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GRAND FINAL: Parramatta v Penrith GAME DAY THREAD at Accor 2/10/22

JokerEel

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Penrith got blown away in there 1st GF in 2020 against Melbourne.

Forget what Gus says that Penrith were the better team.

They were deer in the headlights were down 22-0 at HT and 26-0 during the 2nd half.

It happens especially when a lack of GF experience comes up against a side with plenty.

Just need to get back there in the next year or two and not wait another for another generation to come through and go through the same things again.


This is where Moses needs to step up like Cleary did post the 2020 GF.
 

Poupou Escobar

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we just need to keep building and gaining experience, all the best teams of the last 20 years have lost grand finals. The problem with our club is the lack of big game experience, we dont play grand finals often and our player rarely play Origin or international footy.

Hopefully some of our boys go on the kangaroo tour, hopefully its not a roosters panthers love in.
We seriously overrate our players. I'm sure all fans do. There is no doubt some Roosters fans who think their club should have gotten more than three merkins picked.

ClubKangaroos
North Queensland4
Easts3
Penrith3
Souths3
Canterbury2
Manly2
Melbourne2
Brisbane1
Canberra1
Gold Coast1
Parramatta1
St George1

We won a prelim in Townsville and still had fewer players picked in the Australian team than them. It's time to stop blaming the coach. He obviously did a good job with the squad he has. He also had some luck, just not on grand final day. It all comes out in the wash.
 

Poupou Escobar

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That’s why you create an elite pathways system, and you fill your team with juniors that want to be there for there bulk of their career.

there’d be a few that would demand big $$$ and some will leave. But many will be on unders especially for the start of their careers.

Penrith are only doing now what Brian smith was doing here at parra.
And since Brian Smith was doing it every club now tries to do it. That means more demand for talented youngsters, which pushes their price up. Suddenly 'junior development' went from a sneaky way for a mid-tier club like Parra (and St George before that) to gain an advantage to the situation we have now where the richest clubs dominate the junior competitions with youngsters poached from overseas, interstate and country NSW.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Yes and from what I was told why Suali they didn't even bother with cause they knew the family and what he would create money wise.
Don't forget he's from Penrith's catchment but he played all his junior rep footy for Souths, another club that spends big on junior 'development'.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Penrith got blown away in there 1st GF in 2020 against Melbourne.

Forget what Gus says that Penrith were the better team.

They were deer in the headlights were down 22-0 at HT and 26-0 during the 2nd half.

It happens especially when a lack of GF experience comes up against a side with plenty.

Just need to get back there in the next year or two and not wait another for another generation to come through and go through the same things again.
The difference is Penrith were minor premiers in 2020 with the best for-and-against. They were legitimately the best team that year. We finished fourth this year but were the seventh for points differential.
 

JokerEel

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We seriously overrate our players. I'm sure all fans do. There is no doubt some Roosters fans who think their club should have gotten more than three merkins picked.

ClubKangaroos
North Queensland4
Easts3
Penrith3
Souths3
Canterbury2
Manly2
Melbourne2
Brisbane1
Canberra1
Gold Coast1
Parramatta1
St George1

We won a prelim in Townsville and still had fewer players picked in the Australian team than them. It's time to stop blaming the coach. He obviously did a good job with the squad he has. He also had some luck, just not on grand final day. It all comes out in the wash.

Now do all the world cup players and their NRL squads
 

Poupou Escobar

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Him and Lienu are your prototype beast middle forwards at the moment. Compact, strong, go like a freight train
Another merkin who doesn't have to play long minutes. Leota (35 minutes) and Leniu (21) played fewer minutes combined than RCG, Matterson, JFH and Yeo.
 

Parra Pride

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Penrith got blown away in there 1st GF in 2020 against Melbourne.

Forget what Gus says that Penrith were the better team.

They were deer in the headlights were down 22-0 at HT and 26-0 during the 2nd half.

It happens especially when a lack of GF experience comes up against a side with plenty.

Just need to get back there in the next year or two and not wait another for another generation to come through and go through the same things again.
I honestly wish I had the confidence in our team to truly believe we'd be back next year to go one further with the experience of this loss to fuel us. The last time I had that much confidence in the side next year ended up taking thirteen years to come and it's the exact same result.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Good points.

Did you also notice a few times that RCG was defending wide of the ruck?

A few times, he made a tackle on Martin, or Crichton...

Why was our best middle defender defending out wide?

No wonder they got a roll on...
Most likely he was having a breather out there which is why they targeted him.
 

lucablight

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He didn't make the grand final ffs, the players did! Arthur helped an above average squad (as proven by Origin and Kangaroo selections) finish with an above average points differential and sneak into a particularly high ladder position. Then we had some luck in Townsville where they outplayed us but had some concentration lapses and we jagged the win. We overachieved this year. There's no need for a f**king scapegoat.
It’s got nothing to do with scapegoating. The coach got the team to a grand final. He’s the one who picks the team, makes the gameplans and prepares the players so he deserves credit for that. Where do you think the team should have finished if you think we “overachieve”. I’d say we finished where we deserved to but it was a disappointing performance in the grand final.
 
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