Rumoured/Confirmed Signings and More Crap XVIII

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

It can be pulled up if it is intentionally played of the head like in the video.

Exactly. If it is played forward intentionally with the head it is a direct breach of Section 10 Rule 4: "It is illegal to head the ball in a forward direction".

 

[The EELiminator]

The NRL refs have to learn that not every dropped ball is a knock-on

no half of them are strips the refs just dont penalise them

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

a knock on has to come off the hands or arms so I reckon its no different to a kick ahead, the only issue may be the guy on his left could have been off side but thats not the issue here

some weird comments on FB, some people have no idea about the rues

You cannot head the ball forward intentionally (the rules explicitly prohibit it..see a couple of posts above).

 

[Joshuatheeel]

That's illegal, should have been no try.

 

[strider]

Exactly. If it is played forward intentionally with the head it is a direct breach of Section 10 Rule 4: "It is illegal to head the ball in a forward direction".

some people have no idea about the rules :lol: ;-)


must admit I didn't know that exact rule - but I thought there was a rule with simply stated cannot intentionally propel the ball forward except by kicking which I thought included forward passes

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

some people have no idea about the rules :lol: ;-)


must admit I didn't know that exact rule - but I thought there was a rule with simply stated cannot intentionally propel the ball forward except by kicking which I thought included forward passes

You can let the ball strike you with the knowledge that it may bounce fwd (as we see all the time from kick offs). You can't deliberately knock the ball on, and you can't deliberately throw a fwd pass (and if you are controlling the ball by 'tapping' it with your hand and in process are propelling it fwd....that is an intentional fwd pass).....

 

[Eelementary]

In case you didn't see it on FB, is this play legal ?

[youtube]a1cgQPwf1ng#t=9[/youtube]

I went yes

That's a doozy, but I'd say it's illegal, for a similar reasoning to David Peachey's deliberate knock forward when fielding a kick all those years ago which was penalised - it was deliberate and illegal IMO.

Then again, Peachey knocked the ball forward against us once and scored, and it was a try. And then a few years later, one of our players tries it on (Hayne, I think) and he gets penalised for an illegal knock forward.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Yeah against the Cowboys Hayne intentionally tapped the ball over Matt Bowen's head. Happened in 2009

 

[Forty20]

MOSSOP MOVE MURMURS

St George Illawarra have expressed interest in Parramatta's Lee Mossop in an attempt to bolster their forward pack. The English international is contracted to the Eels for next season but the blue and golds are prepared to release him to free up salary-cap space.

Injuries restricted Mossop to just three games in his NRL debut season and it would not surprise if he asked for a release to return home or join a rival Australian club.

TEEN WHIZ SNUBS KIWIS

Parramatta sensation Tepai Moeroa has knocked back a New Zealand Test jersey for this year's Four Nations tournament because of his desire to play State of Origin.

When Kiwi officials contacted the teenager's management, team Moeroa thought it was to sound him out about representing the Junior Kiwis.

However, they wanted the rising rookie to be part of their senior squad for the season-ending internationals. Moeroa was born in the Cook Islands, spent his early years in New Zealand and came to Australia at age five. However, he will play for the Blues and Kangaroos if given the opportunity at representative level.

"I could go New Zealand but I always wanted to play Origin," he said.

Clicky

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

The Roosters manage their succession planning very well and Kane Evans re-signed this year until 2017 - one of only three Roosters players currently contracted that long. He is definitely in their plans and will be in the top 17 next year, no doubt.

Robinson has already said they will focus on their young guys as their stars come off contract. They are losing Minichiello and SBW and haven't signed anyone to replace them but they will be replaced internally; Tuivasa-Sheck will replace Minichiello and losing Williams means Guerra can move to the edge permanently. That frees space in the middle for Kane Evans.

As for Galloway, he is one of the few experienced leaders in a very young Tigers club (and is contracted until 2016). No way will they let him go early. He doesn't even turn 31 until after his current contract ends.

Why would they move Guerra to the edge when they have Mitch Auberson to cover SBW departure and the likes of Willis Meehan and Vincent Lueluai fighting for a spot there. Kane Evans isn't a backrower and the Roosters style isn't one that uses 3 middle forwards. Upfront they have JWH, Moa, Nappa and FPN. Then on the bench they also carry Isaac Lui who covers the backrow and utility that will be Jackson Hastings. I was debating this with Roosters fans the other day, atm there doesn't seem like there is any space for Kane Evans.

At they Tigers, Galloway will be under pressure from rising star Matt Lodge to keep his spot. I can imagine that's why they secured a release mid season for him, to eventually replace Galloway. Aaron Woods has all the experience you need, has had like 3 seasons and has won origin. Then they have Martin Tapau who seems like a long stay for not only them but the Kiwi's. Then they have another few players who made an impact this year.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

Hayne was once juggling a ball and then whacked it forward over the top of a covering fullback, regathered and touched down but was awarded no try because you can't deliberately propel the ball forward with anything but your legs.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

Clicky

Maybe we could swap Mossop for Merrin :lol:

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Why would they move Guerra to the edge when they have Mitch Auberson to cover SBW departure and the likes of Willis Meehan and Vincent Lueluai fighting for a spot there.

WTF? Meehan and Leuluai have played one NRL game between them. They will be fighting for a chance to maybe play some first grade if there is a few injuries. Leuluai is also a front rower.

As for why move Guerra to the edge, he wore jersey 11 or 12 seven times this year, as well as twice playing centre. He also played edge forward for Queensland in games two and three.

