TNA Vs Raw Predictions Plus *Massive Spoilers*

[KeepingTheFaith]

The Vince/Hart confrontion is going to be very interesting. I'm glad they didn't throw Vince, Bret and Shawn all into the one segment.

Val Venis, Nasty Boys and Orlando Jordan have all made brief on screen appearances so far in TNA along with the previously mentioned names.

So far Rhino and Beer Money have all been "laid out" backstage. After the Hogan promo it looks like Nash/Hall/Waltman.

Main event AJ V Angle for the title - I fear it'll be a no contest.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Main Events

Kofi Kingston V Orton - Orton loses he gets kicked out of Legacy
AJ Styles V Angle - TNA Title

Raw will however finish with Vince and Hart. The WWE requested extra TV time at th end of Raw from their network so it will be interesting to see what time they finish.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

McMahon kicks Hart to end Raw.

Styles retains the title and seems to be in league with Flair.

Nash/Hall/Waltman beat down Foley as Bischoff watches on

Hart aside, Raw seemed like more of the same, but that's to be expected. TNA was always going to bring something new and fresh, but a once off means nothing if they bomb the following weeks. Raw will still dominate the ratings easily.

TNA Appearances/Returns/Debuts

Hogan
Bischoff
Hall
Waltman
Orlando Jordan
Jeff Hardy
Shannon Moore
Val Venis
Flair
Nasty Boys

 

[Bicey_18]

After Raw went off the air, Bret Hart's music played as the entire Raw roster (minus DX) and The Hart Dynasty came to the ring to cheer for Bret.

Hart was put on their shoulders and paraded around the ring. The roster returned to the stage, leaving Hart in the ring. Hart took his time going around to ringside fans before waving goodbye and exiting up the ramp.

Prowrestlingscoops.com

So does that mean that was a one off appearance from Bret?

 

[Misanthrope]

Just my thoughts on TNA based on spoilers.

GOOD
- Jeff Hardy debuting. If this is a 'war', this is the first shot. This guy was massively over in WWE prior to leaving, and they seemed to have big plans for a return feud somewhere down the line
- Lots of surprises. Flair, Orlando, Nasty Boys, Waltman, Hall etc. No, none of them came in and went over TNA talent. It was just a fun, nostalgic thing to see them all.
- NWO 'reunion'. It was fun to see the originals in there, and to have Hogan use them as an example of what was 'wrong' with the business. Fun stuff. Especially loved Bischoff being back on my TV.
- Knockouts Tag Match: Take that, WWE. Awesome match.
- Samoa Joe over Abyss. Not a great match, but a good way to showcase him. Ditto Hernandez and Morgan crushing two has beens.
- Early MOTY contender. Styles vs. Angle was amazing by all accounts. As you'd expect.
- Sting in the rafters!
- Intriguing plot line with Hogan pushing the new talent and a lot of old timers objecting.

BAD
- Having a no contest in a Steel Asylum match that was going well up until that point. Why couldn't they go to a finish, showcase the division, and then have Hardy debut?
- ODB vs. Tara was WWE quality stuff. Crud.
- Clusterf**ky stuff like the attacks backstage, Foley and the Nasty Boys hogging TV time, and lots of commercials.
- Desmond Wolfe losing again. Wasn't he the next big thing?
- Changing the PPV main event. No new one announced, but apparently no Styles/Angle match.

 

[Game_Breaker]

They better give Bret an open mic

 

[PJ Marshal]

hey i notice tna isnt on fox at all today? isnt usually on at 3:30 in the arvo

 

[Bicey_18]

Although, Bret has a new shirt out, and has new theme music... more updated theme to his old one. Similar to Hart Dynasty..

He did sign a 6 month contract so maybe this isnt the last we see of Bret afterall

 

[Broncodr01d]

Is this (TNA episode as being discussed) replayed on Saturday night as per normal?

Some awesome news here, loving TNA at the moment.

As for the WWE, looking forward to the Hart angle.

 

[Game_Breaker]

Damn, the crowd was crap

First appearance in 12 years I expected better

 

[shiznit]

god damn raw sucked... f**k i hate that DX comedy crap... the best part of the night was seeing jericho kick that stupid little midget in the face.

i was hoping something would come of Orton's wanting to go with Bret... with the Hart Dynasty in the building they could have given them a mega push by having them go up against Legacy.

or even had them come out as Vince's 'Bodyguards' and attack Bret... that would have been even more shocking... maybe have DX run out and save him...

but those monkeys doing the story's have no idea...

my little bro saw TNA... he said it was far better for shocks...

 

[shiznit]

but what the hell was up during the Bret & HBK moment... f**k... that seemed awkward seeing them together. i couldnt tell if it was part of the show or not.

i haven't had a strange feeling like that since the first nWo invasion of WCW... you had no idea what the hell was happening.

 

[Game_Breaker]

The fact that Bret even agreed to come to Raw suggests they all buried the hatchet even before he signed. So they wouldve all spoken to eachother beforehand, dont buy Coles comment that this was Shawns first contact with Bret, thats just for dramatic purposes.

Given that, that doesnt mean they would all be best friends and things will go back to the way they were, its doesnt happen that fast and never that easy.

So they pretty much had to "re-do" the whole forgiveness thing for tv, and it just wasnt natural, but I got the impression that what they said was true, but forgiving eachother again for the 2nd time where you had to act it out just didnt feel right

 

[Game_Breaker]

Some pics after Raw went off air

 

[shiznit]

The fact that Bret even agreed to come to Raw suggests they all buried the hatchet even before he signed. So they wouldve all spoken to eachother beforehand, dont buy Coles comment that this was Shawns first contact with Bret, thats just for dramatic purposes.

Given that, that doesnt mean they would all be best friends and things will go back to the way they were, its doesnt happen that fast and never that easy.

So they pretty much had to "re-do" the whole forgiveness thing for tv, and it just wasnt natural, but I got the impression that what they said was true, but forgiving eachother again for the 2nd time where you had to act it out just didnt feel right

yeah i thought that would have been the case... i guess it must have felt funny because that was the first time they had been seen together since that day in 97.

there is/was a heap of animosity between the two though... its hard to believe they could truly bury the hatchet.

 

[shiznit]

Some pics after Raw went off air

yeah... heres a video.. http://www.cramthis.com/video/94/After-RAW-WWE-Superstars-Honor-Bret-Hart

 

[Broncodr01d]

Bret Hart looks good. Happy to see that. He is one of my all-time favourite wrestlers, it's good to see him welcomed back to the fold albeit not in a wrestling sense.

Agree with the comment re: DX and the comedy BS. It's lame. Embarassing even. It was "cool" I guess when they were younger, now, not so much. Doesn't suit them at all. Especially HBK. The wok eyed SOB looks old IMO. Get him out of this gimmick and do it now. End it.

Get HHH back to his heel ways ASAP too whilst we're at it.

 

[Bicey_18]

So who thinks bret will be sticking around? Or was this a one off?

 

[Broncodr01d]

I think he will be there to WM.

 

[Game_Breaker]

So who thinks bret will be sticking around? Or was this a one off?

Vince kicked him in the balls, so the story will continue

Btw, Stu Hart to be inducted into the Hall of fame, maybe a big reason why Bret came back

Maybe Owen will be inducted too