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They just need to play hard and not f**k around outside of footy and they can enjoy a long, storied career.

Why is that so hard to follow?

Because they have access to too much money at a young age. I suggest that a large percent of their earnings be put into a trust account set up like a supper account. This account can be drawn on once the player attains the age of 30 or when the trustee is convinced to let it be drawn down at an earlier age.
 

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Interesting read....
TV star's case shows why ARLC shouldn't 'sterilise' de Belin services

Roy MastersFebruary 25, 2019 — 4.00pm
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Before ARL Commission chair Peter Beattie confronts the Dragons and the RLPA in separate meetings on Tuesday over his widely publicised demand Jack de Belin be stood down, he should consider the case of television presenter Tracey Curro.

In 1993, Curro broke her contract with Beyond Productions to join 60 Minutes but the critical point the court established was that she needed to keep her name and talents before the viewing public.


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The case against: Let courts decide, but if de Belin guilty, ban him
Read the extract from the NSW Court of Appeal 1993 decision and substitute de Belin for Curro and St George Illawarra for Beyond: "... she was entitled to be given work of appropriate quality to keep her name and talent before the public with reasonable frequency. In our opinion, Beyond had no contractual right to sterilise Miss Curro’s services and keep her away from the viewing public.

"On the contrary, any attempt by Beyond to act in that way would be a repudiatory breach entitling Miss Curro to rescind and sue for damages.’’

Should Beattie, therefore, order the Dragons to stand de Belin down, or convince the ARLC board to instruct NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg to do so, de Belin’s lawyers can injunct the club/code.


Not only is the Curro case inconsistent with the idea that it is appropriate to sterilise the player’s career, simply because he is facing criminal charges. The two years Curro would have been without "real work" also dovetails with the same period of De Belin’s career that would be lost.

It’s not only the courts which have established the link between sportspeople and entertainers. Over 30 years ago, the late American social critic Christopher Lasch described the full-time athlete as a new class of worker produced by the "information age", an entertainer who sells his or her skills for money in the same way songwriters and sound technicians do.

RLPA chief executive Ian Prendergast, like Beattie, is a lawyer. He may remember an expression made famous in a 60 Minutes episode hosted by Curro. It was the occasion Curro interviewed Pauline Hanson and asked the One Nation leader whether she was xenophobic.

Should Beattie demand de Belin be stood down, Prendergast and St George Illawarra’s legal team could point to the judgment in the Curro case and answer in the same way Hanson did: "Please explain."


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ARL Commission announces 'no-fault stand down policy' for players facing serious charges
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Thu 28 Feb 2019, 03:05 PM

ARL Commission chairman Peter Beattie and NRL CEO Todd Greenberg have announced there has been unanimous agreement from the Commission that there will be a "no-fault stand down" for players who are charged with serious criminal offences.

Beattie and Greenberg addressed the media at Rugby League Central to announce the outcome of Thursday morning's annual general meeting.

Greenberg said Dragons forward Jack de Belin, who is facing sexual assault allegations, would be the first player stood down under the new policy and the CEO stressed it was not a judgement on his guilt or innocence. De Belin has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

"He'll be stood down under the no fault policy. He cannot play until the completion of that case," Greenberg said.

"This policy ensures he doesn't play but he can be around the team, be at training during the week and most importantly can take the services of that club via the welfare and services available to him. We think it's important for the club and player to have the opportunity to continue in the environment."

The chairman said the ARL was setting a benchmark for all players to protect rugby league.

Beattie and Greenberg announce new policy for criminal charges

"We've spent a considerable amount of time working on what's in the best interests of rugby league," Beattie said.

"I want to make it clear this is no fault, we're making no judgement whatsoever, in relation to any player charged with any offence. What we're doing is setting a benchmark and standard for the game of rugby league.

"We do have a responsibility of player welfare and we want to have a clear partnership with all clubs. They'll be able to train with the team."

Beattie said the criminal offences that apply to this rule are serious offences with a minimum jail term of 11 years or more.

"This is not about being popular, this is about sending a clear message the game does not tolerate violence, against women or children. Our job is to rebuild the reputation and protect the game. That reputation has been damaged by recent events. This is about a standard that's expected."

Greenberg said he would use this policy sparingly.

