Stalled and stagnant Sydney clubs

[Pippen94]

If that's the case then why put a team there?

Its population is under 500k. If its people prefer onionball and fumbleball then there aren't going to be too many people left to support a new NRL club when there are nine within driving distance.

Roosters could convince 5k people from North Shore to attend 12 games at SFS each year if they marketed themselves better. That's just 1% of the population. Add 5k to what they get now and they're near the 20k mark. That's a step in the right direction.

When A league was looking to expand the north shore scored the best in all metrics. Large affluent population in biggest market in country.
North Sydney to central coast team would stack up against Perth etc I'm guessing

 

[Pippen94]

Always amuses me that RU and afl can take an area without a club there but nrl can’t hold it with three clubs in spitting distance of the region and media saturation of the sport in the city.
Any kid born after 2000 has no reason to lament the loss of the bears and no reason they aren’t playing RL and supporting one of the other 16 NRL clubs, ideally one of the three in easy travel distance,

Because that's how competition works being offshoot of Sydney premiership.
Has become a major plus when it comes to broadcast rights because of the amount Sydney content

 

[Iamback]

Because that's how competition works being offshoot of Sydney premiership.
Has become a major plus when it comes to broadcast rights because of the amount Sydney content

People forget the NRL evolved from a Sydney RL comp

 

[Perth Red]

When A league was looking to expand the north shore scored the best in all metrics. Large affluent population in biggest market in country.
North Sydney to central coast team would stack up against Perth etc I'm guessing

And yet they didnt put a team there? Couldn't have been that compelling!

 

[Perth Red]

People forget the NRL evolved from a Sydney RL comp

Sadly we cant, the legacy still holds us back! Good job its worth something to Tv because the other metrics are sadly lacking.

 

[Iamback]

Sadly we cant, the legacy still holds us back! Good job its worth something to Tv because the other metrics are sadly lacking.

Lacking in unrealistic metrics.

The game is far from dying in Sydney. There isn't a club that is broke that is all that matters

 

[Pippen94]

There are a few teams that if it was a new comp wouldn't exist. The Bears are one and they like Newtown have a place in NSW Cup only

And yet they didnt put a team there? Couldn't have been that compelling!

A league just the worst run competition in country

 

[Wb1234]

Always amuses me that RU and afl can take an area without a club there but nrl can’t hold it with three clubs in spitting distance of the region and media saturation of the sport in the city.
Any kid born after 2000 has no reason to lament the loss of the bears and no reason they aren’t playing RL and supporting one of the other 16 NRL clubs, ideally one of the three in easy travel distance,

Use your Bain

If hull kr died would its fans support hull fc or hull tigers

people are annoyed they lost their club just like you would be if super league brought back franchising and kicked out hull kr because they already have a bigger club in hull

 

[Wb1234]

The area. North Shore private school's are never going to align with RL

You must be young

when norths were around the support was split as much as the eastern suburbs is split between union and league

the biggest Toff private schools in Sydney are actually in the east. If the roosters had ever been kicked out then the area would be an even bigger hotbed for afl and union

 

[Perth Red]

Use your Bain

If hull kr died would its fans support hull fc or hull tigers

people are annoyed they lost their club just like you would be if super league brought back franchising and kicked out hull kr because they already have a bigger club in hull

No but the next generation would in all likelihood. When HKR got relegated to third division I still supported them but started going to Bradford Bulls as well to watch SL games and got into it with the great experience at odsal. Fans dont have to be lost.
Having said that we are what we are, but lets not use it as an excuse to hold ourselves back. No one should be kicked out unless they are no longer financially viable, and with a huge grant and pokies (at least for now) it doesnt look like anyone is going bust anytime soon.

 

[Iamback]

No but the next generation would in all likelihood. When HKR got relegated to third division I still supported them but started going to Bradford Bulls as well to watch SL games and got into it with the great experience at odsal. Fans dont have to be lost.
Having said that we are what we are, but lets not use it as an excuse to hold ourselves back. No one should be kicked out unless they are no longer financially viable, and with a huge grant and pokies (at least for now) it doesnt look like anyone is going bust anytime soon.

Football clubs are making profits without pokies now

 

[Perth Red]

Football clubs are making profits without pokies now

Getting 50% of their revenue from the NRL Id hope so!

 

[Iamback]

Getting 50% of their revenue from the NRL Id hope so!

Revenue sharing isn't an NRL exclusive. Every League in the world does it

 

[Perth Red]

Revenue sharing isn't an NRL exclusive. Every League in the world does it

no one said it is lol. But I wonder how many top leagues the game grant makes up 50% of club revenue? With 50% of your revenue covered you'd hope to see some surplus at the bottom line. Personally id be happy to see the clubs get more, as long as its ring fenced for building revenue, attracting fans and building memberships.

 

[Iamback]

no one said it is lol. But I wonder how many top leagues the game grant makes up 50% of club revenue? With 50% of your revenue covered you'd hope to see some surplus at the bottom line. Personally id be happy to see the clubs get more, as long as its ring fenced for building revenue, attracting fans and building memberships.

NBA teams revenue ranking 2024| Statista

Which NBA team has the highest revenue? During the 2023/24 season, the Golden State Warriors generated more revenue than any other NBA franchise.

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Compare this to the revenue breakdown from the League and it most certainly is 50/50.

Teams are doing all of that

 

[Wb1234]

No but the next generation would in all likelihood. When HKR got relegated to third division I still supported them but started going to Bradford Bulls as well to watch SL games and got into it with the great experience at odsal. Fans dont have to be lost.
Having said that we are what we are, but lets not use it as an excuse to hold ourselves back. No one should be kicked out unless they are no longer financially viable, and with a huge grant and pokies (at least for now) it doesnt look like anyone is going bust anytime soon.

I’m not saying the bears should come in. I’m explaining why their loss was bad for rugby league and good for afl and the rugby union

if we go past 20 teams then we should look at central coast imo

 

[Perth Red]

NBA teams revenue ranking 2024| Statista

Which NBA team has the highest revenue? During the 2023/24 season, the Golden State Warriors generated more revenue than any other NBA franchise.

www.statista.com

Compare this to the revenue breakdown from the League and it most certainly is 50/50.

Teams are doing all of that

Doubt it, the last tv deal is worth around $2.6billion a year. There's 30 teams earning an avg of $200mill each. If 50% of it was from TV grant it would cost the league $3billion a year in grant pay outs. Its more likely to be around 30-35% Id say.

 

[Perth Red]

I’m not saying the bears should come in. I’m explaining why their loss was bad for rugby league and good for afl and the rugby union

if we go past 20 teams then we should look at central coast imo

And I'm just saying it didnt have to be bad for RL. It was just as bad an outcome as the NRL didn't have a strategy to ensure the area remained engaged with the game like it should.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

When A league was looking to expand the north shore scored the best in all metrics. Large affluent population in biggest market in country.
North Sydney to central coast team would stack up against Perth etc I'm guessing

A-League could put a team on the North Shore because it's a summer based competition. There would be zero competitors to worry about, other than a few NSW Blues games being played at North Sydney Oval. Not that anyone watches the Sheffield Shield.

 

[Pippen94]

A-League could put a team on the North Shore because it's a summer based competition. There would be zero competitors to worry about, other than a few NSW Blues games being played at North Sydney Oval. Not that anyone watches the Sheffield Shield.

Mariners should've been Northern Spirit but guy who set up competition was the rugby guy who created created super rugby. Both leagues now failing while competitions based around tradition & local derbies prospering.