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Andrew Webster

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This is why even though CHT has his strengths, having a 6 that isn't a playmaker is a problem, we're relying too heavily on the 7 and Boyd is 3rd down the list.
Does Egan have a kicking game? I see Clark has tried a couple recently. He used to be our half in the under 20s a few years back.

We've needed some variation since our 2023 blueprint that used to orbit around SJ.
 
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The TMM situation is so weird

Since Round 1, pretty much everybody expect Andrew Webster thought TMM should have been starting in the halves, or at least in the 17, but Webster was being vindicated by his results

Now the form has fallen off, and TMM is getting some game time, they clearly look a better side while he is on the park. If he had played all season, would top 4 already be locked away ?

Also, he admitted he had been pulling Halasima back. That handbrake must be released now to be an threat in the finals
 

Big Marn

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Also, he admitted he had been pulling Halasima back. That handbrake must be released now to be an threat in the finals
And he explained why he had been pulling him back,which was completely reasonable. It was an ideal time to freshen him up in time for the playoffs, as he and Roger are the only x factor in the team.
 

SpaceMonkey

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And he explained why he had been pulling him back,which was completely reasonable. It was an ideal time to freshen him up in time for the playoffs, as he and Roger are the only x factor in the team.
Plus Leka overplayed his hand in a couple of games and it was probably good to give him a check to keep him grounded. Webster upped his minutes again this week so it wasn’t like he was wasted.
 
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The TMM situation is so weird

Since Round 1, pretty much everybody expect Andrew Webster thought TMM should have been starting in the halves, or at least in the 17, but Webster was being vindicated by his results

Now the form has fallen off, and TMM is getting some game time, they clearly look a better side while he is on the park. If he had played all season, would top 4 already be locked away ?

Also, he admitted he had been pulling Halasima back. That handbrake must be released now to be an threat in the finals
I think TMM/Metcalf could have absolutely worked, although that might have taken the ball out of Metcalf's hands.

CHT is improving, he's not a bad player and he's had some significant moments. It's a difficult one
 

Grizzman

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I think TMM/Metcalf could have absolutely worked, although that might have taken the ball out of Metcalf's hands.

CHT is improving, he's not a bad player and he's had some significant moments. It's a difficult one
I feel like CHT is a somewhat an enigma. He's definitely not flashy but he's been involved in many more clutch plays that people remember. He's managed 18 try assists (top 10) and he's one of the best defensive five eighths in the comp (imo) and has made try-saving or momentum changing tackles in plenty of games. His kicking game has improved a lot this year (particularly his attacking kicks).
However, I believe he needs to be paired with a dynamic half to set off his skill set. His partnership with Metcalfe was really developing before Metcalfes injury.
 

Meth

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I feel like CHT is a somewhat an enigma. He's definitely not flashy but he's been involved in many more clutch plays that people remember. He's managed 18 try assists (top 10) and he's one of the best defensive five eighths in the comp (imo) and has made try-saving or momentum changing tackles in plenty of games. His kicking game has improved a lot this year (particularly his attacking kicks).
However, I believe he needs to be paired with a dynamic half to set off his skill set. His partnership with Metcalfe was really developing before Metcalfes injury.

This is excellent
 

Matua

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I feel like CHT is a somewhat an enigma. He's definitely not flashy but he's been involved in many more clutch plays that people remember. He's managed 18 try assists (top 10) and he's one of the best defensive five eighths in the comp (imo) and has made try-saving or momentum changing tackles in plenty of games. His kicking game has improved a lot this year (particularly his attacking kicks).
However, I believe he needs to be paired with a dynamic half to set off his skill set. His partnership with Metcalfe was really developing before Metcalfes injury.
CHT has had a great season, you could argue he's finally started to live up to his younger days hype - as I've said previously I think he's ball playing loose forward rather than a half though.
 