"I remind everyone here that rugby league is far greater than the Telstra Premiership. We've got obligations to millions of fans," he said.

"Our game is full of unbelievably talented, caring and kind footballers. Majority of our players do some amazing things off the field. They are truly inspirational and I see it every day in every way.

"None of us for a minute should forget how good our players are and the work they do in the community. Yes, occasionally we have issues with players and we'll deal with it, but geez don't walk away thinking rugby league players aren't doing the right thing and we should always put that at the top of our mind."

This is not about being popular, this is about sending a clear message the game does not tolerate violence, against women or children.

Peter Beattie
Dragons CEO Brian Johnston has already made a statement to say his club was supportive of the NRL's stance about player misbehaviour.

He said the club was "very, very concerned" about the welfare of de Belin. Johnston was due to meet with key officials this afternoon to discuss its response to the ARL Commission's meeting.

"I'm very supportive of the NRL to improve player behaviour and propagate the game of rugby league. What we're dealing with is a very complex and polarising subject regarding Jack de Belin," he said.

"But above all we've been guided by the legal system, the NRL rules and code of conduct. Above all we are very, very concerned about the welfare of Jack de Belin, that's our priority at the present stage.

"We're about to head off now and give consideration to the changes the NRL are making to the rules so we can digest that and clearly understand what it means."

Dragons CEO raises concerns over Jack de Belin welfare

When asked about Manly centre Dylan Walker, who is facing domestic violence charges, Greenberg said: "We'll satisfy ourselves over the coming days and make our decision."

Beattie said to not to take these measures would have been "an act of cowardice".

"We need to work on the cultural change. We've got to prevent this happening in the first place," he said.

"I have been very cautious of comments I've made but if you're chairman of Australian rugby league [you have to be]. You all know that these series of events were damaging to the game. We have to be seen by our fans and community that we're doing something about it.

"We wanted to see whether the existing old rules worked, and they didn't, they clearly didn't. We had to make a change to the rules.

"It was all the events off field, one or two of these events we would've let through the process but we ended up with a tsunami."

Greenberg added he would be announcing the sanctions for recent integrity issues involving NRL clubs on Friday.

Rugby League Players’ Association chief executive Ian Prendergast released a statement on Thursday to express his disappointment about the ARL Commission's change in policy.

"The ramifications for players will be substantial – both those who are currently defending charges and those who may be subject to the same situation in the future," he said.

"Whilst we respect the Commission’s view that this is a ‘no fault’ policy, the reality is that standing down a player indefinitely can impact on the fundamental principle of the presumption of innocence and may prejudice the legal process.

"As we have consistently stated, this change will do irreparable damage to the player and his employment.

"Professional athletes already have short careers and waiting for the conclusion of a court case would significantly impact, and in some cases, end their time in the game.

"The RLPA reaffirms its stance that strong action needs to be taken against any player or official found guilty of violence against women – it has no place in our game or society.

"However, until such time as there is objective proof of such conduct, we do not believe the game can or should act."

The recent negativity surrounding player misbehaviour has drawn attention away from the NRL's financial gains.

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Dragons lock Jack de Belin. :copyright:Paul Barkley/NRL Photos
The NRL's financial report was handed down at the ARL annual general meeting.

A year after the NRL needed to seek a loan following successive financial losses, the game’s governing body has delivered a stunning turn-around to announce a $46 million profit on the back of increased broadcast, sponsorship and digital revenue.

Total consolidated revenue for the 2018 season was $499.9 million – a 40 per cent increase from the $377 the game earned in 2017 when the NRL recorded a $3.7 million net loss.

While most of the gain came from broadcast revenue of $318 million, non-broadcast revenue also grew by 21 per cent or $30.9 million last year, while costs were down.


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/201...wn-policy-for-players-facing-serious-charges/
 

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De Belin stood down under new rule for off-field incidents
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Thu 28 Feb 2019, 01:58 PM

NRL CEO Todd Greenberg has announced St George Illawarra forward Jack de Belin as the first player to be banned from playing under the new 'no fault stood down policy' announced on Thursday.

De Belin, who is facing sexual assault allegations, has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

"He'll be stood down under the no fault policy. He cannot play until the completion of that case," Greenberg said.

"This policy ensures he doesn't play but can continue to train."

