Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[mxlegend99]

These tweets sound less optimistic in keeping him.

Very good to excellent makes it sound like a 99% chance its done. These sound 50/50 again.

 

[umina panther]

Haven't you guys learned anything about Gus? Never believe a word or tweet that comes out of his mouth.

 

[franklin2323]

Haven't you guys learned anything about Gus? Never believe a word or tweet that comes out of his mouth.

Yep. He always has an agenda and people always fall for the games

 

[umina panther]

Yep. He always has an agenda and people always fall for the games

And its his job to lie. He really shouldn't be on Twitter it can only cause problems. He's also a bitch on there and will close his account when someone calls out his bullshit

 

[OldPanther]

Haven't you guys learned anything about Gus? Never believe a word or tweet that comes out of his mouth.

Yep. He always has an agenda and people always fall for the games

Haven'tgot an opinion one way or the other on Nathan at the moment. I can see reasons for staying and going. Depends what kind of person he is as to which reasons call to him more.

 

[franklin2323]

Haven'tgot an opinion one way or the other on Nathan at the moment. I can see reasons for staying and going. Depends what kind of person he is as to which reasons call to him more.

I see no reason for him to go. Nothing has changed since both Nathan and Gus said no talks. He can't be seen as ignoring the question so gives answers to keep everyone happy

 

[franklin2323]

And its his job to lie. He really shouldn't be on Twitter it can only cause problems. He's also a bitch on there and will close his account when someone calls out his bullshit

He'd have a motive for being on there. I wouldn't say lie but probably only 10% of the full story. If he aired to full story of things like what James did with us etc it loses players trust. So I get it

 

[OldPanther]

I see no reason for him to go. Nothing has changed since both Nathan and Gus said no talks. He can't be seen as ignoring the question so gives answers to keep everyone happy

Money or to play under his father. He might not take those options but there are reasons he could go.

 

[MrBlack]

Cleary is playing behind one of the best forward packs in quite a few years.

Question is - would he continue to dominate behind a lesser pack??

This is why he may stay.

Also he is happy here, playing with mates in a team that has good spirit. Gus will make it worth his while financially and everything else will be the point of difference that makes his mind up.

 

[umina panther]

I still believe if Nathan has a deal with a club that can win comps now he COULD leave. I know ive said it before but Gus' comments about Ivan were childish, unprofessional and simply idiotic. Surely Nathan has feelings about it

 

[OldPanther]

I still believe if Nathan has a deal with a club that can win comps now he COULD leave. I know ive said it before but Gus' comments about Ivan were childish, unprofessional and simply idiotic. Surely Nathan has feelings about it

He surely would unless the Cleary family agree that Ivan was getting run down at the time.

 

[Pomoz]

I still believe if Nathan has a deal with a club that can win comps now he COULD leave. I know ive said it before but Gus' comments about Ivan were childish, unprofessional and simply idiotic. Surely Nathan has feelings about it

I disagree. His comments were tactful and inoffensive. He had to give a reason why he sacked Ivan and he used an innocuous statement.

As an executive you have to fire people all the time. You cannot divulge the reasons why publicly. That is why people say things like 'left to pursue other opportunities', rather than 'he was an arsehole who bullied staff so he had to go'. I am in no way inferring Ivan left for any reason than what Gus said, but if its true, he was tired, to say so is hardly a damaging statement or indictment of Ivan's ability.

With hindsight, Ivan may realise Gus was right. He needed a change.

 

[unKwn]

Nathan would be foolish to leave. I know blood is thicker than water but he won't grow as a player under his dad I think. He has the best chance to win a comp and set up a good future for himself, his mates and the club. All under a well managed cap courtesy of Gus, and a great halves partner and mentor in Maloney. If I was Cleary, I wouldn't want to help rebuild another club (tigers), but instead stay at the club which is leading to great things in the future years. But then you have the roosters with their mountain of money and god knows if Cleary is loyal to the panthers or not.

 

[BxTom]

I would also make the point that not only was Nathan raving about the mates here, he was also raving about the resources and the way the rehab staff had treated him. All things that would appeal to a professional athlete. Good signs.

Tom

 

[umina panther]

For pure football reasons then yes he'd be mad to leave. Also can't see money being an issue with Gus' having spent a lot of time learning from Uncle Nick......

 

[TheFrog]

He had to give a reason why he sacked Ivan and he used an innocuous statement.

My guess would be that Gus wanted to have a certain amount of hands on involvement, without actually being the coach, and Cleary wasn't amenable, so Gus brought in someone who was.

 

[umina panther]

Bellamy to the Broncos makes me worry. Gun coach and unlimited brown paper bags. They also need a 7 more than anything else

 

[franklin2323]

Money or to play under his father. He might not take those options but there are reasons he could go.

Money he gets here. Playing under His dad. He'd get longer in the car with him but would get to training and be flogged in the gym by a trainer with strangers.
Not too mention the players they'd lose to add his $1m plus to the cap in a team not pushing for the title anyway.

Mansour could of even gone to play with his best man from his wedding for more cash and stayed. Close team bond will always win out

 

[franklin2323]

Bellamy to the Broncos makes me worry. Gun coach and unlimited brown paper bags. They also need a 7 more than anything else

No where near his family and having to deal with QLders.. It is us or the Roosters only realistically

 

[OldPanther]

Money he gets here. Playing under His dad. He'd get longer in the car with him but would get to training and be flogged in the gym by a trainer with strangers.
Not too mention the players they'd lose to add his $1m plus to the cap in a team not pushing for the title anyway.

Mansour could of even gone to play with his best man from his wedding for more cash and stayed. Close team bond will always win out

I didn't say he'd take the options.