Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[Colk]

I have severe health problems that make it difficult to attend NRL games. I have to carry insulin, food and a glucometer wherever I go because my immune system destroyed the beta cells in my pancreas that produce insulin. I hate using public toilets and don't want to take my insulin, glucometer and food into one. Nor do I want to perform a glucose reading or inject insulin in front of strangers. I also have arthritis in my neck that makes it difficult to turn my head.

A third Brisbane club isn't for me. It's for Brisbane's large and passionate rugby league community and the NRL.

Perth doesn't have enough rugby league fans to support a team. 5k on PTV. 8k on FTA

I’m sorry to hear about your health problems. You and I might disagree on certain things including a third Brisbane side right now but it is only a forum. I wish you well

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not sure how? Game only makes more coin from internationals and state of origin, and finals
The clubs make money off the season home games

The value of the broadcast deal is based on how many people tune in to watch 73 regular season games on FTA and 204 games on PTV. Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth provide 7k, 12k, and 8k on FTA. When the PTV ratings were broken down by metro audience in 2017 they were 1k, 13k and 5k (based on a sample provided by colly). The amount of money the broadcasters can recoup from advertising is dependent on who is watching and where they're from. If we want to grow the revenue from broadcast rights then saturating the SEQ market will provide more uplift than adding poorly followed team from Adelaide and Perth.

 

[Canard]

I have severe health problems that make it difficult to attend NRL games. I have to carry insulin, food and a glucometer wherever I go because my immune system destroyed the beta cells in my pancreas that produce insulin. I hate using public toilets and don't want to take my insulin, glucometer and food into one. Nor do I want to perform a glucose reading or inject insulin in front of strangers. I also have arthritis in my neck that makes it difficult to turn my head.

A third Brisbane club isn't for me. It's for Brisbane's large and passionate rugby league community and the NRL.

Perth doesn't have enough rugby league fans to support a team. 5k on PTV. 8k on FTA

I know a fair bit about T1D, having a family member recently diagnosed with it, so I know it's not easy to live with.

Can I ask why you don't go the pump route instead of MDI? (To avoid those obvious issues you raised)

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I’m sorry to hear about your health problems. You and I might disagree on certain things including a third Brisbane side right now but it is only a forum. I wish you well

Thank you. I cannot complain. There's people out there who are blind, deaf, paralysed and live in war torn countries. I'm lucky to live in a very generous country that looks after the unfortunate.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Extra content makes the game more money. Bringing in the countries 4th biggest city with the highest individual wealth can make money. The nrl should be about growing the game as well as growing the $ pot.

Perth provides 8k FTA and 5k PTV viewers for regular season games.

 

[Canard]

The value of the broadcast deal is based on how many people tune in to watch 73 regular season games on FTA and 204 games on PTV. Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth provide 7k, 12k, and 8k on FTA. When the PTV ratings were broken down by metro audience in 2017 they were 1k, 13k and 5k (based on a sample provided by colly). The amount of money the broadcasters can recoup from advertising is dependent on who is watching and where they're from. If we want to grow the revenue from broadcast rights then saturating the SEQ market will provide more uplift than adding poorly followed team from Adelaide and Perth.

But don't you think ultimately the game needs to grow outside those areas and avoid stagnation?

I see true expansion as a long term investment, it might take 30 years, but it's worth it. Imagine 300k people tuning into the NRL GF from Melbourne in 1990? Or bigger crowds then have ever been seen in QLD for Origin?

It's hard to see what another team in Brisbane playing out of the same venue as the Broncos and Dolphins offers just yet, besides a different colour jersey.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

afl mouthpiece

lions worried about the impact of the dolphins

hmmm when I said we could crush afl in qld people were mocking me

phins up

Brisbane easts would be the death knell for afl in qld

qld is the afls operation Barbarossa

Brisbane is Stalingrad where we push them back to their bunker in Melbourne

@Colk history references

The best thing about Easts is they're just a few kilometres away from the Lions. Their inclusion will really hurt the Lions' bottom line. Easts also.have junior clubs in Rochedale and Springwood. Lions are trying to muscle in on Springwood.

 

[Maximus]

There’s that too.

There is a bit of cognitive dissonance in lambasting fumbleball expenditure and then saying that we should go to PNG which is way riskier than any of the fumbleball decisions.

Apparently it's ok since they are begging govts to spend the money instead.

 

[Colk]

Apparently it's ok since they are begging govts to spend the money instead.

Yeah and they don’t really want to answer the question that if the government was to stop funding this team what happens?

If we do go and do PNG, I hope it succeeds because I want the game to succeed but in saying that you still have to critically analyse things

 

[Canard]

The best thing about Easts is they're just a few kilometres away from the Lions. Their inclusion will really hurt the Lions' bottom line. Easts also.have junior clubs in Rochedale and Springwood. Lions are trying to muscle in on Springwood.

You mean there Leagues Clubs are in close proximity. I would assume they are competing with each other right now

Why would Easts becoming a NRL suddenly change that scenario?

 

[Pippen94]

Ah yes the didactic play with the supposed moral superiority intertwined.

If you want some moral instruction, here are a few tips.