Dragons CEO Brian Johnston made a statement before Greenberg announced the move to say his club was supportive of the NRL's stance about player misbehaviour.

He said the club was "very, very concerned" about the welfare of de Belin. Johnston was due to meet with key officials this afternoon to discuss its response to the ARL Commission's meeting.

Dragons CEO raises concerns over Jack de Belin welfare

"I'm very supportive of the NRL to improve player behaviour and propagate the game of rugby league. What we're dealing with is a very complex and polarising subject regarding Jack de Belin," he said.

"But above all we've been guided by the legal system, the NRL rules and code of conduct. Above all we are very, very concerned about the welfare of Jack de Belin, that's our priority at the present stage.

"We're about to head off now and give consideration to the changes the NRL are making to the rules so we can digest that and clearly understand what it means."

Beattie and Greenberg announce new policy for criminal charges

When asked about Manly centre Dylan Walker, who is facing domestic violence charges, Greenberg said: "We'll satisfy ourselves over the coming days and make our decision."

Cowboys forward Scott Bolton could also face time on the sidelines after pleading guilty to a charge of assault.

"That will fall into a discretion," Greenberg said of Bolton. "At the time whether or not the game and myself under the rules determine that to be something he should be stood down for as opposed to allowing that process to be completed."

Greenberg held a meeting with de Belin on Wednesday and was tight-lipped about what transpired.

"I'd prefer to keep the conversation private but I wanted to convey to him personally the direction the game was heading. It was a difficult conversation," he said.


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/201...-down-under-new-rule-for-off-field-incidents/
 

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De Belin banned as NRL address culture
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    St George Illawarra player Jack de Belin has been stood down by the NRL as his court case continues.
    Jack de Belin has been stood down after the ARL Commission announced controversial changes to its behavioural policy that it claims can fix the game's broken culture.

    But the raft of measures could still be met with opposition, with St George Illawarra considering their position on the matter and the Rugby League Players Association expected to oppose the changes.

    De Belin, who has pleaded not guilty to aggravated sexual assault, became the first player to be stood down under what the NRL claimed was a "no-fault" policy on Thursday that showed no indication of guilt.

    The new rules, announced by ARL Commission chairman Peter Beattie, will see players facing charges which carry a jail term of 11 years or more to be stood down.

    The NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg also has the discretion to stand down players facing other serious charges, including violence against women and children.

    It comes after an off-season which has included 17 off-field incidents and scandals at the rate of almost one every 10 days.

    "I do (believe this can change the culture)," Beattie said.

    "Because this is the first time we've actually got a rule with teeth.

    "It's a rule that can bring about cultural change.

    "It's a rule that says to everyone in the game that you have got to behave.

    "At the end of it all we've got to have standards and values. We've sent out a message."

    The policy change had been strenuously opposed by the RLPA before the announcement, which says it will prejudice the players' right to a fair trial.

    They have already indicated they will support any player who wishes to exercise their legal rights.

    "This is not uncommon in many work places," Greenberg said.

    "If you are facing very serious criminal charges in a lot of work places you will step down. This is a no-fault stance."

    Beattie claimed the changes had been supported by 15 of the NRL's 16 clubs chairs.

    However the Dragons said they would consider the changes made by the game's decision makers and they were concerned for the NSW State of Origin forward's welfare.

    "I'm very supportive of the desire of the NRL to improve player behaviour and propagate the game of rugby league," Dragons chief executive Brian Johnston said.

    "What we're dealing with is a very polarising and complex subject regarding Jack de Belin.

    "Above all we're being guided by the legal system, the NRL rules and code of conduct. And above all we're very concerned about the welfare of Jack de Belin. That's our priority.

    "We're about to head off now and give consideration to the changes the NRL are making to the rules so we can digest that."

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    https://www.theleader.com.au/story/5928972/de-belin-banned-as-nrl-address-culture/?cs=13068
 

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NRL stand down Jack de Belin as Cronulla Sharks await salary cap probe outcome
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    Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Beattie and NRL CEO Todd Greenberg face the media in Sydney on Thursday. Picture: Mick Tsikas/AAP Image
    The NRL have stood down Dragons forward Jack de Belin after the governing body announced a major change to the game's disciplinary policy.

    The Australian Rugby League Commission handed down new protocols for players accused of serious crimes.

