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Gary Gutful

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But isn’t that good science? The ability to accept new studies and technology? Surely dismissing him because he changed his view is a pretty lame position as science itself changes almost on a daily basis. How does that make his opinion illegitimate or unworthy ?
If only we could get our chief scientists to talk about science.

I'm referring more to his various positions on the role of brown or blue hydrogen versus green hydrogen and the political posturing associated with said positions.
 

Bazal

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If only we could get our chief scientists to talk about science.

I'm referring more to his various positions on the role of brown or blue hydrogen versus green hydrogen and the political posturing associated with said positions.

What a racist.

I don't even see colour when it comes to hydrogen
 

Poupou Escobar

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If only we could get our chief scientists to talk about science.

I'm referring more to his various positions on the role of brown or blue hydrogen versus green hydrogen and the political posturing associated with said positions.
You don't get anywhere near the top in government unless you're a politician. That goes for soldiers, spooks and even scientists.
 
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Nah, it was pretty transparent to all that us getting involved with ETimor was all about resources. Howards motivation was their sovereign oil and gas reserves. East Timor was our gulf war (which Howard also participated).

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...esponse-to-indonesian-invasion-of-timor-leste

The notion of a Deep State is that there is a hidden level of government that transcends borders and manipulates decisions notwithstanding who is in power. The above article shows that documents obtained from FOI revealed a targeted cash grab by the government of the day. The only “deep state” in that story are the tentacles of the fossil fuel industry. Ironically we have a history of helping these corporations like Santos who operate now in East Timor, yet pay no tax.

The resource industry in general, not just fossil fuels. Uranium is a big one, too.

And they're all tightly woven with the arms industry and the drugs industry.

They're all one big cash grab, and they're all run by the "Deep State". Just look at Biden and the Ukraine (and who else had children on Ukrainian energy boards?)
 

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The resource industry in general, not just fossil fuels. Uranium is a big one, too.

And they're all tightly woven with the arms industry and the drugs industry.

They're all one big cash grab, and they're all run by the "Deep State". Just look at Biden and the Ukraine (and who else had children on Ukrainian energy boards?)
If you are conceding that the Deep State is in fact big tobacco, big oil and big macs lobbying, bribing, blackmailing and manipulating the dumb or corrupt politicians - then that’s very disappointing. I thought that the Deep State were the Clintons, Souros, Obama, British Royal Family, leftard elites, the lizard people and international peodophile sex traffickers.
 

Bazal

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Damn, I thought he was talking about Deep Heat.

I figured he did some weird sexual shit with it...

I thought he was talking about Deep Impact. We all know mediocre movies from the late nineties are really what runs the world
 
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If you are conceding that the Deep State is in fact big tobacco, big oil and big macs lobbying, bribing, blackmailing and manipulating the dumb or corrupt politicians - then that’s very disappointing. I thought that the Deep State were the Clintons, Souros, Obama, British Royal Family, leftard elites, the lizard people and international peodophile sex traffickers.


It's all of them.

Clinton sold her office and used the Clinton Foundation as the payment scheme, just look at Uranium One.

And the sex trafficking is as much about compromising and controlling than it is perversion.

And it's not really "the big, bad capitalist companies" that are the problem - it's the politicians and the military officials who use their power for their own prosperity. It's the lifelong intelligence operatives who think they control the world. It's the mobsters who have been compromising people since photographs existed.

Want a better understanding of the Deep State? Look into Barry Seal. Not the Tom Cruise version in American Made. More like the Daniel Hopsicker version from Barry and the Boys. At the very least, it's a really interesting place to start.
 

Gary Gutful

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Too many dumb merkins dreaming up increasingly more ridiculous conspiracy theories on forums in between masturbating over shit eating porn.

Do something meaningful with your lives.
 
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