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Gary Gutful

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He is obviously not actually unreliable - he is the primary playmaker in a consistent top eight side. He is only comparatively unreliable compared to plodders like Cronk and Pearce.

These latter two are better players than Milford. They are just inferior playmakers.
Milford's ball handling and kicking game are big negatives. The positive aspects of his game (unpredictability and threat to defensive lines) don't outweigh those negatives.

Milford is an inferior playmaker when compared to Cronk. His shit defence also makes him an inferior player.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Milford's ball handling and kicking game are big negatives. The positive aspects of his game (unpredictability and threat to defensive lines) don't outweigh those negatives.
But they do make him a better playmaker. This is why teams carry a player like this (and Moses) in their side, rather than just using a back rower or centre with a kicking game.
 

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Gary you fanny faced f**kwit.
Kicking and tackling has nothing to do with play making. Pou is not talking about there whole game. He is talking about pure play making.
For me Cronk uses set plays. The Storm are like a machine. Everything is orchestrated to perfection.
He doesnt have to play whats infront of him. Always been in succesfull teams. He is a fine player and a 7/10 in most areas with a 10 for clutch and a 10 for defense.
Cronk moves into another excellent team. Good players look elite in excellent teams.
 

Gary Gutful

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Gary you fanny faced f**kwit.
Fair call.
Kicking and tackling has nothing to do with play making.
I have been talking about kicking and ball handling. Ball handling and a short kicking game are needed to make plays are they not?

Pou is not talking about there whole game. He is talking about pure play making.
So am I.

For me Cronk uses set plays. The Storm are like a machine. Everything is orchestrated to perfection.
It still requires enormous skill and precision to deliver what Cronk does. Surely the term playmaker extends beyond someone constantly just pulling stuff out of their backside.

Or is Cronk a better 'playfollower' because the plays have already been made on Bellamy's white board.

Either f**k you and Pou for your stupid definitions.

He doesnt have to play whats infront of him.
Becuase every f**ken play that they have ever come up with has worked perfectly and they have never had to change anything.

Always been in succesfull teams. He is a fine player and a 7/10 in most areas with a 10 for clutch and a 10 for defense
Pretty good playmaker as well.

Cronk moves into another excellent team. Good players look elite in excellent teams.
Elite players make teams look excellent as well.
 

Gary Gutful

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But they do make him a better playmaker. This is why teams carry a player like this (and Moses) in their side, rather than just using a back rower or centre with a kicking game.
They carry players like Milford and Moses because there aren't enough Cronk's to go around.

Cronk's precision, skill and ability to execute deft plays with his great passing, running and short kicking game makes him just as effective as Milford or Moses with the ball in his hands. The fact that he is more consistent and doesn't f**k up makes him better.

Maybe you think that describes someone who isn't a playmaker and that's why we aren't agreeing. It is a stupid f**king term when you think about it.
 

Gary Gutful

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How about......

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