Weststigers Wasteland

[Das Hassler]

Just want to say sorry guys in regards to the constant pop up vid , its beyond my control and any complaints please use the thread in the Go Ahead Ask Us Anything forum, and include a detailed report.

I did post what I thought was a reasonable and polite reply there to somebody about the popup but it was deleted for being unhelpful...fair enough
seems to have been dealt with which definitely was helpful...thank you

 

[Nutz]

Just want to say sorry guys in regards to the constant pop up vid , its beyond my control and any complaints please use the thread in the Go Ahead Ask Us Anything forum, and include a detailed report.

You don't have to oppologise macca, we all know it's noones fault. It's not personal and we appreciate all you do, your a great example of a good moderator.

 

[Nutz]

@TheDefinitionOfMadness

In relation to our long conversations regarding head contact in rugby league I thought of this when I saw this on the news tonight.
Is this sport for brave people or brainless twits?

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www.news.com.au

 

[TheDefinitionOfMadness]

Anyone getting involved in that is asking for trouble. And a headache. If they asked that neuro......whatever bloke if he though league should be banned I bet he'd say yes. These are the sort of expert witnesses who'll give evidence when there is a trial. It'll be impossible to counter any evidence they give. That's why I was saying the NRL need to take steps to say they've made the game as safe as it possibly can be.

 

[Tiger05]

Solar uptake a clue to why Australians chose batteries over nuclear

Australian voters have overwhelmingly chosen household batteries over nuclear, rejecting the Coalition's anti-renewables agenda.

www.abc.net.au

I think this is important to read. I posted a while back about the energy transformation. There is a lot of misinformation out there. It's happening anyway and it has too.

This is not a culture war issue. It's reality and anyone trying to stop or push back on the energy transformation is basically evil. I used to be a climate change denier but I educated myself on the topic. Changing your belief when facts prove you wrong is the only way for a rational human being to act.

I'll leave you with this point from chat GPT:-

The question was "can you please provide a breakdown on what no action towards remediating climate change would like this century"

The answer was:-

Certainly. A "no action" scenario on climate change—sometimes referred to as a business-as-usual (BAU) pathway—assumes little to no significant global effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. This would likely result in severe and widespread impacts across environmental, economic, and social systems. Here’s a breakdown of what that could look like throughout this century:

---

Climate and Temperature​

• Global average temperatures could rise by 3°C to 5°C (5.4°F to 9°F) above pre-industrial levels by 2100.
• Increased frequency, duration, and severity of heatwaves.
• Possible crossing of climate tipping points (e.g., irreversible ice sheet loss, Amazon dieback, thawing permafrost).

---

Sea Level Rise​

• Projected sea level rise of 0.6 to 1.1 meters (2 to 3.6 feet) by 2100.
• Risk of inundation for coastal cities, small island nations, and low-lying countries (e.g., Bangladesh, Maldives).
• Saltwater intrusion will affect freshwater supplies and agriculture.

---

Extreme Weather Events​

• Increase in hurricanes, typhoons, and cyclones intensity.
• More frequent and severe droughts and floods.
• Wildfire seasons lengthening and intensifying in areas like California, Australia, and the Mediterranean.

---

Ecosystems and Biodiversity​

• High risk of mass extinction for up to 1 million species.
• Coral reefs (including the Great Barrier Reef) likely to be almost entirely destroyed.
• Forests may become carbon sources instead of sinks due to drought, fires, and pest outbreaks.

---

Food and Water Security​

• Yields of staple crops (wheat, maize, rice) expected to decline, especially in tropical and subtropical regions.
• Water scarcity could affect billions, especially in already arid areas.
• Fisheries collapse in some regions due to ocean warming and acidification.

---

Human Health​

• Increased incidence of vector-borne diseases (e.g., malaria, dengue).
• Heat-related deaths, especially among vulnerable populations.
• Air pollution from fossil fuel use and wildfires worsens respiratory issues.

---

Economic and Social Disruption​

• Global GDP could shrink by 10–20% or more by 2100.
• Climate migration could displace hundreds of millions.
• Increased risk of conflict over water, food, and habitable land.
• Disproportionate impacts on low-income countries and marginalized communities.

