NRL season length vs Super League

[Colk]

Move SL kickoff to March, try to get SL grand final on same weekend as NRL Grand Final.. and maybe.. just maybe have the World Club Challenge the week after that?

I disagree. I would put them on completely contrasting seasons (if possible) and allow transfers/loan periods to and fro. That would mean NRL aren’t going to rip out all good talent from the ESL and you could also maybe get some loans from Australia to improve interest in their competition.

 

[Captain Apollo]

I disagree. I would put them on completely contrasting seasons (if possible) and allow transfers/loan periods to and fro. That would mean aren’t going to rip out all good talent from the ESL and you could also maybe get some loans from Australia to improve interest in their competition.

I don't know why so many fans have a ":hard on" in playing the WCC the week after the NRL Grand Final. Sorry but the players in neither hemisphere want it, they want to be able to celebrated winning a comp and the long, hard slog to get there. Add in with international RL now looking to be in the Oct-Nov period, it makes little sense.

I mean in soccer, teams which qualify for the the UEFA Champions League do so for the following season, not the current one, and no one is clamouring to playing it after all the domestic seasons conclude. People have just got to get over this rubbish.

 

[Perth Red]

I disagree. I would put them on completely contrasting seasons (if possible) and allow transfers/loan periods to and fro. That would mean NRL aren’t going to rip out all good talent from the ESL and you could also maybe get some loans from Australia to improve interest in their competition.

Back to winter rugby? No thanks! Or are you suggesting nrl Move to the summer? Lol

 

[Colk]

Back to winter rugby? No thanks! Or are you suggesting nrl Move to the summer? Lol

I’m suggesting you shorten both the seasons, particularly the ESL.

The only way you can improve the ESL is through talent. Having them directly competing with the NRL by having them run concurrently doesn’t help their competition at all. Anybody with any talent will decide to play in the NRL, not the ESL. That’s just a fact.

 

[Perth Red]

I’m suggesting you shorten both the seasons, particularly the ESL.

The only way you can improve the ESL is through talent. Having them directly competing with the NRL by having them run concurrently doesn’t help their competition at all. Anybody with any talent will decide to play in the NRL, not the ESL. That’s just a fact.

Catch 22 though, for SL clubs their main revenue is game day, not tv. Ergo they aren’t going to agree to less games. With the nrl running March to October when would you run the SL so there wasn’t cross over if not September to March? Then what about internationals? Not sure you’ve thought this one through lol.

such is life tbh. the other European and sth American soccer leagues are not seen as pointless just because epl has the most money and buys the best players.

 

[Colk]

Catch 22 though, for SL clubs their main revenue is game day, not tv. Ergo they aren’t going to agree to less games. With the nrl running March to October when would you run the SL so there wasn’t cross over if not September to March? Then what about internationals? Not sure you’ve thought this one through lol.

such is life tbh. the other European and sth American soccer leagues are not seen as pointless just because epl has the most money and buys the best players.

Have a shorter NRL season, so say if you get to 20 teams that would be 19 rounds. Have a dedicated rep season in the middle of the year not the end. Start it in late February. Have an elongated finals over two months say August and ending in October. More bigger games and much more meaningful games rather than this continual argument for more and more games which is just infeasible in the long run.

Start the Super League in June during the NRL rep month. Then you can have a transfer window/loan periods for players who wish to nominate for the ESL competition from teams that have missed out on the NRL finals for example or aren’t getting games during the rep period. You could do the same for English players who want to have a loan period to an NRL club.

The soccer examples you used are also completely imprudent. Their comps aren’t dying like the ESL is. I don’t see for example an ESL club signing arguably the best known player on the planet like Paris St Germain did and Inter Miami might do with Lionel Messi.

 

[Perth Red]

Have a shorter NRL season, so say if you get to 20 teams that would be 19 rounds. Have a dedicated rep season in the middle of the year not the end. Start it in late February. Have an elongated finals over two months say August and ending in October. More bigger games and much more meaningful games rather than this continual argument for more and more games which is just infeasible in the long run.