    Under the new policy, any player who is charged with an offence that carries a maximum prison term of 11 years or more will be automatically stood down.

    NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg also has discretionary power to stand down players charged with offences involving the assault of women or children. Players will be allowed to continue to train with their teams and remain on full pay.

    De Belin has pleaded not guilty to a charge of aggravated sexual assault in Wollongong court. The 27-year-old now faces time an extended period out of the game until his court case has concluded.

    The 'no-fault' policy implemented by the ARLC differs from the previous policy, where players who pleaded not guilty to alleged offences were allowed to continue playing while their matter underwent the legal process.

    Clubs will not automatically receive salary cap relief but can apply for it.

    Greenberg met with de Belin at St George Leagues Club on Wednesday to outline the change in policy to the NSW representative forward.

    "We think it's important that the club and the player have the opportunity for him to continue in the environment," Greenberg said.

    "Again, it's a no fault stand down. This policy ensures that he doesn't play but he can be around the team and he can be at training during the week and also, importantly, take the services of that club via it's welfare and education program."

    ARLC chairman Peter Beattie said player welfare was still important under the new system.

    "I rang all the club chairs and 15 out of 16 were supportive of this provision," he said.

    "But one of the things they did raise and that includes when we met with St George was player welfare. And they clearly see being able to train as a key part of player welfare."

    De Belin missed St George Illawarra's opening trial against Newcastle last weekend with a virus. Dragons coach Paul McGregor initially indicated de Belin would be available for Saturday's Charity Shield clash with South Sydney but was then left out by the club for player welfare reasons.

    Beattie said the commission were acting in the sport's best interests - now and into the future.

    “The change has occurred after extensive consultation across the community and amongst stakeholders," he said.

    “As chairman, my responsibility and the responsibility of my fellow commissioners, is to act in the best interests of the entire game and to take a leadership position when it comes to acts of violence against women in particular.

    “What we have heard are community concerns about players facing serious criminal charges representing the game on the field and today the ARLC has acted on those concerns.

    “The policy addresses charges which are of particular concern to the game and the broader community, including sexual violence and violence against women.

    “That includes the present game and the future game.

    “It also includes protecting and supporting the well-being of those entrusted to us as part of our game. That includes players and their families, clubs, sponsors and fans.

    “Today, the commission has acted with those interests top of mind. And we are supported by Todd and his leadership team along with club chairs and CEOs.”

    While the NRL have stood de Belin down under the new policy, Greenberg said a decision was yet to be made on Manly centre Dylan Walker who has pleaded not guilty to charges of assaulting his fiancee.

    “I stress that the NRL is making no judgement on the guilt or innocence of the player,” Greenberg said.

    “That is not our role. That is the job of the courts and it will remain so.

    “But we have to be in a position to take action when allegations are so serious that it would damage the reputation of the game if that player was allowed to take the field.

    “And that is what we have done in [de Belin's] case.

    “We have to take a leadership position to protect our game. And that is what we will do with a change of policy in place."

    Meanwhile, no announcement was made on the outcome of the salary cap probe into Cronulla.

    Cronulla were expected to learn their fate for alleged salary cap cheating on Thursday with the NRL to hand down its findings after an Australian Rugby League Commission meeting.

    The Sharks are prepared for more heavy sanctions after the NRL's probe reportedly uncovered more discrepancies than those self-reported by Cronulla to the integrity unit in June last year.

    Cronulla's punishment is expected to include a significant fine as well as possible salary cap penalties.

    A decision is expected to be made public on Friday.



    https://www.theleader.com.au/story/...n-as-sharks-await-salary-cap-outcome/?cs=1633
 

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RLPA statement - Ian Prendergast
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Thu 28 Feb 2019, 03:27 PM

Rugby League Players' Association (RLPA) Chief Executive Officer Ian Prendergast has released the following statement:

"The RLPA is disappointed in the decision made by the Australian Rugby League Commission today to alter a policy that will directly impact on the employment rights of its members," Mr. Prendergast said.

"The ramifications for players will be substantial – both those who are currently defending charges and those who may be subject to the same situation in the future.

"Whilst we respect the Commission’s view that this is a ‘no fault’ policy, the reality is that standing down a player indefinitely can impact on the fundamental principle of the presumption of innocence and may prejudice the legal process.

