2 blokes capable of hitting hard and hitting low - Josh J and Jake T. We don't have a side capable of making their defence their asset at this level. Don't ask me why because I don't know the answer but that is where the game is usually won or lost. Yes great spine players put the icing on the cake but when you can't compete at the basics of the game and really rip in defensively then it's over.

    And these blokes pick up 30K after each game even though they lose the series every year. That shit has to stop.
     
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  14. TheFrog

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    Dad would still have him in the 20's.
     
  15. TheFrog

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    Couldn't agree more. This is why the likes of Tedesco aren't worth $1m. They will score your points for you when you are already winning, but if you are losing, there's nothing they can do.

    Sounds like bullshit to me but you'd hope they've learnt something from the Pearce saga. He's too young.

    You'd also think they'd have learnt something from the practice of proclaiming someone as the saviour after one good game.
     
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  16. nick87

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    Dugan, Morris and Ferguson have to go, and Tommy T and Mansour replace them

    Woods out, Vaughan in
    Paulo to partner Vaughan in the front row
    Fifita back to bench, Jake T starting at 13.
    Josh Jackson stuffed in a rocket and fired into the f**king sun
    Friz to the edges

    So something in the realm of:

    1. Tedesco
    2. Tom T
    3. Bird
    4. Hayne
    5. Mansour
    6. Maloney
    7. Cleary
    8. Vaughan
    9. Peats/Wallace
    10. Paulo
    11. Cordner (c)
    12. Frizzel
    13. Jake T

    14. Wallace/Peachey/Moylan
    15. Fifita
    16. Klemmer
    17. Graham

    Obviously come 2020 the blues won't need to worry too much, by then the great one Nick Cotric will be ready and they can just build a dynasty around him
     
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  17. Spot On

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    They'll carve Paulo up around the ruck. He'll be another 15kg heavier next year.

    Nothing is going to change with that mob unless someone comes in a tears the place down, tells the players how it is going to be and instils some mongrel and brains in them. Tell them they no longer get their 30K losers fee as well. f**k the resort style living off. f**k the casino off. Piss the 10 day camps off. None of that has worked for over a decade.

    Seriously, Boyd Cordner is captain. FFS.
     
  18. King hit

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    Brett Morris was only playing because Mansour and Trobevic were injured. If they were available he wouldn't have played. I thought he was good in this series and didn't disgrace himself.
     
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  19. Spot On

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    Hayne can go jump as well. Don't want to see him back again.
     
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  20. umina panther

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    Finally a Raiders juinor that I agree with all the hype.

    Good pack you picked too, shits on what Loz picked
     

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