---

Geopolitical Stability and National Security​

• Rising tensions over resources like freshwater and arable land.
• More frequent humanitarian crises from climate-induced disasters.
• Potential destabilization of fragile states due to compounding stresses.

---

This BAU scenario is not a certainty—but it represents the likely outcome if governments, businesses, and societies fail to meaningfully reduce emissions and adapt. Would you like a visual timeline or region-specific impacts next?

 

[Tiger05]

@TheDefinitionOfMadness

In relation to our long conversations regarding head contact in rugby league I thought of this when I saw this on the news tonight.
Is this sport for brave people or brainless twits?

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www.news.com.au

I've watched some of this on social media. It's insane.

 

[Nutz]

I've watched some of this on social media. It's insane.

I think we sign the winner so he can do nothing but crash balls in the red zone and back fence kick-offs.

 

[Tiger05]

I think we sign the winner so he can do nothing but crash balls in the red zone and back fence kick-offs.

I showed my Kiwi mate that stuff and he stated it's for guys who couldn't make the team.

 

[Nutz]

@Vic Mackey
Hey mate, you were wondering how to get conversation alerts (DM). This does the trick for me.

If you go to your account and select preferences.
Scroll down and select.....

1. Enable Push Notifications.
2. Tick alert and push boxes like this below........

 

[Nutz]

Solar uptake a clue to why Australians chose batteries over nuclear

Australian voters have overwhelmingly chosen household batteries over nuclear, rejecting the Coalition's anti-renewables agenda.

www.abc.net.au

I think this is important to read. I posted a while back about the energy transformation. There is a lot of misinformation out there. It's happening anyway and it has too.

This is not a culture war issue. It's reality and anyone trying to stop or push back on the energy transformation is basically evil. I used to be a climate change denier but I educated myself on the topic. Changing your belief when facts prove you wrong is the only way for a rational human being to act.

I'll leave you with this point from chat GPT:-

The question was "can you please provide a breakdown on what no action towards remediating climate change would like this century"

The answer was:-

Certainly. A "no action" scenario on climate change—sometimes referred to as a business-as-usual (BAU) pathway—assumes little to no significant global effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. This would likely result in severe and widespread impacts across environmental, economic, and social systems. Here’s a breakdown of what that could look like throughout this century:

---

Climate and Temperature​

• Global average temperatures could rise by 3°C to 5°C (5.4°F to 9°F) above pre-industrial levels by 2100.
• Increased frequency, duration, and severity of heatwaves.
• Possible crossing of climate tipping points (e.g., irreversible ice sheet loss, Amazon dieback, thawing permafrost).

---

Sea Level Rise​

• Projected sea level rise of 0.6 to 1.1 meters (2 to 3.6 feet) by 2100.
• Risk of inundation for coastal cities, small island nations, and low-lying countries (e.g., Bangladesh, Maldives).
• Saltwater intrusion will affect freshwater supplies and agriculture.

---

Extreme Weather Events​

• Increase in hurricanes, typhoons, and cyclones intensity.
• More frequent and severe droughts and floods.
• Wildfire seasons lengthening and intensifying in areas like California, Australia, and the Mediterranean.

---

Ecosystems and Biodiversity​

• High risk of mass extinction for up to 1 million species.
• Coral reefs (including the Great Barrier Reef) likely to be almost entirely destroyed.
• Forests may become carbon sources instead of sinks due to drought, fires, and pest outbreaks.

---

Food and Water Security​

• Yields of staple crops (wheat, maize, rice) expected to decline, especially in tropical and subtropical regions.
• Water scarcity could affect billions, especially in already arid areas.
• Fisheries collapse in some regions due to ocean warming and acidification.

---

Human Health​

• Increased incidence of vector-borne diseases (e.g., malaria, dengue).
• Heat-related deaths, especially among vulnerable populations.
• Air pollution from fossil fuel use and wildfires worsens respiratory issues.