1. Don’t conflate arguments or misrepresent people’s positions. Most commonly by attributing false statements (an example being that I said Australia is boring. I said Australian cities were vanilla not that the country was vanilla or boring - considerable difference. Now that might be because you don’t read people’s posts or it could be that you’re mendacious. Only you know the answer to that.
2. Practice what you preach. If you want to claim moral superiority over somebody then it is best not to conflate or misrepresent opinions or generally act in a way that is the opposite of the standards you put on other people. You could start by not claiming you don’t attack people and then proceed to do so regularly. Don’t be a hypocrite.
3. Don’t start arguments and then take a break because your feelings are hurt which is another pathetic little moral superiority play. If you don’t like being attacked then go away and hide somewhere and don’t take part
4. Admit that you’re wrong every now and then. For example when you make a false claim, admit that you made a false claim rather than try to twist your way out of it. That is what a smart person would do.

The quarterly colk meltdown..all because you thought it was mute point. I don't think any less of you I can say for certain..

 

[Pippen94]

I have severe health problems that make it difficult to attend NRL games. I have to carry insulin, food and a glucometer wherever I go because my immune system destroyed the beta cells in my pancreas that produce insulin. I hate using public toilets and don't want to take my insulin, glucometer and food into one. Nor do I want to perform a glucose reading or inject insulin in front of strangers. I also have arthritis in my neck that makes it difficult to turn my head.

A third Brisbane club isn't for me. It's for Brisbane's large and passionate rugby league community and the NRL.

Perth doesn't have enough rugby league fans to support a team. 5k on PTV. 8k on FTA

Yep, has nothing to do with any of us. It's what's best for business that counts.

 

[Pippen94]

You support a bid that will need a billion dollars to even be viable for entry, let alone ongoing costs.

..yeah but NRL not paying..

 

[Pippen94]

Yeah that’s worked spectacularly in the past.

Do you operate with such passivity in your day to day dealings?

Making product more appealing to potential buyer is hardly a bad thing.

 

[Pippen94]

By the start of ww2 the nazis were at least five years ahead of the allies

they marched into France and were bombing the crap out of England

then they stupidly broke the non agression pact with Russia and started a war on two fronts

afl was five years ahead of us too. And by over expanding in qld especially but also nsw their advantage will be evaporated

beisbane is their Stalingrad

the afl will need ever increasing money to keep its qld clubs alive as the dolphins draw attention fans. And sponsors

and like the Germans being defeated on allied territory carried over to Germans being weak at home, a collapse in qld will weaken afl hugely

Interest in afl seemed to have drop off this year in Sydney too. Bet they wished they had rich backers for GC & WS

 

[Wb1234]

Isn’t their revenue like $900 million?

Mate if your argument is true then why haven’t the Swans died? You have had nine sides in Sydney for 25 plus years and the Swans have survived. In some areas they have actually grown. Why is that the case?

Why did the Lions crowds go up last year if the Dolphins are meant to hasten their demise?

As a Rugby League supporter who doesn’t like fumbleball I don’t understand why people follow fumbleball. It is a really low skill sport. Then again just because I don’t understand it doesn’t mean that there aren’t people who do like it.

There are obviously people who go to fumbleball games and their crowds have been consistent over the years regardless of how many sides we have had in Brisbane and Sydney. They obviously have their niche support.

In any case, if fumbleball did die out in Queensland or NSW, or League did die in Victoria (neither of which is likely to happen) it will be down to the decisions and administration of that code not what the other does.

Swans need to keep making the finals to stay relevant

lions crowds tanked once they stopped making finals

anyway as usual your missing the point which I’ve mentioned dozens of times on here

the lions suns and gws receive 25 to 28 million pa to survive whilst the strong afl clubs only get 10 to 11 million

that amount will only rise

with the dolphins I expect each qld afl club to need 5 to 10 million extra pa to survive

 

[Wb1234]

The value of the broadcast deal is based on how many people tune in to watch 73 regular season games on FTA and 204 games on PTV. Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth provide 7k, 12k, and 8k on FTA. When the PTV ratings were broken down by metro audience in 2017 they were 1k, 13k and 5k (based on a sample provided by colly). The amount of money the broadcasters can recoup from advertising is dependent on who is watching and where they're from. If we want to grow the revenue from broadcast rights then saturating the SEQ market will provide more uplift than adding poorly followed team from Adelaide and Perth.

In terms of most valuable Australian football clubs to broadcasters

it’s

1. broncos
2. South’s
3. Dolphins

no conicidence where two of the most valuable come from

 

[Wb1234]

Yeah and they don’t really want to answer the question that if the government was to stop funding this team what happens?

If we do go and do PNG, I hope it succeeds because I want the game to succeed but in saying that you still have to critically analyse things

Funding won’t stop

if it does they will be a powerhouse anyway

 

[Wb1234]

I have severe health problems that make it difficult to attend NRL games. I have to carry insulin, food and a glucometer wherever I go because my immune system destroyed the beta cells in my pancreas that produce insulin. I hate using public toilets and don't want to take my insulin, glucometer and food into one. Nor do I want to perform a glucose reading or inject insulin in front of strangers. I also have arthritis in my neck that makes it difficult to turn my head.

A third Brisbane club isn't for me. It's for Brisbane's large and passionate rugby league community and the NRL.

Perth doesn't have enough rugby league fans to support a team. 5k on PTV. 8k on FTA

I enjoy your contributions

you’re attendance or not at nrl games is irrelevant to the points about why brisbane 3 is a good idea for an nrl team

the dolphins have been a stunning success and will only grow even bigger

easts can actually be bigger than them by linking with the jets

we are so lucky to have these amazing clubs we can add to our comp

 

[Maximus]

..yeah but NRL not paying..

The NRL weren't spending the money to prop up the Storm, and yet you and @Wb1234 talk about that all the time.