Start the Super League in June during the NRL rep month. Then you can have a transfer window/loan periods for players who wish to nominate for the ESL competition from teams that have missed out on the NRL finals for example or aren’t getting games during the rep period. You could do the same for English players who want to have a loan period to an NRL club.

The soccer examples you used are also completely imprudent. Their comps aren’t dying like the ESL is. I don’t see for example an ESL club signing arguably the best known player on the planet like Paris St Germain did and Inter Miami might do with Lionel Messi.

SL isnt dying.
take away the salary cap and I’m sure there’s some SL club owners who’d be throwing millions at nrl stars.

 

[Colk]

SL isnt dying.
take away the salary cap and I’m sure there’s some SL club owners who’d be throwing millions at nrl stars.

My retort: Brodie Croft.

If Brodie Croft is your MVP then the standard of the competition is not very good. Also, it’s not like he has been the only NRL reserve grader winning it. Hello Zac Hardaker and Rangi Chase. Pat Richards won as a winger!

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IMG can have all the plans they want re relegation but if that’s your standard then that’s the problem and if you run the league at exactly the same time as and thus in competition with the NRL, then it will always be the problem.

 

[Perth Red]

My retort: Brodie Croft.

If Brodie Croft is your MVP then the standard of the competition is not very good. Also, it’s not like he has been the only NRL reserve grader winning it. Hello Zac Hardaker and Rangi Chase. Pat Richards won as a winger!

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IMG can have all the plans they want re relegation but if that’s your standard then that’s the problem and if you run the league at exactly the same time as and thus in competition with the NRL, then it will always be the problem.

standard doesn't equate death lol
The crowds funding and audiences for SL are static and have been for a decade plus. Not growing, not diminishing.
Also some players do better in SL than NRL, some do worse. I've seen plenty of name NRL players play in SL who are absolutely rubbish in the english game.
The answer to improving English RL is not to import more expensive NRL players.

 

[Colk]

standard doesn't equate death lol
The crowds funding and audiences for SL are static and have been for a decade plus. Not growing, not diminishing.
Also some players do better in SL than NRL, some do worse. I've seen plenty of name NRL players play in SL who are absolutely rubbish in the english game.
The answer to improving English RL is not to import more expensive NRL players.

You meant to say stagnation doesn’t equate to death - it might not be dead but it is not very buoyant lol.

Also what names are you talking about? Blokes who are in their 30’s and near the end of their career like Mitchell Pearce? The last top line player that Super League actually got across was what Jamie Lyon? Andrew Johns had a stint there as well so maybe him as well? So that’s what 15, 20 or 25 years ago.

Again Brodie Croft who is a Queensland Cup player at best, was awarded the best player in the competition. SL really, at its best, is as good as the NSW Cup or QLD Cup (it might not even be as good as that).

So yes, it needs as much help as it can possibly get including obtaining much better talent for its competition.

 

[Perth Red]

You meant to say stagnation doesn’t equate to death - it might not be dead but it is not very buoyant lol.

Also what names are you talking about? Blokes who are in their 30’s and near the end of their career like Mitchell Pearce? The last top line player that Super League actually got across was what Jamie Lyon? Andrew Johns had a stint there as well so maybe him as well? So that’s what 15, 20 or 25 years ago.

Again Brodie Croft who is a Queensland Cup player at best, was awarded the best player in the competition. SL really, at its best, is as good as the NSW Cup or QLD Cup (it might not even be as good as that).

So yes, it needs as much help as it can possibly get including obtaining much better talent for its competition.

Again there's been plenty of experienced NRL players in their late 20's early 30's go across and be worse than the middle of the road SL player. We signed Brad Takarangi at 29 with 178 NRL games under his belt and he was terrible, far worse than some young kids and players we signed from Div2 we have in the side. Bateman was outstanding at Canberra, been a real plodder since coming back into SL, and is now heading back to NRL if rumours are to be believed. Some players thrive in the English game with its more open attack, others are shite. In fact the best overseas signings we've had tend to be the middle of the road players rather than the bigger rep ones.