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I feel like CHT is a somewhat an enigma. He's definitely not flashy but he's been involved in many more clutch plays that people remember. He's managed 18 try assists (top 10) and he's one of the best defensive five eighths in the comp (imo) and has made try-saving or momentum changing tackles in plenty of games. His kicking game has improved a lot this year (particularly his attacking kicks).
However, I believe he needs to be paired with a dynamic half to set off his skill set. His partnership with Metcalfe was really developing before Metcalfes injury.
Yeah I think that's a great post. He's a 6, he's not required to be the flashy player if he has the game-breaking talent next to him, which he did with Metcalf. Those two were building an admirable combination. I feel as if CHT is a very steady player - his best and worst game aren't a million miles apart. That's not a bad thing when you think of the history of our halves. He would have been great with peak SJ. He won't step on a game-leading 7's toes.

I don't think it's IMO with his defense, he definitely is in the top tier. He missed a bad one a couple of weeks ago, I think the Titans game? But otherwise he is rock solid.

I guess again, like a previous post on another thread, is that we have too many solid players in our spine who aren't potential game breakers. But again, we had Metcalf who provided that. It's probably something we need to think about going forward, as to whether our spine has enough spark in it or whether we back ourselves to be the defensive beast that we kinda were in the first half of the year and win games 18-10.
 
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CHT has had a great season, you could argue he's finally started to live up to his younger days hype - as I've said previously I think he's ball playing loose forward rather than a half though.
I don't think there's any doubt CHT should and will be a 13 in the next 3-5 years. Clark is going way too well for that to happen soon, or could they carry both on field?
 

Matua

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I don't think there's any doubt CHT should and will be a 13 in the next 3-5 years. Clark is going way too well for that to happen soon, or could they carry both on field?
Yeah, Clark going so well there means it's effectively a non starter currently. I don't want them to carry both, as I think that is just leading us back to the little man bench that was successful in 2023 and spectacularly unsuccessful in 2024.
 

Matua

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I just looked up Gannon's wiki, he has some size to him. But, I also clicked too that he's actually Aussie as well.
 

nswarrior

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I am Webby’s biggest fan - I think he is one of the best coaches we have ever had.

The team has resilience like never before - we would have lost that game against Manly by 50 any other year.

I am happy with the season, a higher than expected finish at 6 and at times when we had Barnett and Metcalf hopes were higher.

Our forwards are looking strong for future years but our backline is just not good enough.

Webby’s over conservative nature has also back fired - I was at the Bulldogs game and couldn’t believe Lussick played the 1st 50 odd minutes while Healy was on the bench.

Webster seems to be a clever guy -and will learn and the management is better than ever so things are looking good.

Sign a couple of star backs though!!!
 

Manu Vatuvei

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I still don’t understand what goes through Webster’s head with a lot of stuff. Clark has been our best player all year and he drops him back to 40 minutes for the important games? Ford is an obvious handbrake who clearly gets worse the more minutes he plays, and Webster is dead set on playing him 70 straight? Plus just the style we play generally. Webster keeps saying ‘if we play our football we’ll win’ yet time and again he’s proved spectacularly wrong. We can successfully ‘play our football’ 90% of the game, dominate 90% of the game, and still lose by 20 because ‘our football’ has no interest in the scoring parts of the game (attacking or defending).

I really feel like Webster is an expert at implementing a dumb strategy but in a very disciplined and enthusiastic way.
 

JJ

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I still don’t understand what goes through Webster’s head with a lot of stuff. Clark has been our best player all year and he drops him back to 40 minutes for the important games? Ford is an obvious handbrake who clearly gets worse the more minutes he plays, and Webster is dead set on playing him 70 straight? Plus just the style we play generally. Webster keeps saying ‘if we play our football we’ll win’ yet time and again he’s proved spectacularly wrong. We can successfully ‘play our football’ 90% of the game, dominate 90% of the game, and still lose by 20 because ‘our football’ has no interest in the scoring parts of the game (attacking or defending).

I really feel like Webster is an expert at implementing a dumb strategy but in a very disciplined and enthusiastic way.
Two out of three ain’t bad, 😂
 

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