Central Coast opinions thread (The "Coast Conundrum")

[mongoose]

Robina Stadium wouldn't be empty. The East Coast team would play 6 games there a year. I just don't know if there's enough interest in the game on the Goldie to hold 12 games.

The other 6 could be at Lang Park. It would be funny if Redcliffe became East Coast and played 4 games in Redcliffe, 4 on the Goldie and 4 in Brissie, considering they were going to sue the Titans when they wanted to use the name Dolphins.

Nah, give the goldie a team that makes finals for a few years in a row and there will be plenty of interest. They only made finals once since 2011.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Nah, give the goldie a team that makes finals for a few years in a row and there will be plenty of interest. They only made finals once since 2011.

Possibly, but it's better to have a team that can survive the good times and the bad.

GC never wanted the "Titans" brand. They went with it after Redcliffe threatened to sue them for calling their bid the Dolphins.

It has no Leagues Club to fall back on. Licenced venues are a big thing on the Goldie, so it's madness they never invested in one. They could have worked with Burleigh Bears to establish that as their LC and call themselves the Bears, but instead they took on the Titans moniker which is shit.

If they teamed up with Redcliffe they would get the 'brand' they originally wanted. Redcliffe would get into the NRL, which is what they want. The club gets to extend its supporter base from Goldie to Moreton Bay and Sunshine Coast. Maybe make it 6 games at Robina and 6 at Redcliffe. You have to admit, that brand has far more muscle and a better ability to attract and develop players than the current one. It also covers two areas with one team. Red and white as their colours would make them stand out from the Cowboys and Broncos.

 

[Perth Red]

Robina Stadium wouldn't be empty. The East Coast team would play 6 games there a year. I just don't know if there's enough interest in the game on the Goldie to hold 12 games.

The other 6 could be at Lang Park. It would be funny if Redcliffe became East Coast and played 4 games in Redcliffe, 4 on the Goldie and 4 in Brissie, considering they were going to sue the Titans when they wanted to use the name Dolphins.

Have the fans that went in the first 4 years left the region or become Suns fans? No they need a decent club to support.
2007 21k
2008 22k
2009 19k
2010 17k

there's your interest, just need the Titans not to be a basket case on and off the field! There are bad times, and then there are really bad times! Any new club that has a decade of failure like the Titans is going to suffer fan engagement problems. I cant think of another club that has had 10 years of on field shtness coupled with off field drama like the Titans?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Have the fans that went in the first 4 years left the region or become Suns fans? No they need a decent club to support.
2007 21k
2008 22k
2009 19k
2010 17k

there's your interest, just need the Titans not to be a basket case on and off the field! There are bad times, and then there are really bad times! Any new club that has a decade of failure like the Titans is going to suffer fan engagement problems. I cant think of another club that has had 10 years of on field shtness coupled with off field drama like the Titans?

The Cowboys did in their first decade and they were one of the strongest drawing clubs in the league during the most turbulent time in the game's history. They did that at an old race track that had portable thunderboxes. GC have a you beaut stadium with state of the art shithouses and a nice fancy roof.

 

[The Great Dane]

The Cowboys did in their first decade and they were one of the strongest drawing clubs in the league during the most turbulent time in the game's history. They did that at an old race track that had portable thunderboxes. GC have a you beaut stadium with state of the art shithouses and a nice fancy roof.

The Titans are in one of the entertainment capitals of the country, meanwhile in Townsville there's almost no major competition in the sports or entertainment industries for the Cowboys to compete with.

Their crowd averages also aren't that much different really.

 

[Perth Red]

The Cowboys did in their first decade and they were one of the strongest drawing clubs in the league during the most turbulent time in the game's history. They did that at an old race track that had portable thunderboxes. GC have a you beaut stadium with state of the art shithouses and a nice fancy roof.

not really, they had 5 good years then a significant drop for 4 years before picking up again for 6 years before another big drop off for 5 years, a pick up for 3 years before last 2 years of drop off! They are the ultimate yo-yos

 

[Perth Red]

The Titans are in one of the entertainment capitals of the country, meanwhile in Townsville there's almost no major competition in the sports or entertainment industries for the Cowboys to compete with.

Their crowd averages also aren't that much different really.

yeh there’s only 1000 overall in it, when you consider how bad Titans have been that is quite surprising.

 

[T-Boon]

Possibly, but it's better to have a team that can survive the good times and the bad.

GC never wanted the "Titans" brand. They went with it after Redcliffe threatened to sue them for calling their bid the Dolphins.