"As we have consistently stated, this change will do irreparable damage to the player and his employment.

"Professional athletes already have short careers and waiting for the conclusion of a court case would significantly impact, and in some cases, end their time in the game.

"We respect that the Commission have a difficult task handling what is a complex issue and are doing what they believe is in the best interests of the game.

"There is no option that sits comfortably with everyone, and we recognise the risks to the game.

However, we maintain that the current policy is the fairest and most sensible approach.

"It remains our view that any policy change must be agreed with the RLPA.

"Whilst we have been consulted, it is obvious that we do not agree to the proposed changes.

"That is a matter we will engage the Commission and NRL on in the coming days and weeks, as well as considering our options legally and through the CBA dispute process.

"As always, we will support our members to explore any legal options they may have available to them.

"We are not ignorant to the hurt that these matters cause the game and are committed to working with the NRL and Clubs to repair the damage that has been done.

However, we continue to query whether this change will genuinely have the desired impact of rebuilding public trust and confidence in the game.

"We also believe that there are a range of strategic initiatives that will have a far greater impact than this policy change on improving professional standards within the game and reducing integrity-related incidents..

"The RLPA reaffirms its stance that strong action needs to be taken against any player or official found guilty of violence against women – it has no place in our game or society.

"However, until such time as there is objective proof of such conduct, we do not believe the game can or should act.

"To clarify what options may be pursued by the RLPA and in response to various media reports – industrial action is not something that the Association has considered in relation to this issue."


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2019/02/28/rlpa-statement---ian-prendergast/
 

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Dragons respond to ARLC policy change
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Thu 28 Feb 2019, 03:39 PM

St George Illawarra Dragons CEO Brian Johnston and player Jack de Belin have made the following statements, in response to the NRL's decision to change the NRL policy and stand down Jack de Belin.

Brian Johnston, Chief Executive Officer

"We understand and support the Commission’s desire to improve the standards of player behaviour and propagate the game,” said Dragons CEO Brian Johnston.

"This is a very complex and difficult issue that impacts many stakeholders.

"To date we have been guided by the NRL rules and code of conduct, in addition to advice suggesting any action taken by the club could interfere with the judicial process.

"Given the change today, we need time to digest this information and consider the implications for our club.

"Duty of care has always been a priority for us and we have great concern for Jack’s welfare. We will continue to provide him with the necessary support and welfare he needs throughout this legal process.

"I would also like to take this opportunity to thank our stakeholders, including sponsors, members and fans for their support of our process."

Jack de Belin, Player

"Rugby league has always been a big part of my life, I love the game.

"I am innocent and will vigorously defend the charge against me.

"I want to thank my partner, family, friends, the club, members, sponsors and fans for the support they have given me during this difficult time."


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2019/02/28/dragons-respond-to-arlc-policy-change/
 

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The question is, what happens if he is judged innocent?

We all know what happens if he is guilty.

I read somewhere that this may take 18 months to sort out. That puts him on the sidelines for this season and next season.

It basically ends his career really. 2 years out he will not regain the same form. Especially not straight away. And 18 months will coincide with contract ending. So how does he show his worth if he hasn't played a game in 2 years?

Jack, if he is judged innocent, will sue everyone involved in standing him down. And he would have very good grounds. This is his job and he has been stopped from doing it thereby affecting his future earnings potential. Not to mention origin payments he could say he would have been afforded.

Plus the question is do the dragons sue the NRL too? He was a big part of our team last year. We have lost him and can't exactly replace him now. So does that affect our performance? Yes! And if we can show it has damaged our revenue or brand in one way or another then we could sue. They should also think about it should he be judged not guilty.
 

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The NRL seem determined to further empower the biased and manipulative reporting of News corp and their huge media empire, Foxtel etc. I would like to see the RLPA and players stand up for Jack and their rights with possible strike action as they did when they wanted a pay increase. It would have also been nice if the NRL had adopted their previous approach towards it not being played out in the media ;

"Smith says the players will refuse to back down from fighting for a bigger slice of the pie than what they’re being offered."

"NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg refuted Smith’s claims, saying he didn’t want the issue played out in the media."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ne...e/news-story/2648d949f3e9f2603981b48aa932747a
 
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