The reason the Chooks will move him to the edge is because that is his best position and where he has more room to move.

As for Aubusson, he is a cheap utility. He played 21 games this year but only started four of them in the second row - that's about half as many as Guerra played at the same position. Aubusson started more games at centre than second row.

Kane Evans isn't a backrower and the Roosters style isn't one that uses 3 middle forwards. Upfront they have JWH, Moa, Nappa and FPN.

You say they don't use three middle forwards and then you mention Nu'uausala who, under Trent Robinson, has never worn any jersey number other than 13, 14 or 15.

They often use a prop in the 13 jersey. FPN is a case in point.

Then on the bench they also carry Isaac Lui who covers the backrow and utility that will be Jackson Hastings. I was debating this with Roosters fans the other day, atm there doesn't seem like there is any space for Kane Evans.

If they've re-signed him until 2017 they will make room for him. If not next year then definitely the two years after. He's not going anywhere.

At they Tigers, Galloway will be under pressure from rising star Matt Lodge to keep his spot.

You're kidding. Galloway is a forward leader at their club and has played almost 200 first grade games and he only just turned 29. Lodge is a teenager with four NRL appearances under his belt.

I'm sure Lodge will play more NRL than NSW Cup next year but it won't be Galloway missing out.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Hayne was once juggling a ball and then whacked it forward over the top of a covering fullback, regathered and touched down but was awarded no try because you can't deliberately propel the ball forward with anything but your legs.

He wasn't juggling. He tried to chip it over Bowen's head and he didn't kick it high enough and lightly tapped it over his head.

 

[T.S Quint]

So Moeroa says:

"I could go New Zealand but I always wanted to play Origin," he said.

And this is what annoys me.
He should be saying "I won't play for NZ because I want to play for Australia...not because he wants to play Origin. Does this mean that he would be playing for NZ if he could do both?

 

[Obscene Assassin]

S.O.O is the highest quality of football in a calender year. International league is long gone and you can't blame a player for picking Australia over N.Z because of the rules regarding S.O.O. A player can earn a lot more by playing for Australia because of S.O.O as well. Still imo being picked for Australia is a higher honour than being picked for NSW or QLD because only the best 17 get picked for the Kangaroos whereas 34 can be picked for NSW and QLD.

He's been here since he was 5 so I'd say he has more emotional ties to AUS than he does NZ.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Hayne was once juggling a ball and then whacked it forward over the top of a covering fullback, regathered and touched down but was awarded no try because you can't deliberately propel the ball forward with anything but your legs.

Did you read any of the posts above? Yes, it is true that you can't intentionally propel the ball forward with your hands (that's either an intentional knock-on or fwd pass), and there is an explicit rule that prohibits intentionally 'heading' the ball forward. But, there is no rule that says that you cannot deliberately propel the ball fwd with anything but your hands. That is just a (slightly inaccurate) generalisation that people have made based on a set of rules. There's nothing in the rules that prevents a player, for instance, intentionally knocking the ball forward with their chest. This is neither a knock on, intentional knock on, forward pass or intentional forward pass. Nobody does it (other than to control a ball when receiving a kick) because there's no conceivable advantage in doing so.

 

[Eelementary]

Did you read any of the posts above? Yes, it is true that you can't intentionally propel the ball forward with your hands (that's either an intentional knock-on or fwd pass), and there is an explicit rule that prohibits intentionally 'heading' the ball forward. But, there is no rule that says that you cannot deliberately propel the ball fwd with anything but your hands. That is just a (slightly inaccurate) generalisation that people have made based on a set of rules. There's nothing in the rules that prevents a player, for instance, intentionally knocking the ball forward with their chest. This is neither a knock on, intentional knock on, forward pass or intentional forward pass. Nobody does it (other than to control a ball when receiving a kick) because there's no conceivable advantage in doing so.

I think the referees would penalise it, too.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I think the referees would penalise it, too.

Penalise what? Here are the rules:

"SECTION 10
KNOCK-ON AND FORWARD PASS
Deliberate 1. A player shall be penalised if he deliberately knocks on or passes forward.
Accidental 2. If, after knocking-on accidentally, the player knocking-on regains or kicks the ball before it
touches the ground, a goal post, cross bar or an opponent, then play shall be allowed to proceed.
Otherwise play shall stop and a scrum shall be formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.
Charge-down 3. To charge-down a kick is permissible and is not a knock-on.
Heading the ball 4. It is illegal to head the ball in a forward direction."

and the relevant definition of terms:
"KNOCK-ON means to knock the ball towards the opponents’ dead
ball line with hand or arm, while playing at the ball."

Both from:

http://www.nrl.com/portals/nrl/RadEditor/Documents/NRL%20Rules%20book%202013FINAL.pdf

 

[TheRam]

SBW'S NEED FOR SPEED
Sonny Bill Williams wasted no time getting into shape for his next big challenge, his switch back to rugby. Rather than wallowing in the pain of a finals loss to South Sydney, SBW joined Parramatta's Will Hopoate in a session with sprint guru Roger Fabri.
This pic, taken from Fabri's Instagram account, suggests Williams will take some stopping, even with two extra players on the field.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-treasures-20141004-10qa9a.html#ixzz3FDVa0qm9


Lets all hope that Fabri performs a minor miracle and finds Hopa an extra couple of metres speed. Heaven knows he needs it or else he will be a hoax buy for us considering the money he is on.
​