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I assume that when you have a squad that's contending year in year out for rings that it would be a given that you would be spending almost the max...

That's what I would have thought.... Unless there is a side agreement to look afterthe leagues best QB in retirement. :sarcasm:
 

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All the talk is the Dolphins are supremely confident that they will land Suh.

I'm pretty disappointed as I thought we would have been a perfect fit for him...

Pot Roast would be the consolation prize you'd think...
 

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Lost for words at how disappointing this FA period has been...

The only thing I can think of is no one wants to go near us....

The Jags have decided to make use of the extra cap space they have and bagged some great free agents with big money deals... But we just haven't opened up the chequebook at all...

The only saving grace I think is all the guys they have brought in are under 28yrs old....

But we still have over 40-50M in cap space available... Which we HAVE to spend...

We are going to have to hope there's a few late cuts which we can jump on...
 

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Here's an interesting ESPN insider piece I pinched off reddit... :lol:

Basically it's a mock war room scenario if the Raiders had to choose between Amari Cooper or Leonard Williams.

Insider's NFL Front Office is taking a look at the draft decisions facing the teams picking in the top five of the NFL draft. In this edition, it takes over the Oakland Raiders, looking at whether the team should invest in a wide receiver or defensive lineman.
Mark Dominik serves as our general manager, Herm Edwards as our head coach, Louis Riddick as our director of pro personnel, Aaron Schatz as our director of analytics and Mel Kiper as our director of college scouting.

Join the conversation on Twitter via @ESPNInsider with the hashtag #NFLFrontOffice.

Mark Dominik (general manager): When we went into the draft last year with the No. 5 pick, we didn't know Khalil Mack, a top-four talent, would slide to us. When he did we didn't hesitate before taking him, and he was one of the top rookies in the entire NFL this season, and he looks like a building block for us on defense.

I think we may have gotten another gift this year with USC defensive lineman Leonard Williams dropping to us at No. 4 in this scenario, after Marcus Mariota went to the Bucs at No. 1, Jameis Winston to the Titans at No. 2, and Dante Fowler Jr. to the Jaguars at No. 3.
It's very tempting to take one of the top two wide receivers here, either Amari Cooper or Kevin White, given our need at the position. But Williams might be the safest player in the entire draft in terms of his versatility and production on the field and reliability off the field. It's hard to pass on a player of his caliber at No. 4, but I'd like to get all of your recommendations.

Aaron Schatz (director of analytics): I completely agree with picking Williams here if he's available, and I say that as someone who really, really likes Cooper and thinks he projects as an excellent NFL wide receiver. But if we get Williams he helps both our run defense and our pass defense, and it's a huge upgrade compared to what we have at the position right now. Wide receiver is clearly a weakness, but I'm just a big Williams guy. There's no model for projecting defensive tackles, but his production and versatility are very good indicators of his future success.
One last thing: If we do want a receiver, I'm recommending Cooper. He is far and away the best receiver in this class according to our projections, while White ranks eighth. There are several red flags in his statistical profile.

Mel Kiper (director of college scouting): I totally agree with what Mark said about Mack, as he was one of my favorite rookies in the entire NFL last season. He was a dynamo against the run and played even better than his stats indicate. I also have Williams as the highest-ranked remaining player on my board, so I see the appeal in taking him with the No. 4 pick.
But he's not the player I want to pick here. I want us to draft Cooper, because while I really like Williams, I think if it's a close call in terms of talent, we should go with the player who makes multiple positions on our roster better, and that's Cooper.

For me, we can't say we feel we have a young franchise quarterback in Derek Carr and then not supply him with any weapons. And when I look at the group of pass-catchers we have, I see a bunch of complementary types -- and complementary might be a generous adjective given the way they played last year. Cooper is a ready-made NFL player, a guy who can be something close to a No. 1 wide receiver right away and already has been dealing with the type of attention NFL wide receivers get. We're talking about a player who caught 84 more passes than anyone on Alabama last year.
And while I know a good D-lineman helps those around him, Cooper will help our young quarterback, and he'll have a cascade effect on the offense as we create better matchups for our other receivers. So I get that Williams might be a gift to us, but I think we should give a gift to our quarterback and take Cooper.

Louis Riddick (director of pro personnel): I'm pretty strongly on the side of Cooper in this case, for three reasons.

