Match Discussion: Round 22 vs Canterbury @ CommBank Stadium, Parramatta / Burramattagal

[Tiger05]

In truth Doueihi has shown he is just as...or more likely to turn a game as Galvin is now or even when he was eith us!

I think he has massively outperfomed Galvin. I don't understand offering Galvin big dollars and AD a pittance. It's so dumb.

 

[Tiger05]

Some will say they took no offence.....but there will always be some who do. Remember that kids go to the game and just do not need to see that stuff.....we need to be better. While its not a hanging offence, it is something that if we ignore it, it speaks of a poor culture in our club.

It's immature and unprofessional. I just wonder if there is no adult in the team telling them not to be stupid. They mush have planned it.

It sounds like kids to me and that isn't a compliment.

My take is play hard and be completely and utterly disciplined. Give the media and other teams nothing.

 

[Nutz]

I do have one negative and it is the arabic finger issue.

Totally agree with all your comments Wiz.
The finger gesture imo would be more recognisable, mainly to children if it was the rude middle finger gesture. It would have looked really bad on TV.
So Arabic or not, there's not excuse. There's a reason, as you all probably know, why the single finger, whatever version, has a degrading sexual aspect to it.
For me, the Arabic gesture looked like some modern day gesture that young folk use in rap music or street language these days, us older folk wouldn't have a clue
At first, I thought it was all fun and game and not an insult.
However, I find it's like pointing a bone at an aboriginal person. Most wouldn't have a clue that it is one of the most terrifying thing to do to a full blooded indigenous person. It has been said that to point the bone will cause the victim terrifying grief. Unless someone explained what it meant, people wouldn't react.

bone-pointing

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Also, if it is such a terrible Arabic gesture, what's that say about AD and Twally. Surely this must have been been gestured before with their knowledge. If it was so terrible, why haven't they intervened and told the perpetrators not to do it or should they feel insulted.
Nip it in the bud Richo.
Quickly make a presser offering a sincere apology and say that the club as a whole will be educated about the ramifications of these gestures.
The sooner the better so we can put this to bed.

 

[Nutz]

I think he has massively outperfomed Galvin. I don't understand offering Galvin big dollars and AD a pittance. It's so dumb.

You've always been adamant on this before the Galvin-gate and it turns out you were spot on.

 

[Tigerm]

The only issue I have with AD at lock is that we have a smaller pack and we've been rolled this season. We muscled up against the Dogs but we played Sione at lock. In stating that I think maybe Sione was playing on an edge and Seyfarth in the middle.

I agree though that AD running it in the middle suits his game. There was a recent article on here I think where Cheika called him a running half. I can see him playing that role as well.

The thing with AD is that it's hard to trust him. This has been his best season but he has played blinders at other times and then been terrible for long periods of time.

Agree, but that can be every player ever signed by any sport.
Anyway, if it's true what's been reported, we have given him an offer with an increased extension (to 2 yrs) and Richo has said it will be the last offer we give him?
As our premium GK, I just hope we have another solution, if it goes to shit.

 

[Nutz]

The only issue I have with AD at lock is that we have a smaller pack and we've been rolled this season. We muscled up against the Dogs but we played Sione at lock. In stating that I think maybe Sione was playing on an edge and Seyfarth in the middle.

I agree though that AD running it in the middle suits his game.

I think people use middle and edge as a defined role.
These days they are more often than not intertwined. Players tend to play where they are best served.
I read an article several years ago on another forum that explained it very well and it was how I was coached.
He used the terms corridors and attacking shapes. As far as shapes go, I know most people are aware of the linking role locks play, no better performed by Yeo.
However corridors are like drawing lines from both posts, end to end. That traditionally describes the middle However the goal posts change as they say. So to add to that, middles are not so much restricted to centre field. Haas has often ran at an edge (the corridor either side of the centre one) trying to tie up the cover.
Fafita is listed as an second row/edge but spends most of his attacking out in the centres then moves into more of the centre corridor when defending. He's big and fast enough to play in every position
So ref to your good post, the only thing I'll add is your reference to his D.
I think he's come on leaps and bounds defensively. If our season was over, I'd be playing AD at lock to learn the trade.
I think he's a natural ball playing lock like Yeo but has the advantage of being quicker and has an awkward running style which was beautifully displayed on Sunday. He sort of gives us three ball-player to cover all bases.
On a dry track in the past, AD has been known to ball hog and gets burnt on the outside. This is weird considering that once he gets going, he's one of the quickest players in the league. However, closer to the edge, this is not as big an issue.
we need that run first mentality and straighter running.
I must say everyoneis playing more direct, great to see.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

I know plenty of Muslims. They've made jokes at my expense when we are out at a restaurant and there is a loud noise that I think it's a bomb.