---

Economic and Social Disruption​

• Global GDP could shrink by 10–20% or more by 2100.
• Climate migration could displace hundreds of millions.
• Increased risk of conflict over water, food, and habitable land.
• Disproportionate impacts on low-income countries and marginalized communities.

---

Geopolitical Stability and National Security​

• Rising tensions over resources like freshwater and arable land.
• More frequent humanitarian crises from climate-induced disasters.
• Potential destabilization of fragile states due to compounding stresses.

---

This BAU scenario is not a certainty—but it represents the likely outcome if governments, businesses, and societies fail to meaningfully reduce emissions and adapt. Would you like a visual timeline or region-specific impacts next?

I missed this sorry.
I try to do my bit Tiger but find the Net Zero Greenhouse Gas Emissions report gobblygoop. It's PDF and can't attach.

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www.pmc.gov.au

I wish they could make these papers user friendly for us dumb arses.
What is your advice for the average Joe who is concerned about the planet?

 

[Tiger05]

I missed this sorry.
I try to do my bit Tiger but find the Net Zero Greenhouse Gas Emissions report gobblygoop. It's PDF and can't attach.

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www.pmc.gov.au

I wish they could make these papers user friendly for us dumb arses.
What is your advice for the average Joe who is concerned about the planet?

That appears to be a pretty lengthy tome. That report doesn't appear to be based on getting to zero emissions though.

The issue itself in a lot of ways is not really that complex. I mean the climate is massively complex but the issue of global warming is fairly simple. More CO2 results in increased temperatures and unpredictable weather. The issue is the massive amount of misinformation out there. At this point you'd have be insane to think climate change isn't real and you'd have to be evil to argue that we shouldn't do anything. I posted what the world could look like with no action and it's so bad.

There is plenty we don't understand in detail as well but it doesn't change the big picture.

To be fair basically everyone except for people like Trump know climate change is a potential mass catastrophe event like a world wide nuclear war or something similar now. The misinformation is now based on trying to demonize renewables. I really don't understand it. I think it's like smoking and it's the fossil fuel companies pushing misinformation and people who are into culture war bullshit lap it up.

I actually was a climate change denier but I educated myself on the topic and then I found it far more interesting to look at the energy transition. I find this fascinating. Renewables are now basically the cheapest energy source available and they are better for the environment.

The issue with solar is intermittency but batteries are a way to manage this. In Australia though we are lucky to have a good environment and solar is going to be the big factor in our transition.

There are other little points that are fascinating though. Our homes, our cars etc can easily run off clean energy. The technology is basically good enough today. I think we'll end up with cheaper cleaner energy over the next 10-20 years. The thing is planes and long distance transport won't work off batteries plus solar. The weight of the batteries will be too much for the long distance trip. We don't have solutions for these use cases. Cement is another problem.

Just think about it though. I think within 10-20 years the world apart from a few bits and pieces will probably be running off clean energy apart from the use cases that at this point we can't solve. The change now has been huge. I posted another article a while back about how much change has already happened.

The libs nuclear policy was simply insane. It was a tax on all Australians to give to the fossil fuel companies and the only people it appealed to are culture war morons.

The energy transition is fascinating because it's huge and it's happening now. Energy transformations in the past have taken like centuries. It's now happening over a much shorter time period.

 

[Nutz]

What's the issue with cement?

There have been times in the past where the earth has experienced really high temperatures but since the mid 1800's I believe the earth's surface has warmed by 1⁰.
I'm not naive to suggest this is not because of human involvement.
While the Sun is not getting hotter, the amount of radiation being trapped in Earth's atmosphere is increasing due to the burning of fossil fuels.
So it's the fossil fuel issue that we need to fix would you not agree?
If you say yes, then what do I do?
I wanted to read that report to see is there was a trend happening but as I said it's not user friendly for people like me.

 

[Nutz]

Here's a few things that that we/I can do to help reduce greenhouse emissions.​

1. Spread the word, I can do this!​

Encourage your friends, family and co-workers to reduce their carbon pollution

2. Keep up the political pressure, how?​

Lobby local politicians and businesses to support efforts to cut emissions and reduce carbon pollution.

