Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[betcats]

A team full of mediocre talent will end up with mediocre results.

I’m kinda stunned people would balk at recruiting someone with genuine superstar ability.

Yeah, Edwards is good value for money. But Edwards isn’t making the difference between us winning the title or not. Neither are most of our players. We’re a middling team as it stands.



You don’t win premierships without a star someone in your spine.

You wont win one with a lazy guy like Latrel being your highest paid player IMO. Its a culture killer.

 

[herbert henry1908]

He has been tried at FB, it ended with him being dropped. Teddy isn't the only reason he got moved to the centres.

He was 18 when he last played fullback.

and he wasn’t dropped, he was moved to the wing.

 

[ACTPanthers]

A team full of mediocre talent will end up with mediocre results.

I’m kinda stunned people would balk at recruiting someone with genuine superstar ability.

Yeah, Edwards is good value for money. But Edwards isn’t making the difference between us winning the title or not. Neither are most of our players. We’re a middling team as it stands.



You don’t win premierships without a star someone in your spine.

You also don't win premierships trying to fit "stars" into spine positions - Doesn't matter who plays FB if our other outside backs are useless. Teams need balance, as well as genuine talent, which is why I think centre is a more important role to fill at this stage of the teams development.

 

[herbert henry1908]

You wont win one with a lazy guy like Latrel being your highest paid player IMO. Its a culture killer.

The risk is low.

even if you paid him $1m, you’d find another club willing to take him as a centre for 700-800k.

 

[herbert henry1908]

You also don't win premierships trying to fit "stars" into spine positions - Doesn't matter who plays FB if our other outside backs are useless. Teams need balance, as well as genuine talent, which is why I think centre is a more important role to fill at this stage of the teams development.

He played Fullback all through the juniors, it’s not a matter of forcing him into a position he doesn’t know.

 

[ACTPanthers]

He played Fullback all through the juniors, it’s not a matter of forcing him into a position he doesn’t know.

I never said he doesn't know the position... what I did say was that given our current team makeup, centre is a position we NEED to fill with someone of talent.

 

[betcats]

The risk is low.

even if you paid him $1m, you’d find another club willing to take him as a centre for 700-800k.

Disagree. he'd rather be on a property in the bush kicking back, He is already taking time off midseason to jet back to taree and that is while playing for the best team. Giving him a huge contract to play a position he wasn't good enough for the roosters is a huge risk. I can see the upside of it, maybe id be more keen if he was playing FB regularly.

 

[age.s]

Latrell is a freak. Hard to know for sure but I'd put plenty of money on him ending up an awesome fullback if he put in.

Where he plays is secondary to how he plays though. A lazy, disinterested, unfit fullback on huge money is just as bad as a lazy, disinterested, unfit centre on huge money.

 

[betcats]

If he put in he would definitely be a great fullback. But there are question marks about him putting in.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Disagree. he'd rather be on a property in the bush kicking back, He is already taking time off midseason to jet back to taree and that is while playing for the best team. Giving him a huge contract to play a position he wasn't good enough for the roosters is a huge risk. I can see the upside of it, maybe id be more keen if he was playing FB regularly.

He wasn’t good enough at 18 years of age, it was a position he played throughout his juniors.

plus if he wanted to leave and go bush he could, players are being released on compassionate grounds nowadays. Just voids the contract.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Disagree. he'd rather be on a property in the bush kicking back, He is already taking time off midseason to jet back to taree and that is while playing for the best team. Giving him a huge contract to play a position he wasn't good enough for the roosters is a huge risk. I can see the upside of it, maybe id be more keen if he was playing FB regularly.

I've heard on the quiet that Latrell is a problem child, especially off the field. Brother took the rap for the family behaviour at Old Bar bowlo ( Latrell was on song that night). Penrith can ill afford to have someone in the club like this. Think Craig Gower and then twice as bad with a chip on his shoulder. I'd prefer DWZ (in current form and ego in check ) to this bloke.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I never said he doesn't know the position... what I did say was that given our current team makeup, centre is a position we NEED to fill with someone of talent.

You wouldn’t say the same if we could nab an established fullback though, would you? What if we could sign Turbo?

Now obviously Latrell is a bigger risk than that, but worst case is he moves to centre and we’re overpaying him 200k.

I can live with that for the possible reward of singing a genuine star.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I've heard on the quiet that Latrell is a problem child, especially off the field. Brother took the rap for the family behaviour at Old Bar bowlo ( Latrell was on song that night). Penrith can ill afford to have someone in the club like this. Think Craig Gower and then twice as bad with a chip on his shoulder. I'd prefer DWZ (in current form and ego in check ) to this bloke.

Twice as bad as Gower?!

You’re having a laugh.

Gower was one of the loosest units ever.

 

[herbert henry1908]

LOL

DWZ over Latrell Mitchell.

take me now, I’ve heard it all.

 

[betcats]

He wasn’t good enough at 18 years of age, it was a position he played throughout his juniors.

plus if he wanted to leave and go bush he could, players are being released on compassionate grounds nowadays. Just voids the contract.

He turned twenty in 2017 and was on the wing behind 33yo Michael Gordon.

 

[herbert henry1908]

He turned twenty in 2017 and was on the wing behind 33yo Michael Gordon.

He was playing fullback in 2016, not 2017.

He’d just turned 19 when he played his final game at fullback.

Michael Gordon wasn’t even at the roosters in 2016.

 

[betcats]

He was playing fullback in 2016, not 2017.

He’d just turned 19 when he played his final game at fullback.

Michael Gordon wasn’t even at the roosters in 2016.

And they went out and got him for 2017 cause they didn't have faith in Latrell playing FB. Has he gotten less lazy since then? Is he fitter? The eye test says no.

To play fullback he would have to come here and work harder then he currently is at the roosters, I don't care how much money we throw at him that just isn't going to happen.

 

[ACTPanthers]

You wouldn’t say the same if we could nab an established fullback though, would you? What if we could sign Turbo?

Now obviously Latrell is a bigger risk than that, but worst case is he moves to centre and we’re overpaying him 200k.

I can live with that for the possible reward of singing a genuine star.

No I wouldn't, and I'd be daft if I did. But... there is a big difference between signing an established FB, who has succeeded in that position, to pushing an elite centre into the role simply because you don't think the current FB is as good. Like I've said, if we signed Mitchell as a FB where does our strike power come from in the other outside back positions? We could have a world class FB, and still lose. We NEED balance, this is what I'm trying to say. I'd take Mitchell at centre in a heartbeat, even though I think signing him is a risk, it's a risk we should probably take... IMO obviously.

 

[herbert henry1908]

And they went out and got him for 2017 cause they didn't have faith in Latrell playing FB.

Yes, they felt a 19yo wasn’t ready.

So?

Not many guys are ready to play such a key position at that age.

 

[betcats]

Yes, they felt a 19yo wasn’t ready.

So?

Not many guys are ready to play such a key position at that age.

His issues were fitness and laziness, these are still issues for him. the guy concedes a linebreak in the GF and he cant be bothered to turn and chase. He is my favourite player when he is having a go, but anyone who bludges in origins and GFs is a risk.