Clive James hosted a BBC programme called Saturday Night Clive. Showcased TV from around the world.

Included clips from the Egyptian version of Candid Camera. A bloke sidled up to customers in a shop, put down a suitcase, then ran like hell for the door. Same genial bloke then sat in a studio laughing his head off at footage of terrified people scurrying in all directions. Intriguing sense of humour.

 

[WA Tiger]

Totally agree with all your comments Wiz.
The finger gesture imo would be more recognisable, mainly to children if it was the rude middle finger gesture. It would have looked really bad on TV.
So Arabic or not, there's not excuse. There's a reason, as you all probably know, why the single finger, whatever version, has a degrading sexual aspect to it.
For me, the Arabic gesture looked like some modern day gesture that young folk use in rap music or street language these days, us older folk wouldn't have a clue
At first, I thought it was all fun and game and not an insult.
However, I find it's like pointing a bone at an aboriginal person. Most wouldn't have a clue that it is one of the most terrifying thing to do to a full blooded indigenous person. It has been said that to point the bone will cause the victim terrifying grief. Unless someone explained what it meant, people wouldn't react.

bone-pointing

I examined about the mean of bone-pointing.The following is a quotation. Bone pointing is an ancient curse used by the aborigines of Australia. The vengeful person takes a kangaroo bone, carves a…

gorogorononntaro25.wordpress.com

Also, if it is such a terrible Arabic gesture, what's that say about AD and Twally. Surely this must have been been gestured before with their knowledge. If it was so terrible, why haven't they intervened and told the perpetrators not to do it or should they feel insulted.
Nip it in the bud Richo.
Quickly make a presser offering a sincere apology and say that the club as a whole will be educated about the ramifications of these gestures.
The sooner the better so we can put this to bed.

I know if some guy pointed a bone at me, I’d definitely be offended..

 

[Nutz]

I know if some guy pointed a bone at me, I’d definitely be offended..

That's the best post I've ever read on LU.

 

[Tiger Ted]

The only issue I have with AD at lock is that we have a smaller pack and we've been rolled this season. We muscled up against the Dogs but we played Sione at lock. In stating that I think maybe Sione was playing on an edge and Seyfarth in the middle.

I agree though that AD running it in the middle suits his game. There was a recent article on here I think where Cheika called him a running half. I can see him playing that role as well.

The thing with AD is that it's hard to trust him. This has been his best season but he has played blinders at other times and then been terrible for long periods of time.

I certainly don’t trust him.Hes predominantly been substandard while he has been at Concord.All the stars aligned for him against the dogs & he’s playing for a contract.I reckon Richo has deliberately capped offer at 350k/yr coz he knows f he gets into a bidding war he will be playing into the oxygen thief managers hands.The truth is that the pissant has no intention of advising AD to remain at Concord.

 

[Tiger Ted]

I think people use middle and edge as a defined role.
These days they are more often than not intertwined. Players tend to play where they are best served.
I read an article several years ago on another forum that explained it very well and it was how I was coached.
He used the terms corridors and attacking shapes. As far as shapes go, I know most people are aware of the linking role locks play, no better performed by Yeo.
However corridors are like drawing lines from both posts, end to end. That traditionally describes the middle However the goal posts change as they say. So to add to that, middles are not so much restricted to centre field. Haas has often ran at an edge (the corridor either side of the centre one) trying to tie up the cover.
Fafita is listed as an second row/edge but spends most of his attacking out in the centres then moves into more of the centre corridor when defending. He's big and fast enough to play in every position
So ref to your good post, the only thing I'll add is your reference to his D.
I think he's come on leaps and bounds defensively. If our season was over, I'd be playing him there to learn the trade.
I think he's a natural ball playing lock like Yeo but has the advantage of being quicker and has an awkward running style which was beautifully on display on Sunday. He sort of gives us three ball-players.
On a dry track in the past, AD has been known to ball hog and burnt on the outside. This is weird considering that once he gets going, he's one of the quickest players in the league. Closer to the middle/edge, this is not an issue, we need that run first mentality and straighter running.