One, I really like Cooper. Tell me what he can't do. This guy plays every bit of 4.3 fast. He ran every route that you'll see in the NFL during his time at Bama. He turns into a running back after the catch faster than any wide receiver prospect I've seen in a long time, getting north-south in a hurry. He reminds me of Jerry Rice when he runs slants, making more big plays off of that route than I've ever seen from a college player. And his character and work ethic are ridiculously good. He's only going to get better.

Two, I have concerns about taking Williams this high. I get what Mark means in saying he's a safe prospect, but I think he might be a little too safe for the No. 4 pick. He's more of a Muhammad Wilkerson type to me -- a guy who is very good against the run and a very good player, but he's not going to be a difference-maker on third down because he isn't consistently disruptive as a pass-rusher. I think with this high of a pick you need to go with someone you're sure will be a playmaker.
Finally, even if everyone else here has closer grades between Cooper and Williams, I consider wide receiver to be the fifth-most important position on an NFL roster, and defensive tackle the sixth-most important. So if it is a tie, I think the tie should go to the receiver.

Herm Edwards (head coach): I have a slightly different view here. I don't disagree with anything you guys have said about Cooper, and I agree that young quarterbacks like Carr need weapons. But I think the way you really help young quarterbacks isn't by giving them rookie wide receivers; it is by building a strong defense.

Williams is rated higher than Cooper and White on Mel's scouting board, and if this receiver class is as deep as we've all been saying it is, then we can find receivers later in the draft. If we take Williams all of a sudden we have a dominant linebacker in Mack and a dominant defensive tackle in Williams. That's the makings of a strong defensive core.

I have a different view of Williams than Louis does. I think he is a disruptor, and he's been consistently dominant throughout his college career. I love his long arms, lateral agility and how athletic he is. He can snatch and shed very well. As a coach, he's everything you're looking for in a defensive tackle.

Dominik: I think Herm makes a really good point about us being able to get a wide receiver later. Jaelen Strong, Phillip Dorsett, Devin Smith, Dorial Green-Beckham and Devin Funchess are among the guys on Mel's top 10 list of wide receivers who could possibly drop to us with the No. 35 pick. You could make an argument for any of them being a potential No. 1 receiver in the NFL.

So I think that makes me worry less about filling our wide receiver need at fourth overall, and to be honest, I'm not as high on Cooper as a potential top-five pick as some of you are. Defensive line talents like Williams are hard to come by, and I think with him dropping in our laps here at No. 4, we should take him and go get the best receiver available with the No. 35 pick. Having Williams and Mack in the same front seven is going to be fun for us to watch.
 
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I'm a big believer in going after best available rather than team need. If Williams is there, we are stupid not to take him and go after a WR in round 2.
 

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I'm pumped for Friday...

I think we are in a great position this year.... Sitting at #4 with two of the three teams above us heavily considering QB's who aren't at the top of most big boards.

So we will end up with one of the top 3 players on the board.

I'm thinking our preference will be:
1. Leonard Williams
2. Amari Cooper
3. Kevin White

Then we pick at #3 in the 2nd... And the way guys are falling we maybe able to get a steal in the 2nd.
 

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Yeah I took Friday off months ago...

When I told the mrs I took Friday off she said... "Ohhh how great... Your taking the day off work to be with your son on his 4th birthday... What a great dad you are"...

Yeah I forgot my sons birthday is the 1st of May... :lol:

All good though... I grabbed him a little raiders shirt and cap... And we will buy him the jersey of whoever we draft... :lol:
 

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I'm happy as hell with that....

And we're picking at #3 tomorrow with a heap of talent still available.

Maybe even Randy Gregory...
 
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Yeah I took Friday off months ago...

When I told the mrs I took Friday off she said... "Ohhh how great... Your taking the day off work to be with your son on his 4th birthday... What a great dad you are"...

Yeah I forgot my sons birthday is the 1st of May... :lol:

All good though... I grabbed him a little raiders shirt and cap... And we will buy him the jersey of whoever we draft... :lol:

hahahaha. Raider Nation, true family :p

I'm happy with our draft. I love the picks in the 3rd and 4th round. Both players look solid as heck. Obviously Cooper is going to be good for us. I'm a bit upset we released James Jones. He brought a lot of professionalism that could have rubbed off on Cooper.
 

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Agree with you 100% on James Jones.

Cutting Jones means that our most senior receiver is now Michael Crabtree. A guy one a one year incentive based deal with serious question marks whether he's a team player.

He's going to be expected to help guide a young receiver like Amari Cooper. Cooper is unique in a sense that he's a big time receiver with little or no ego. That's a great thing for a talented receiver and I'd love to keep him that way.

