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Gronk

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Poupou Escobar said:
That's from July 2018. I'm pretty sure Trump's opponents didn't wait until then to start delegitimising the election.
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I never said that the accusations of Russian interference began in 2018. I merely posted it as fact that the meddling was real. US intelligence was aware of it going back to 2015.

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

The hypocrisy is that Trump’s behaviour now is over made up grasping of straws. Imagine if a foreign countyr interfered in an election and he was the loser.
 
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Poupou Escobar said:
That must be why nobody interferes with US elections any more.
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What are you saying ? That Trump must have done a good job because they seemingly don’t do it anymore? Way to miss the point.

He refused to admit that it even existed until he had no choice.

Between January 2015 and August 2017, Facebook linked 80,000publications to the Russian company Internet Research Agency through more than 470 different accounts. At the same time, a total of 50,258 Twitter accounts were linked to Russian bots – fake accounts programmed to share false information – during the 2016 election period. The bots are responsible for more than 3.8 million tweets, about 19% of the total tweets related to the 2016 US presidential election. Approximately 80% of these bots behaved in a way that supported Donald Trump, mostly using the hashtags #donaldtrump, #trump2016, #neverhillary and #trumppence16.

https://theconversation.com/fact-ch...erence-in-the-us-presidential-election-146711

Moot point now as his gig is almost over, but let’s ignore the hypocrisy of him dumbing down The infuence of a foreign actor (with his knowledge and cooperation or not) and now making shit up because he doesn’t like losing. Time for him to grow a pair.
 
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Avenger said:
Violence in the country.
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When Trump is proven right and the dark secrets of the world are really at risk of being exposed (rigging elections is only the first jenga piece to be pulled) then...yeah...there will be violence.

They'll have no choice but to use that as one of their cards, right?
 
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Happy MEel said:
When it comes to electoral fraud, nope.

Sure there was whingeing, but not to the extent of the incumbent government claiming baseless electoral fraud accusations.
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Interestingly, there's actually very specific accusations, now.

Sure, it started with videos of people f**king with ballots inside counting rooms...now the Dominion voting systems (partnered with The Clinton Foundation and part-owned by Feinstein's husband, by the way...) are shown to have flipped 6000 votes to Biden in MI (just in one county - but that system is used in 47 counties in MI and across 28 states, I believe).

Now, Sydney Powell (who is a pretty serious lady) has stated on the MSM that the HAMMER/SCORECARD programs need to be checked out to see if they were used.

These are legit things, exposed by General McInerny in 2017.

Whether they were used in the US election or not is unknown, as yet. At present it is a baseless accusation. But it's at the point where a prominent figure is specifically referencing them on MSM, so that's an interesting twist...
 
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Someone showed me something today claiming that there was some sting setup by homeland security that supposedly marked valid papers with some nano thing with blockchain ... So they will expose massive fraud.

I LOL'ed .... But it would be hilarious if true
 
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strider said:
Someone showed me something today claiming that there was some sting setup by homeland security that supposedly marked valid papers with some nano thing with blockchain ... So they will expose massive fraud.

I LOL'ed .... But it would be hilarious if true
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Yeah, saw that, but plenty have come out and said that Feds don't produce the ballot papers. That's done by individual states, so...?
 
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Hollywood Jesus said:
Interestingly, there's actually very specific accusations, now.

Sure, it started with videos of people f**king with ballots inside counting rooms...now the Dominion voting systems (partnered with The Clinton Foundation and part-owned by Feinstein's husband, by the way...) are shown to have flipped 6000 votes to Biden in MI (just in one county - but that system is used in 47 counties in MI and across 28 states, I believe).

Now, Sydney Powell (who is a pretty serious lady) has stated on the MSM that the HAMMER/SCORECARD programs need to be checked out to see if they were used.

These are legit things, exposed by General McInerny in 2017.

Whether they were used in the US election or not is unknown, as yet. At present it is a baseless accusation. But it's at the point where a prominent figure is specifically referencing them on MSM, so that's an interesting twist...
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She's full on MAGA and been bangin' that drum for at least a coupla years now, no surprise she'd be banging it even louder now.
 
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Yep so much fraud, that Biden and co changed the voting ballots to him as president but decided not to change the senate / house rep to them. The republicans performed above expectations in those races.....not sure why they didn’t rig that as well.....


Interestingly I read somewhere in the Wisconsin vote, the difference is around 20-30k against Trump, and there was around that many votes that voted Biden but republican in the rep/senate races. Some just had enough of him.
 
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Hollywood Jesus said:
Interestingly, there's actually very specific accusations, now.

Sure, it started with videos of people f**king with ballots inside counting rooms...now the Dominion voting systems (partnered with The Clinton Foundation and part-owned by Feinstein's husband, by the way...) are shown to have flipped 6000 votes to Biden in MI (just in one county - but that system is used in 47 counties in MI and across 28 states, I believe).

Now, Sydney Powell (who is a pretty serious lady) has stated on the MSM that the HAMMER/SCORECARD programs need to be checked out to see if they were used.

These are legit things, exposed by General McInerny in 2017.

Whether they were used in the US election or not is unknown, as yet. At present it is a baseless accusation. But it's at the point where a prominent figure is specifically referencing them on MSM, so that's an interesting twist...
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The Clinton foundation has nothing to do with Dominion in the US. They have a partnership to provide voting machines to developing democracies.

interestingly when you google this stuff, you just go down a rabbit hole of conspiracy websites with no definite sources......sounds like someone’s algorithms are feeding the ..........

Also is that Sidney Powell, the Trump supporter, Flynn’s lawyer? Gee it’s a surprised she is supporting this conspiracy story .....
 
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