Stalled and stagnant Sydney clubs

[Pippen94]

If you add the surrounding suburbs of Lota, Gumdale ane Lytton it would be around that, maybe a bit more. I think Redland has about 160k.

It would be good if Redlands Parrots and Wynnum Manly Seagulls became the one organisation. Redlands Parrots could represent the Seagulls in the BRL.

Based on area would've guessed more. Secretly hoping Seagulls make a run at nrl with new stadium

 

[Pippen94]

The projection in this post is unbelievable.

You are the one that was caught trying to spin the data, and now you're attempting to ignore anything that doesn't support your baseless position.

It's wilful ignorance of the worst kind.

Just basic logic. Remove a team from an area & the interest in the game therd will drop. North Sydney encompassing Hornsby is no more affluent than Sutherland or Manly. Those areas have among the highest interest in NRL - wonder why?!

 

[Perth Red]

Just basic logic. Remove a team from an area & the interest in the game therd will drop. North Sydney encompassing Hornsby is no more affluent than Sutherland or Manly. Those areas have among the highest interest in NRL - wonder why?!

didnt manly avg less than 9k fans just a few years ago? Cronulla barely get to 13k fans. How exactly are they measuring interest in the nrl?

 

[Pippen94]

didnt manly avg less than 9k fans just a few years ago? Cronulla barely get to 13k fans. How exactly are they measuring interest in the nrl?

Doc Fujak counted all the jersey's he saw around each area.

 

[Perth Red]

Doc Fujak counted all the jersey's he saw around each area.

Sounds like Roy Morgan methodology lol.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Based on area would've guessed more. Secretly hoping Seagulls make a run at nrl with new stadium

The suburbs in that area are semi-rural with a lot of bushland.

 

[The Great Dane]

Just basic logic. Remove a team from an area & the interest in the game therd will drop. North Sydney encompassing Hornsby is no more affluent than Sutherland or Manly. Those areas have among the highest interest in NRL - wonder why?!

If it's basic logic then why doesn't the region of Sydney with the highest interest in RL (the Central Coast) have an NRL side, while 3 of the bottom 5 with the lowest interest in RL have NRL Clubs directly representing them?

If North Sydney losing the Bears is the sole reasons why interest in RL in North Sydney is so low, then why does what data we have from pre-1999 suggest that RL was always more popular on the Northern Beaches than NS, and that RL was probably always under the average rate of popularity in NS at least post WWII?

Could it be that there're more factors, such as gentrification, immigration rates, dollars invested in the region, facilities, population density, etc, etc, that Dr Fujak touches on but you are ignoring because it's inconvenient to your argument?!

You are honestly the most bad faith and intellectually dishonest person I've ever encountered. You proved your position wrong with your own citation, yet here you are pretending it never happened because it doesn't suit your agenda.

 

[Pippen94]

If it's basic logic then why doesn't the region of Sydney with the highest interest in RL (the Central Coast) have an NRL side, while 3 of the bottom 5 with the lowest interest in RL have NRL Clubs directly representing them?

If North Sydney losing the Bears is the sole reasons why interest in RL in North Sydney is so low, then why does what data we have from pre-1999 suggest that RL was always more popular on the Northern Beaches than NS, and that RL was probably always under the average rate of popularity in NS at least post WWII?

Could it be that there're more factors, such as gentrification, immigration rates, dollars invested in the region, facilities, population density, etc, etc, that Dr Fujak touches on but you are ignoring because it's inconvenient to your argument?!

You are honestly the most bad faith and intellectually dishonest person I've ever encountered. You proved your position wrong with your own citation, yet here you are pretending it never happened because it doesn't suit your agenda.

Simple. Central Coast never had team & ppl there mainly from other parts of Sydney. Never lost a team. Old norths fans didn't switch to a hated rival & have been lost from the game

 

[Wb1234]

Just basic logic. Remove a team from an area & the interest in the game therd will drop. North Sydney encompassing Hornsby is no more affluent than Sutherland or Manly. Those areas have among the highest interest in NRL - wonder why?!

Yeh losing the bears was a big loss for rugby league. They represented such a massive area and most of it has Sydney’s richest suburbs.

they should bring back the bears via an expansion team eg Perth. Their away games in Sydney can be played at nso which would be massive as to the crowds they can get otherwise. It would also give Perth an area with strong access to juniors and also a leagues club

 

[Perth Red]

Yeh losing the bears was a big loss for rugby league. They represented such a massive area and most of it has Sydney’s richest suburbs.

they should bring back the bears via an expansion team eg Perth. Their away games in Sydney can be played at nso which would be massive as to the crowds they can get otherwise. It would also give Perth an area with strong access to juniors and also a leagues club

Losing the bears wasn’t the problem, Sydney’s lack of vision, nswrl lack of leadership and the lack of ambition of the surounding clubs was.
No reason one of the many surrounding clubs couldn’t have stepped in and taken the area on to ensure RL kept thriving.
the game doesn’t need a club in every Sydney suburb to be relevant youve literally got roosters, manly and eels regions all within spitting distance of the north Sydney region.

