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Steel Saints

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He seems determined to go Monday night football as the trade off for a shorter nrl season

Reading between the lines, the NRL may only get $3 billion if they include MNF. It will suck for crowds.

Or to look on the bright side, bringing back MNF may be a better option in the next cycle with one pay subscription provider, rather than no MNF and having to pay multiple streaming platforms.
 

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MNF sucked for crowds, but I must admit I liked it, and from what I remember it was the highest rating slot on fox at the time. If it returns they will need to get creative around where it’s played to ensure it at least looks good on tv.
 

BuffaloRules

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MNF sucked for crowds, but I must admit I liked it, and from what I remember it was the highest rating slot on fox at the time. If it returns they will need to get creative around where it’s played to ensure it at least looks good on tv.

Maybe the two new teams can help to shoulder the load on Monday nights?

All the office workers in Perth CBD can head straight to the ground for a 6pm kick off and still be home at a reasonable hour for a school night …. And any night is going out night in Port Moresby
 

Wb1234

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Maybe the two new teams can help to shoulder the load on Monday nights?

All the office workers in Perth CBD can head straight to the ground for a 6pm kick off and still be home at a reasonable hour for a school night …. And any night is going out night in Port Moresby
That’s a good point about png

They could a lot of those time slots and night games are better because of the heat
 

Chief_Chujo

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Maybe the two new teams can help to shoulder the load on Monday nights?

All the office workers in Perth CBD can head straight to the ground for a 6pm kick off and still be home at a reasonable hour for a school night …. And any night is going out night in Port Moresby
That just makes it worse. Now the away teams have extra travel on top of being the last game. NSW teams, storm and raiders would face getting home probably 6am Tuesday at the earliest then potentially having to play again on the Saturday. Warriors would need a bye after. It wouldn't be fair unless all the teams share the burden and I can't see that happening.
 

BuffaloRules

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That just makes it worse. Now the away teams have extra travel on top of being the last game. NSW teams, storm and raiders would face getting home probably 6am Tuesday at the earliest then potentially having to play again on the Saturday. Warriors would need a bye after. It wouldn't be fair unless all the teams share the burden and I can't see that happening.
There will be planty of teams backing up from short turn arounds Saturday to Thursday and Sunday to Friday in any event .., as they do now..it won’t be a situation unique to Monday nights … although this will obviously increase the numbers of teams having to do so
PVL will definitely need to have that private jet ready to go
 
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Chief_Chujo

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There will be planty of teams backing up from short turn arounds Saturday to Thursday and Sunday to Friday in any event .., as they do now..it won’t be a situation unique to Monday nights … although this will obviously increase the numbers of teams doing it
PVL will definitely need to have that private jet ready to go
Balancing the draw will be a nightmare.

I can't imagine MNF is worth that much more than a 3 game Super Sunday to pay tv or running two prime time Friday night games for FTA.
 

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Balancing the draw will be a nightmare.

I can't imagine MNF is worth that much more than a 3 game Super Sunday to pay tv or running two prime time Friday night games for FTA.

They don’t seem to worry about the draw much now … there doesn’t seem much fair about it with some teams being disadvantaged and others not … so I doubt anything will change much there when it becomes more of an issue
 

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They don’t seem to worry about the draw much now … there doesn’t seem much fair about it with some teams being disadvantaged and others not … so I doubt anything will change much there when it becomes more of an issue
It's light years from where it was. Hopefully we don't go backwards
 

Steel Saints

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So a Perth team is most likely coming in. Is the NRL going to ignore the time difference by bringing back Monday night, instead of Sunday night?

Is there a huge amount of a difference from those two timeslots in terms of value in broadcast revenue?
 

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Maybe the two new teams can help to shoulder the load on Monday nights?

All the office workers in Perth CBD can head straight to the ground for a 6pm kick off and still be home at a reasonable hour for a school night …. And any night is going out night in Port Moresby
No ones going to watch sport at 6pm on a Monday night lol
nothing worse than watching a game played in an empty stadium with zero atmosphere. monday nights such a bad idea.
 

BuffaloRules

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No ones going to watch sport at 6pm on a Monday night lol
nothing worse than watching a game played in an empty stadium with zero atmosphere. monday nights such a bad idea.

No one is going to go watch it at 8pm on the East Coast either … Only fair way is that every team carries the can for one home game each ..three Mondays off for Origin week and give it a miss the last round of the year probably sees out the season…. the Warriors can kick off their game at 10pm local …what difference does it make ? No one is turning up anyway right ?
 

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Monday night was a 7pm KO. There is no way they’re going for a 8pm kick off. It’s unpopular on Thursday and shoukd be 7:30pm KO
If it’s Perth could be 830 with 2 hours difference

Doubt they will hold any when it’s 3 hr difference

When the concept was first tried in the 90s? Roosters got some massive crowds but that was with freebies

Clubs should be pricing these cheap and the nrl paying clubs the difference
 

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Anyone got the story below ?

It’s been a fairly silent handover to date, but rugby league has undergone its biggest power shift since the mid-1990s and the result is about to play out explosively.