It's not like we are hard up for cap space... So I don't see why we had to release Jones.
 

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Absolutely love this picture.... The young buck sitting there listening to two of the greatest DB/S the game has ever seen... Certainly two of the best I've seen...

You could imagine the type of knowledge that would be coming out of that conversation...

Nek Minute... Talking about what they had for dinner last night... :lol:
 
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Good article if your a raiders fan...

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Khalil Mack is busy paving a path to stardom

Khalil Mack's eyes narrowed as he crouched into a two-point stance in early September. Standing across from the Oakland Raiders outside linebacker was Houston Texans Pro Bowl left tackle Duane Brown, a 6-foot-4, 320-pound mammoth of a blocker eager to test a first-year player in a game that was quickly turning into a Houston blowout. But as soon as Brown fired across the line of scrimmage after the snap, the 6-3, 252-pound Mack deftly slid away from the oncoming lineman, then easily tackled Texans running back Alfred Blue for no gain.

A few plays later, Mack was even more determined, as he noticed Texans backup tight end Ryan Griffin lining up across from him. I played against this guy in college, Mack thought to himself. If he's out here, I know I can play this game at a high level. Mack easily tossed Griffin aside on a couple more runs to remind the former UConn star that little had changed now that they were competing on football's biggest stage.

In fact, the longer Mack played in that 30-14 Week 2 loss, the more he felt as though he was making a statement with every play. The Raiders may not have been winning, but the rookie was telling the world something about a player who had been selected fifth overall in the 2014 draft. "I learned early on that it's hard to win games in this league," Mack said. "You have to pay attention to detail. You have to always have the right technique. And you really do have to play every down like it's your last."

The lessons Mack learned during his rookie season undoubtedly will come in handy this fall. There are still many questions surrounding a Raiders team that hasn't enjoyed a winning campaign since 2002 -- including the mysterious hand injury that has hampered second-year quarterback Derek Carr throughout organized team activities -- but one spot the franchise shouldn't worry about is strongside outside linebacker. At 24 years old, Mack already has flashed so much potential that Raiders safety Charles Woodson told the San Jose Mercury News last season the "dude is going to be special."

In his first season, Mack finished with 75 tackles, four sacks and a forced fumble, numbers that helped him finish third in voting for the league's defensive rookie of the year award (behind St. Louis' Aaron Donald and Baltimore's C.J. Mosley). This year the Raiders have much bigger expectations for Mack, especially with new head coach Jack Del Rio starting his first season and defensive coordinator Ken Norton installing new schemes. Del Rio wouldn't give many specifics on how Mack's role would change but he did make it apparent that Mack won't spend nearly as much time in pass coverage as he did in 2014. This time around, Mack will be chasing quarterbacks as much as possible, which is something he did quite well when given the chance, even if the sack totals don't look significant. Mack had 40 QB hurries last season to go with his exceptional run defending.

Since Del Rio coached Pro Bowl outside linebacker Von Miller as the Denver Broncos defensive coordinator from 2012-14, he'd like to see Mack have a similar impact on opposing passing attacks. "I think Khalil is way more physical than Von," Del Rio said. "Von got up to somewhere around 250 pounds when I had him but he's naturally closer to 240. Khalil can be up around 260 or 265 and they both play that strongside linebacker position and sub-pass-rusher role. Since most teams use their sub packages for two-thirds of the game, there will be some opportunities there. They're different but they're both special."

"I definitely want to get after the quarterback more this year," Mack said. "I got some hits [in 2014], but people didn't really see what I can do. Those sack numbers I had really weren't me. At the end of the day, you want people to see you at your best."

That explains why Mack didn't spend his offseason in trendy hot spots such as South Florida or Scottsdale, Arizona, the typical areas where many young NFL players prefer to train. Despite being a Florida native -- Mack grew up in Fort Pierce -- he returned to the University of Buffalo to work out with trainer John Opfer. When Mack wasn't running steep hills or lifting weights with his former college teammates, he was focusing on areas that could fine-tune his physique for a strong second year. Some of the most vital elements of Mack's conditioning program involved strengthening his hands (so he can shed blockers far more easily) and building his core muscles (to increase his overall explosiveness).

Why train in upstate New York? "It's very easy to focus in Buffalo," Mack said. The decision speaks volumes about his approach to his career in general. Mack's road to the NFL was filled with several setbacks and plenty of people who questioned if he'd ever be a difference-maker in college. The last thing he wants to do now is forget the same ideals that brought him this far in the first place.