I reckon he’s sluggish when he moves laterally due to the concern re tearing the ACL.I say this with experience coz after I ruptured mine many yrs ago I was hesitant when suddenly having to change direction or move laterally.Conversely I would never be concerned about running at top speed when running in a straight line.

 

[Tiger05]

I think he's come on leaps and bounds defensively.

I'm still waiting for him to miss a tackle but geez he was defensively great on the weekend. A massive improvement.

 

[Tiger05]

I reckon he’s sluggish when he moves laterally due to the concern re tearing the ACL.I say this with experience coz after I ruptured mine many yrs ago I was hesitant when suddenly having to change direction or move laterally.Conversely I would never be concerned about running at top speed when running in a straight line.

This makes sense. There was a time earlier this season where they threw the ball out to him on an edge and it was obvious he didn't have the pace to do anything with the ball in hand.

Then on the weekend they couldn't gain on him at all.

 

[AKA Das Hassler]

This makes sense. There was a time earlier this season where they threw the ball out to him on an edge and it was obvious he didn't have the pace to do anything with the ball in hand.

Then on the weekend they couldn't gain on him at all.

I reckon it wouldn't have been that long ago that he's gotten his leg strength and match fitness/ reactions back to where they needed to be. He should be much quicker now as he showed to be the case.

 

[Tigerm]

Proud Lebanese bulldogs winger Jacob Kiraz spotted fellow Lebanese tigers player Adam Doueihi across commbank stadium before the game.
No hugs, no fancy handshakes, just a "lek khawd" from across the field with a smile that was part, we're going to smash you later' and part, 'love you, brother'
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As I said earlier, it's a storm in a teacup, imo.

 

[Tigerm]

I think this might have meant something to the lads, the crowd is going off as well.

 

[Someone2]

‘F***ing Dogs’: Tigers hit back with abuse claim as NRL asked to probe players’ offensive gesture

‘F***ing Dogs’: Tigers hit back with abuse claim as NRL asked to probe players’ offensive gesture

www.foxsports.com.au

Tigers players have claimed that they made the gesture as retaliation for relentless abuse from Bulldogs fans through the game, CODE Sports reported.

The term “khwad” means “take that” in Arabic however, in some contexts, it has an offensive meaning similar to “flipping the bird”. The translation could be as strong as “f*** you”.
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Do other clubs get this type of scrutiny?

What they think think they only ones to get heckles by the opposition ?

tiger fans havnt had many wins to celebrate these past 4yrs
Now the players carrying on like clowns and spoil it

 

[Tigerm]

What they think think they only ones to get heckles by the opposition ?

tiger fans havnt had many wins to celebrate these past 4yrs
Now the players carrying on like clowns and spoil it

Thanks for your input, now f**k off and go and find a spot for your next spoon.

 

[Nutz]

I certainly don’t trust him.Hes predominantly been substandard while he has been at Concord.All the stars aligned for him against the dogs & he’s playing for a contract.I reckon Richo has deliberately capped offer at 350k/yr coz he knows f he gets into a bidding war he will be playing into the oxygen thief managers hands.The truth is that the pissant has no intention of advising AD to remain at Concord.

Contract values goes up after taking into account a lot of factors, such as the number NRL games, his age, injury liability, suspension history, health, kicking average and representative history etc etc.
However, the final figure is what club thinks his value is to them, and what he brings to the club.
The average NRL contract is around 350k but Adam is a good goal kicker, and is a utility player, has a great 5th tackle high long ball, and has Represented Lebanon. These are just some of his attributes.
Based on just these attributes, he is worth 500k to our side imo.
I think 350k is insulting considering the cap always increases.

 

[Tiger05]

Based on just these attributes, he is worth 500k to our side imo.
I think 350k is insulting considering the cap always increases.

I reckon 500 is fair for a couple of years. The 350k especially with the tough guy act is rude.