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1st Semi-Final: New Zealand v South Africa at Auckland Mar 24, 2015

shiznit

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An interesting 5 overs here... He doesn't have Boult, Vettori and Henry.

He's got 2 overs of Southee but 3 overs of Anderson and part timers...

What s review by the black caps!!
 

KeepingTheFaith

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I know it seems ridiculous the way he gets his wickets, but at the end of the day if we can have a 5th bowling option who averages mid 30's with the bat, under 30 with the ball at a RR of 6 per over. Meh, I think most teams would take that in this day and age.
 

undertaker

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Even though I go for NZ, it's not hard to feel a little for SA. Big disadvantage.

The other thing D/L doesn't seem to take into consideration enough is that with only 43 overs to bat NZ doesn't necessarily need to consolidate wickets as much as you would in a 50 over game.

We saw the Windies make 250 in 30 odd overs in the quarter final just going for it from the start. They were never going to win and lost wickets in the process, but the less overs there are the more wickets become less of an issue for the batting side.

100% agree with the part in bold.

I understand the point some make about wanting to finish the match today where possible. However, at what point do you go from giving NZ the minimum 20 overs to chase the target, to using the reserve day and allowing NZ the maximum possible no. of overs the next day? Where do you draw that line? Why have a reserve day in that case if you aren't going to use it?

Nevertheless, South Africa currently on 226 with 3.5 overs to go. Whatever they end up getting, after the target is adjusted for D/L, will be very difficult to chase down in these conditions. In a lot of ways, that is an advantage to batting first
 

KeepingTheFaith

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I think it's made it harder, but NZ will still have to chase around 6.5 from the start of their innings. If SA bowl well they should still be able to defend that.
 

vvvrulz

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I know it seems ridiculous the way he gets his wickets, but at the end of the day if we can have a 5th bowling option who averages mid 30's with the bat, under 30 with the ball at a RR of 6 per over. Meh, I think most teams would take that in this day and age.

Like McClenaghan the numbers are a red herring, if he has a long enough career I expect that bowling average to shoot up.
 

vvvrulz

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I was worried about Southee and the rest of the guys in the West Indies game, it's showing here.
He's out of form and Miller is cleaning him up.
 

undertaker

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NZ have the talent in their side, but the inexperience really showed in that Southee over. Got absolutely spanked all over the park
 

KeepingTheFaith

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Like McClenaghan the numbers are a red herring, if he has a long enough career I expect that bowling average to shoot up.

But until it does what can you do? It's his spot to lose, and as long as his batting holds (questionable in itself) we have other options for 5th bowler.
 

WaznTheGreat

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Where dat Kiwi dude that said Southee/Boult the greatest bowling duo ever,Southee has been a disgrace ever since he said that.
 

vvvrulz

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But until it does what can you do? It's his spot to lose, and as long as his batting holds (questionable in itself) we have other options for 5th bowler.

Oh no I wouldn't dump him or anyone in this team, this is the best we've got.
Possibly Neesham?

Just pointing out what Anderson is, a pretty average bowler and as you say even a questionable batsman.
 

undertaker

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Southee is experienced enough...

Not in the 'big' matches.

Reminds me of Parramatta's 2001 side: had the talent, but their inexperienced side (only Solomona had played in a GF, and a losing one) came up on the big day against a side that had several players who'd 'been there, done that'
 

Iafeta

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The run is over lads, was good while it lasted. Corey Anderson fair dinkum, its a joke that they consider this guy their 'death' bowler. He bowls a variety of pies really.

I also thought McCullums over attacking nature would eventually destroy them.
 

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