 

[siv]

Simple bring in the CC Bears

RL is a TV product these days

 

[Iamback]

Losing the bears wasn’t the problem, Sydney’s lack of vision, nswrl lack of leadership and the lack of ambition of the surounding clubs was.
No reason one of the many surrounding clubs couldn’t have stepped in and taken the area on to ensure RL kept thriving.
the game doesn’t need a club in every Sydney suburb to be relevant youve literally got roosters, manly and eels regions all within spitting distance of the north Sydney region.

Roosters have Central coast and do a pretty good job at it

 

[Wb1234]

Nobo

Losing the bears wasn’t the problem, Sydney’s lack of vision, nswrl lack of leadership and the lack of ambition of the surounding clubs was.
No reason one of the many surrounding clubs couldn’t have stepped in and taken the area on to ensure RL kept thriving.
the game doesn’t need a club in every Sydney suburb to be relevant youve literally got roosters, manly and eels regions all within spitting distance of the north Sydney region.

Nobody said every Sydney suburb should have a club that’s a strawman argument

but a club which represented the north of the city was unfairly kicked out.

and since you have no idea about Sydney it’s the richest area of Sydney. Most of Sydney’s richest people live there. People who won’t be putting money into rugby league so much.

everyone agrees central coast bears for shafted.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No point trying to reconnect with the older generations who are bitter about losing their team. Promote the game to the children who don't have any resentment because they weren't around to see it.

Roosters could develop a following on the North Shore amongst the younger generation if they invest enough time and money.

 

[Iamback]

No point trying to reconnect with the older generations who are bitter about losing their team. Promote the game to the children who don't have any resentment because they weren't around to see it.

Roosters could develop a following on the North Shore amongst the younger generation if they invest enough time and money.

Central Coast made the semis in the country u18's tournament

Won the woman's version

So aren't just taking the kids to serve self interest. As long as it is a 2 way street the system works well

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Losing the bears wasn’t the problem, Sydney’s lack of vision, nswrl lack of leadership and the lack of ambition of the surounding clubs was.
No reason one of the many surrounding clubs couldn’t have stepped in and taken the area on to ensure RL kept thriving.
the game doesn’t need a club in every Sydney suburb to be relevant youve literally got roosters, manly and eels regions all within spitting distance of the north Sydney region.

There's no reason why people from the North Shore who were born after 2000 cannot support the Roosters in the same way they get behind the Swans, Sixers, Kings, Sydney FC and Waratahs. We just need to promote the Roosters the same way the Swans go about business. That's the area the Roosters should be in every week running school clinics and autograph signings. Saturate the area with the Roosters to the point the kids think they're part of the tribe. If the Roosters fail to do it then these children will grow up supporting the Swans and Waratahs.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Central Coast made the semis in the country u18's tournament

Won the woman's version

So aren't just taking the kids to serve self interest. As long as it is a 2 way street the system works well

If they can so it in Gosford then why not on the North Shore?

If the North Shore and Gosford became dyed in the wool Roosters fans then the club would be massive.

 

[siv]

Central Coast made the semis in the country u18's tournament

Won the woman's version

So aren't just taking the kids to serve self interest. As long as it is a 2 way street the system works well

Central Coast deserve their own team

Their juniios are strong and a stadium built by the Bears and have a strong relationship with the Northern Sydney region

Roosters are just in a long line from Tigers, Storm, Newcastle who have tried to rebadge the region

Buying Woy Woy LC and then selling it iff after they got their CC vite has left a bitter taste on the coast. And lets forget Wyong dumped them too

They dont need a eastern beach Bondi moniker

 

[Wb1234]

There's no reason why people from the North Shore who were born after 2000 cannot support the Roosters in the same way they get behind the Swans, Sixers, Kings, Sydney FC and Waratahs. We just need to promote the Roosters the same way the Swans go about business. That's the area the Roosters should be in every week running school clinics and autograph signings. Saturate the area with the Roosters to the point the kids think they're part of the tribe. If the Roosters fail to do it then these children will grow up supporting the Swans and Waratahs.

The roosters represent the east of the city. Plus they struggle to get people from the east following them. They have no chance of taking the north

if any club could take that area it would be manly

 

[siv]

If they can so it in Gosford then why not on the North Shore?

If the North Shore and Gosford became dyed in the wool Roosters fans then the club would be massive.

But everyone hates the Roosters