No standard. You seem to be suggesting SL is dying because it doesnt sign top NRL talent? Thats just nonsense. Its not dying and it doesnt need top NRL players to survive. What it needs is better English jnr pathways, more interest and better tv deals, and/or richer club investors. Wigans owners could afford to go out and sign Tedesco or Mitchell tomorrow if there was no cap in SL. I'd rather see SL clubs chuck a million $'s at Jnr development than a big name NRL player.

again nonsense. SL clubs would murder any NRL reserve grade side.

Sounds good in theory but to move a season back to semi winter to accommodate the signing of the odd decent NRL player will do nothing for the overall strength of the English comp. There's much more important things to work on, namely Jnr development.

 

[Perth Red]

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[Perth Red]

Again there's been plenty of experienced NRL players in their late 20's early 30's go across and be worse than the middle of the road SL player. We signed Brad Takarangi at 29 with 178 NRL games under his belt and he was terrible, far worse than some young kids and players we signed from Div2 we have in the side. Bateman was outstanding at Canberra, been a real plodder since coming back into SL, and is now heading back to NRL if rumours are to be believed. Some players thrive in the English game with its more open attack, others are shite. In fact the best overseas signings we've had tend to be the middle of the road players rather than the bigger rep ones.

No standard. You seem to be suggesting SL is dying because it doesnt sign top NRL talent? Thats just nonsense. Its not dying and it doesnt need top NRL players to survive. What it needs is better English jnr pathways, more interest and better tv deals, and/or richer club investors. Wigans owners could afford to go out and sign Tedesco or Mitchell tomorrow if there was no cap in SL. I'd rather see SL clubs chuck a million $'s at Jnr development than a big name NRL player.

again nonsense. SL clubs would murder any NRL reserve grade side.

Sounds good in theory but to move a season back to semi winter to accommodate the signing of the odd decent NRL player will do nothing for the overall strength of the English comp. There's much more important things to work on, namely Jnr development.

 

[Perth Red]

What would have been good is if NRL hadnt abandoned mid season rep weekends and SL had aligned so both comps closed for 3-4 weeks mid season for test matches in both hemispheres. Could have had Eng come own under and PNG or one of the PI head north for matches.

At the moment SL's problem is squeezing the CC in with an already packed SL season.

 

[RL The greatest game]

I’m suggesting you shorten both the seasons, particularly the ESL.

The only way you can improve the ESL is through talent. Having them directly competing with the NRL by having them run concurrently doesn’t help their competition at all. Anybody with any talent will decide to play in the NRL, not the ESL. That’s just a fact.

The ESL Clubs need to play more games to keep the turn styles turning. They don't have the luxuries of NRL players, and are probably more grounded

 

[Captain Apollo]

The ESL Clubs need to play more games to keep the turn styles turning. They don't have the luxuries of NRL players, and are probably more grounded

Also the intensity in games in the ESL is varied. When its top teams play each other, the intensity of the matches is comparable to NRL matches, but when its one of the top teams versus a mid-table or bottom table side it is more like NSW/Qld cup. As such it is not quite as physically taxing, which might explain why ESL players are able to cope with the physical rigours of playing more games.

 

[siv]

I don't know why so many fans have a ":hard on" in playing the WCC the week after the NRL Grand Final. Sorry but the players in neither hemisphere want it, they want to be able to celebrated winning a comp and the long, hard slog to get there. Add in with international RL now looking to be in the Oct-Nov period, it makes little sense.

I mean in soccer, teams which qualify for the the UEFA Champions League do so for the following season, not the current one, and no one is clamouring to playing it after all the domestic seasons conclude. People have just got to get over this rubbish.

Fri 3rd week of October - as a kickoff to the rep season

Why bacuse the existing contracted players are available until Oct 31

Rather than treating it like a trial game as they today

 

[Perth Red]

Fri 3rd week of October - as a kickoff to the rep season

Why bacuse the existing contracted players are available until Oct 31

Rather than treating it like a trial game as they today

the only way it would work is if prize money was $1million. Only way you’d get players to stay off the booze after winning their respective gf’s!

 

[siv]

the only way it would work is if prize money was $1million. Only way you’d get players to stay off the booze after winning their respective gf’s!

Someone in Dubai will want a tennant for those shinny SWC stadiums next year

 

[Canard]

Someone in Dubai will want a tennant for those shinny SWC stadiums next year

It's in Qatar mate