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Rumoured Signings 2014

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nick87

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The Dragons had a pretty stacked team, they needed a finisher, and they got it. Bennett didn't just leave the dragons untouched btw, quite a number of quality footballers followed him out the door too, which is why they are where they are,

That's kind of my point Kiwi, we arent doing well because we dont have any of those big name players, that's the entire point im making... those big name quality, blue chip players are far more likely to deliver success than good coaching

If you dont have the cattle, it doesnt matter how f**king good your tactics are. We need to get the cattle. Tedesco, Proctor, Korisau and Cornish are all young players who might develop into those blue chippers you need to win premierships

Cattle > Coaching. It's that simple.
Stuart's coaching wont matter a damn, we'll be successful in spite of him if our cattle has some blue chippers

Perfect example is when the Raiders went on their run in 2012... Did Furner suddenly learn how to coach? Nope. Did the players suddenly start following directions? Nope. Our gun players just hit form and started playing like guns. And we won a shit load of games.

Blue chip players trumps coaching in terms of success, in practically every sport in the world
 

BranVan3000

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Including one still under contract for next year. Unless they can get Luke to another club either Koro or McInness is out of there
Cam and Luke are both on contract next year. With a bit of forward planning there is no reason we won't have all three next year with a plan for Luke to leave.

I'd judge Cam is the one we definitely keep and right now they are really deciding between Api and Luke.
 

nick87

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Do us a f**king favor and keep Luke. Throw us a effing bone already!

I am hurting for Api, badly. God, i don't even know what it would be like to have a good hooker. I was about 14 last time we had one.
 

maple_69

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Coach is just as important as the talent in the playing squad. Bennett walked into a team that had premiership written all over it for years under Nathan Brown but he never got it done and despite the roster they often looked hopeless. Bennett walks in and things are different. You can pull examples for both arguments.
To win h premiership you typically need a good coach and a good squad and they need to fit well. I don't think Bellamy would do well at the Warriors or Tigers for example.
 

nrlnrl

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can we keep this thread for rumoured signings please ? coaching discussions are interesting but not in this thread
 

nick87

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can we keep this thread for rumoured signings please ? coaching discussions are interesting but not in this thread

You're right, we wouldn't want this thread filled with a whole lot of bullshit

*looks at the title - "Rumoured Signings 2014"*

Never mind.
 

Patorick

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That's kind of the point though isn't it?
Hagan also made another GF and was beaten by cheats. Wayne Bennett is a master coach and can't get it done at Newcastle, because their squad is busted. Tim Sheens has won 4 grand finals. Do you think he won them with superior coaching, or do you think having Stuart-Daley-Clyde-Walters-Meninga-Farah and Benji before he turned shit played a pretty big role in those?

Is Toovey a super-star coach, or does he just have a super-star team? How about Bellemy? Do you reckon they win premierships without Foran, DCE, Slater, Smith, Cronk, etc?
How about McGuire, would he be the coach he is if he didnt have Inglis and Burgess?
Much better coach than Stuart, no premierships though.
They are good coaches sure, but do you reckon Bellemy coaching the Raiders this year would produce anymore W's? I certainly dont.

Playing talent has infinitely greater impact on success than coaching IMO. Hopefully next year the Raiders are are more talented playing group
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BunniesMan

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Do us a f**king favor and keep Luke. Throw us a effing bone already!

I am hurting for Api, badly. God, i don't even know what it would be like to have a good hooker. I was about 14 last time we had one.

I'll drive to Redfern, pick Issac Luke up and drive him to Raiders HQ. Just keep your hands of Koroisau and Mcinnes.
 

Dogs Of War

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Coach is just as important as the talent in the playing squad. Bennett walked into a team that had premiership written all over it for years under Nathan Brown but he never got it done and despite the roster they often looked hopeless. Bennett walks in and things are different. You can pull examples for both arguments.
To win h premiership you typically need a good coach and a good squad and they need to fit well. I don't think Bellamy would do well at the Warriors or Tigers for example.

You need a coach that makes a gameplan for his players he has. He can have core beliefs on the basics, but ultimately you need a few things in place to be successful. Look at guys like Steve price who make the players play a game that only works if you have a big pack. Unfortunately for saints supporters he won't change his gameplan because he can't see another way to get the results.
 
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