As Mack recently leaned against a wall outside the team's training facility following an organized training activity session, it wasn't hard to see the appreciation he has for his current standing. He laughed when thinking about this time of year last season, when he walked into the locker room for his first minicamp and bumped into defensive end Justin Tuck, a veteran of 11 NFL seasons. Tuck told Mack that he was impressed with his game, then offered a bit of invaluable advice. "Whatever you do this year, just shut up and listen," Tuck said. "You're a great player but you don't have any idea of what you're doing yet."

That suggestion helped Mack understand that his road to success in pro football would come down to how well he did the little things -- such as studying film and refining his techniques -- instead of overwhelming opponents with jaw-dropping athleticism. It was a lesson quite similar to the one he learned while growing up in a deeply religious, two-parent household, with a father who worked as both a program specialist and a deacon. Sandy Mack Sr. had long ago counseled his son to spend more time listening to his elders than speaking his mind. In his father's eyes, that was the best approach for young Khalil to find his way through the hurdles that eventually would challenge him.

That combination of humility and faith helped Mack when a torn patella tendon ended his hopes of earning a basketball scholarship when he was only a sophomore at Fort Pierce Westwood high. It also meant plenty when he was a lightly regarded football recruit who wound up at Buffalo only because the coach who was previously recruiting him to Liberty University decided to take a job at that program. Of course, there's also the story of why Mack wore number 46 in college. He donned it because the video game "EA Sports College Football 10" had given him a rating of 46 (an extremely low mark) before he started his redshirt freshman season in 2010.

Mack ultimately became an All-American by his senior year and left Buffalo as the NCAA's career leader in forced fumbles and tied for career tackles for loss. "I don't know if Khalil really understood all his talents when he was in high school," said Opfer, who also has become a mentor to Mack. "He didn't go to the big [exposure] camps in the summer and he didn't play competitively until his junior and senior years. So to have that little experience and end up blowing up college football says a lot. When he started to believe he could be great, that's when he took off."

Still, all that success in college had some repercussions once Mack arrived in Oakland. When his first NFL season began, he found himself pressing to make the same splash plays that had defined him in college. " I knew the only way to make a strong impression was to make the big plays," Mack said. "But I wasn't making the same plays I was making in college when I first got here. Eventually I had to understand that this is a group effort. We all have to be involved in order to make the plays we need to make."

Just as difficult for Mack was grinding through a season during which the Raiders won only three games. He leaned on the wisdom of veterans like Tuck and Woodson but Opfer also saw a player who learned how to play the longer the season went on. "Khalil is a smart guy but he got away with being a read-and-react player in college," Opfer said. "He had so much God-given ability that he could miss a read and still react fast enough to make a play. But as last season went on, you saw his football IQ grow. He became a lot more proficient at putting himself in the best possible positions to make plays."

Mack drew plenty of praise in the process. Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll told reporters last season that Mack "jumped off the film" when his staff studied the Raiders. Former Cleveland Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer, now with Houston, said Mack was one of the best players that team faced in 2014 and added that "he gained the respect of everybody on our team." Del Rio said the Broncos had similar impressions. "Our offensive guys always wanted to know where he was," Del Rio. "That tells you a lot about what he can do."

Now the Raiders need to see even more growth as Mack heads into this coming season. The popular belief in the NFL is that players show the greatest improvement between their first and second years in the league, which means Mack should be poised for a huge leap in productivity. That goal weighed heavily on his mind whenever he strapped on a weighted vest in Buffalo this offseason and trudged toward a steep hill near the facility where he trained. Joined there by former Buffalo players such as San Diego Chargers running back Branden Oliver, Mack charged up that incline at least three times a week, all with the hopes of chiseling his thick legs and testing his willpower.

Mack had followed a similar routine in college, when he helped the Bulls grow from a program that won two games during his freshman season to one that finished second in the MAC during his senior year. A similar challenge now awaits him in Oakland. The Raiders know they still have plenty of changes to make in order to become a playoff contender. But if Mack can become the foundation of a young defense, that task will prove to be much easier.

"I can definitely say we will be relentless on defense this year," Mack said. "We're going to be dominant and physical and we're going to fly to the football. That's what this game comes down -- playing with that kind of effort. And we want to be the kind of defense that takes the ball away and gives it back to our offense as much as we possibly can."
from: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12987844/khalil-mack-poised-stardom-year-2-oakland-raiders
 
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Very sad to hear the passing of Raiders legend Ken Stabler.

RIP Snake.

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