It has no Leagues Club to fall back on. Licenced venues are a big thing on the Goldie, so it's madness they never invested in one. They could have worked with Burleigh Bears to establish that as their LC and call themselves the Bears, but instead they took on the Titans moniker which is shit.

If they teamed up with Redcliffe they would get the 'brand' they originally wanted. Redcliffe would get into the NRL, which is what they want. The club gets to extend its supporter base from Goldie to Moreton Bay and Sunshine Coast. Maybe make it 6 games at Robina and 6 at Redcliffe. You have to admit, that brand has far more muscle and a better ability to attract and develop players than the current one. It also covers two areas with one team. Red and white as their colours would make them stand out from the Cowboys and Broncos.

I like this idea. South Queensland Dolphins.
2 games Redcliffe
4 games Robina
6 games Suncorp

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

not really, they had 5 good years then a significant drop for 4 years before picking up again for 6 years before another big drop off for 5 years, a pick up for 3 years before last 2 years of drop off! They are the ultimate yo-yos

In an isolated regional city of what, 150k?

Like I said, the stadium used portable toilets.

There are people in Brisbane, Gold Coast, Sydney, Melbourne and Perth who wouldn't attend a venue that lacks basic utilities. It shows how dedicated Cowboys fans are compared to most other clubs who can't draw in state of the art facilities.

It was also out in the suburbs.

Gold Coast has over 600,000 and 326,000 in nearby Logan.

 

[T-Boon]

The "Gold Coast" is a region rather than a city so you could easily change the name in such a way that you expand the region that it represents (eg "South Queensland"). I also don't think the Gold Coast rugby league fans are in love with the name "Titans" or its history. So you could easily re nickname them (to say the Dolphins or Jets) .

What GC rugby league fans really want is a team that has the potential to be great maybe 3 years in every decade and plays a bunch of games there.

South Queensland Jets (7 games Suncorp and 5 games GC)
plus
North Brisbane Dolphins (10 games Suncorp 2 games Redcliffe)

Suddenly we have 3 SQ teams which is the right amount.

 

[The Great Dane]

yeh there’s only 1000 overall in it, when you consider how bad Titans have been that is quite surprising.

Considering the circumstances the Titans do really well.

It makes you wonder what a GC club could achieve if the team wasn’t absolute trash. Surely even 30k isn’t out of reach if/when the good times come.

BTW, considering their circumstances the Cowboys also do well, all the regional clubs do well really.

 

[T-Boon]

This may be outside the scope of this thread but how stupid is the border of NSW/QLD on the gold coast? It cuts through the airport.
I would rejig it. I mean just in terms of origin eligibility. If you are born and bread in Tweed Heads you should represent Qld. The border for Origin eligibility should be the Tweed River.

Vlandy should take the lead on this then run for premier.

 

[Perth Red]

In an isolated regional city of what, 150k?

Like I said, the stadium used portable toilets.

There are people in Brisbane, Gold Coast, Sydney, Melbourne and Perth who wouldn't attend a venue that lacks basic utilities. It shows how dedicated Cowboys fans are compared to most other clubs who can't draw in state of the art facilities.

It was also out in the suburbs.

Gold Coast has over 600,000 and 326,000 in nearby Logan.

none of which has anything to do with the fact you were wrong lol. Cowboys fans started great then dropped then picked up again etc largely due to form. Titans have dropped and stayed down as form has been terrible for years. Despite this their avg is still only 1000 less than the cowboys over both clubs history.

 

[Perth Red]

The "Gold Coast" is a region rather than a city so you could easily change the name in such a way that you expand the region that it represents (eg "South Queensland"). I also don't think the Gold Coast rugby league fans are in love with the name "Titans" or its history. So you could easily re nickname them (to say the Dolphins or Jets) .

What GC rugby league fans really want is a team that has the potential to be great maybe 3 years in every decade and plays a bunch of games there.

South Queensland Jets (7 games Suncorp and 5 games GC)
plus
North Brisbane Dolphins (10 games Suncorp 2 games Redcliffe)

Suddenly we have 3 SQ teams which is the right amount.

the name isn’t the problem, being trash year after year is the problem. No one likes to follow a loser.

 

[blue bags]

The "Gold Coast" is a region rather than a city so you could easily change the name in such a way that you expand the region that it represents (eg "South Queensland"). I also don't think the Gold Coast rugby league fans are in love with the name "Titans" or its history. So you could easily re nickname them (to say the Dolphins or Jets) .

What GC rugby league fans really want is a team that has the potential to be great maybe 3 years in every decade and plays a bunch of games there.