News Corporation has been the power behind the throne since it took the game over with an avalanche of cash in the bitter Super League war of 1995 to 1997, the catalyst for which was a pay TV battle between Foxtel and Optus.

News owned 65 per cent of Foxtel and Telstra 35 per cent.

Both Foxtel and Optus needed rugby league desperately for their fledgling operations, and News Corporation was prepared to do anything to own it.

Once the unsustainable impasse was over and the game re-united in 1998, News became the dominant co-owner of the NRL, and held the ownership until 2012.

Since then, it has wielded its power as pay TV rights holders via Foxtel’s Fox League, backed up by the significant clout of its metropolitan newspapers in Sydney and Brisbane.

The marriage of holding the rights and owning high-circulating mastheads meant it was a partner not to be crossed lightly if you worked out of NRL headquarters.

But it all ended a month ago when Foxtel’s $3 billion-plus sale to global sports broadcasting giant DAZN was finalised.

News exited because of a groaning $2 billion debt position accumulated by Foxtel.
DAZN, described as the Netflix of sports, is a mystery to Australians.

It broadcasts in markets all over the world, with 20 million global subscribers, predominantly across Europe, where it is the largest digital broadcaster, Asia and the Americas.

DAZN owner Len Blavatnik
DAZN owner Len BlavatnikCREDIT:
It is owned by Ukrainian-British businessman Len Blavatnik, said to be worth around $40 billion. He made his fortune in plastics and chemicals following the break-up of the Soviet Union, and also owns Warner Music, taking it over in similar circumstances to Foxtel as it too was laden with debt.

Since the handover, the spin has been that it will be steady as she goes for Foxtel, a comforting position for the NRL.

It would be naive to fall for it.

Since when has a powerful multibillionaire anywhere in the globe taken over a business and just let it roll along, especially when he had to wipe $2 billion of debt?

Evidence of inevitable change occurred last week when 100 Foxtel staff across marketing and engineering were made redundant.

The ownership change of Foxtel is of enormous significance for Peter V’landys and his NRL Commission.

In News Corporation, it had a familiar ally, with vested interests in the health of the NRL.

Despite the fact News secured a minority 6 per cent stake in DAZN and a board position, it will have little say, beyond guidance.

In DAZN and Blavatnik, the NRL doesn’t know exactly what they’re dealing with.

It does, though, have a significant bargaining chip. The game.

Foxtel boss Patrick Delany with the Australian Rugby League Commission’s Peter V’landys.
Foxtel boss Patrick Delany with the Australian Rugby League Commission’s Peter V’landys.CREDIT: GETTY
Without NRL, Foxtel and its digital sports arm Kayo would lose subscribers hand-over-fist on the eastern seaboard.

But the NRL doesn’t just need DAZN to keep the rights, it needs it to pay big for them – way bigger than News Corporation ever did via Foxtel.

V’landys has been smarting after accepting slightly in excess of $2 billion over five years (2023-27) from Nine and Foxtel in a post-COVID move in late 2021.

The amount was light, and V’landys made a startling admission in this masthead at the time that part of the reason he did the deal was because “if Fox coughs, all the codes catch a cold”.

It came back to bite him.

After he prevented Fox from coughing, the AFL swooped on the healthy company’s good fortune just seven months later and drew $4.5 billion for seven years from Seven and Foxtel, dwarfing the NRL deal by about $200 million a year.

It hurt. He’s determined to make amends, flooding the media with stats for the past year which back the position that the NRL draws bigger audiences and richer engagement than the AFL.

He hates losing to the Victorians, and his battle with them in the racing industry in his role as Racing NSW CEO is the genesis of a move by some powerful figures in that industry to oust him.

V’landys has publicly talked up the possibility of a $3 billion bonanza for the five years from 2027-31.

He has put a target on it, and anything short may be seen as a failure.

That’s where it gets tricky. DAZN is the key, and the NRL has to convince it to pay 50 per cent more than Foxtel did last time, or at the very least be such a keen bidder it forces someone else to.

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Who is the someone else? Free-to-air broadcaster Nine, the publisher of this masthead, and its digital arm Stan could try and go it alone, as could Seven.

You can rule Ten out, and then there’s the fanciful notion Netflix, Amazon or another global streamer could come in.

Splitting the rights up, as the NFL in the US does with different broadcasters on different days, should be dismissed.

Fans would not cop multiple digital subscriptions to watch their beloved game in a cost-of-living crisis.

Meanwhile, DAZN is in the midst of a ding-dong battle in France over the $2.8 billion it paid to broadcast Ligue 1, the top-tier of football.

In the first year of a four-year deal, DAZN says it has lost up to half a million dollars already because the French league inflated the value of the competition and does not want to honour the deal.

DAZN could be the NRL’s new ally, or a formidable foe.
 

BuffaloRules

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where did they resurrect Breen from ? The Herald clearly missing Andrew Webster these days

If the only two competitors are Nine and DAZN .. don’t expect much of an increase …

He says Seven are an option but anyone else is “fanciful “ …. If 7 are a genuine competitor to pick up the NRL rights in addition to their AFL commitments, I’ll walk from Palm Beach to Wollongong … they would be a one night a week option at best
 

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