3. Transform your transport, does this apply to my walker?​

Transport accounts for around ¼ of all greenhouse gas emissions.
Leave your car at home and walk or cycle whenever possible. Easier said that done but could you do it? The answer could be....yes.

4. Rein in your power use, I can do this!​

If you can, switch to a zero-carbon or renewable energy provider. Install solar panels on your roof. Be more efficient: turn your heating down a degree or two, if possible. Switch off appliances and lights when you are not using them. Don't turn TV off during a Wests Tigers game.

5. Tweak your diet, yuk, do I have to?​

Eat more plant-based meals – your body and the planet will thank you. YUK, but I'll try.

6. Don’t waste food, I don't ​

People globally waste 1 billion tonnes of food each year, which accounts for 10% of Global Greenhouse Emissions.

7. Plant trees ~ obvious​

Let's do this!!!
While we are at it, save the koalas, platypus and Leichhardt Oval.

Authorised and written by Nutz on behalf of those who give a damn.

 

[Tiger05]

In all seriousness I think with cement they cannot produce it without emitting a bunch of CO2. We (the world) use a lot of cement.

CO₂ emissions by fuel or industry type

An interactive visualization from Our World in Data.

ourworldindata.org

I love our world in data. You can fact check all sorts of stuff.

The question about what to do is a tough one. I try and use electric stuff rather than gas stuff but I'm pretty shit at that. You can eat less meat. Meat is shit for the environment. Travel is shit for the environment. Drive less. Don't fly. Consume less.

The thing is you can do all these things and it won't have any impact. It's a whole world problem. Australia is such a tiny little blip in the ocean in relation to fixing the issue. India and China dwarf us.

I bought a little electric cooker. I use it all the time. No one else in my family uses it. The kids and my wife just ignore me.

 

[Pezz70]

Here's a few things that that we/I can do to help reduce greenhouse emissions.​

1. Spread the word, I can do this!​

Encourage your friends, family and co-workers to reduce their carbon pollution

2. Keep up the political pressure, how?​

Lobby local politicians and businesses to support efforts to cut emissions and reduce carbon pollution.

3. Transform your transport, does this apply to my walker?​

Transport accounts for around ¼ of all greenhouse gas emissions.
Leave your car at home and walk or cycle whenever possible. Easier said that done but could you do it? The answer could be....yes.

4. Rein in your power use, I can do this!​

If you can, switch to a zero-carbon or renewable energy provider. Install solar panels on your roof. Be more efficient: turn your heating down a degree or two, if possible. Switch off appliances and lights when you are not using them. Don't turn TV off during a Wests Tigers game.

5. Tweak your diet, yuk, do I have to?​

Eat more plant-based meals – your body and the planet will thank you. YUK, but I'll try.

6. Don’t waste food, I don't ​

People globally waste 1 billion tonnes of food each year, which accounts for 10% of Global Greenhouse Emissions.

7. Plant trees ~ obvious​

Let's do this!!!
While we are at it, save the koalas, platypus and Leichhardt Oval.

Authorised and written by Nutz on behalf of those who give a damn.

Thought this was a footy forum.

 

[Nutz]

Thought this was a footy forum.

Pezz, there are threads for a lot of topics, this one was started by a moderator to dump stuff in that is anything but football. If you don't like it just don't read it mate.

 

[Nutz]

The question about what to do is a tough one. I try and use electric stuff rather than gas stuff but I'm pretty shit at that.

Though Australia's electricity production is our largest source of greenhouse gas pollution.
The majority of people that protest, drive home in the exhaust emitting cars then turn on all the lights, turn the TV on and nuke a tv dinner.
The sooner the whole world turns to renewable sources, with wind and solar energy we will be chasing our tails imo.
The biggest hurdle is our society's way of life and the $billion dollar$ companies that drive it. Make that a trillion.

 

[macnaz]

lol. you guys are overdosing on the coolaid .

 

[Nutz]

lol. you guys are overdosing on the coolaid .

It's like supporting Wests Tigers, what's the difference

 

[macnaz]

It's like supporting Wests Tigers, what's the difference

Pretty well , if you believe Weststigers will be successful you would potentially believe anything