South Queensland Jets (7 games Suncorp and 5 games GC)
plus
North Brisbane Dolphins (10 games Suncorp 2 games Redcliffe)

Suddenly we have 3 SQ teams which is the right amount.

i like the seagulls, dolphins, jets , rollacoasters

 

[T-Boon]

the name isn’t the problem, being trash year after year is the problem. No one likes to follow a loser.

The name Titans is crap, so it IS a problem.
Also the location is a problem as it has always been a total crap-house for NRL teams. Good players just refuse to go there and apply themselves and unfortunately that's always going to be the case.
The only reason GC were admitted 15 or so years ago was because the Broncos forbade a second Brisbane team and at the time had the power and influence to do that. We should fix that now and make it a team representing all of South Queensland and properly rival the Broncos playing a bunch of games in Brisbane so they can attract better players plus play 4-6 games on the GC which is plenty.
Get rid of the name Titans as 'GROTD' said, they didn't even want that name to begin with.
All the GC needs is 4-6 games each year.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

A good brand resonates with its intended base.

St George Dragons works because St George slayed the Dragon and the club was created when most Australians were of British descent.

North Queensland Cowboys works because agriculture is the region's main industry and stockmen tame horses, which tied in nicely with a club coming in 7 years after the Broncos established themselves as the state's representatives in the Sydney competition.

Broncos isn't the best name, but it does offer alliteration. Barry Maranta was a fan of Denver Broncos.

Titans has little to no relevance to Gold Coast. The representative team were called the Vikings and the Tweed Heads Seagulls merged with Fortitude Valley Diehards to form the Seagulls Diehards team that won the BRL in 1988 and 1989 and those clubs had similar logos, but other than that there is no reason to call them the Titans. If the club wanted to draw on the history of the Vikings and Seagulls Diehards then they should have just teamed up with Fortitude Valley Diehards, named themselves the Gold Coast Diehards and use their history and existing fanbase in Brisbane to create a supporter base in both cities.

I don't think Valleys had a senior club at the time, so it would have been a feel good story. People from Brisbane who remembered tfr BRL could identify with the club and adopt them as their team.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

none of which has anything to do with the fact you were wrong lol. Cowboys fans started great then dropped then picked up again etc largely due to form. Titans have dropped and stayed down as form has been terrible for years. Despite this their avg is still only 1000 less than the cowboys over both clubs history.

Are you saying that the quality of a stadium's facilities has no impact on attendances?

If a Perth team was drawing 8,200 in a stadium that didn't have toilets, wouldn't you take that into consideration?

People did blame the WACA for the Reds only averaging 8,200 in 1996.

 

[T-Boon]

A good brand resonates with its intended base.

St George Dragons works because St George slayed the Dragon and the club was created when most Australians were of British descent.

North Queensland Cowboys works because agriculture is the region's main industry and stockmen tame horses, which tied in nicely with a club coming in 7 years after the Broncos established themselves as the state's representatives in the Sydney competition.

Broncos isn't the best name, but it does offer alliteration. Barry Maranta was a fan of Denver Broncos.

Titans has little to no relevance to Gold Coast. The representative team were called the Vikings and the Tweed Heads Seagulls merged with Fortitude Valley Diehards to form the Seagulls Diehards team that won the BRL in 1988 and 1989 and those clubs had similar logos, but other than that there is no reason to call them the Titans. If the club wanted to draw on the history of the Vikings and Seagulls Diehards then they should have just teamed up with Fortitude Valley Diehards, named themselves the Gold Coast Diehards and use their history and existing fanbase in Brisbane to create a supporter base in both cities.

I don't think Valleys had a senior club at the time, so it would have been a feel good story. People from Brisbane who remembered tfr BRL could identify with the club and adopt them as their team.

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The could have combined the three and had the Gold Coast TriHards.

 

[Perth Red]

The name Titans is crap, so it IS a problem.
Also the location is a problem as it has always been a total crap-house for NRL teams. Good players just refuse to go there and apply themselves and unfortunately that's always going to be the case.
The only reason GC were admitted 15 or so years ago was because the Broncos forbade a second Brisbane team and at the time had the power and influence to do that. We should fix that now and make it a team representing all of South Queensland and properly rival the Broncos playing a bunch of games in Brisbane so they can attract better players plus play 4-6 games on the GC which is plenty.
Get rid of the name Titans as 'GROTD' said, they didn't even want that name to begin with.
All the GC needs is 4-6 games each year.

It isn’t anymore crap than most meaningless brands sports clubs choose to use. It’s only crap because it’s currently connected to failure. If titans had one a premiership in first 5 years and been top 8 most of their existence then Titans would be considered great. People don’t follow their clubs because of their brand as a rule, they follow them because they are successful and convenient and represent their suburb/city/region/state/country.