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Poupou Escobar

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Tbf his origin record is 8-9 (47%) and he’s never won a decider where he’s 0-3. It’s a really weird anomaly for a future all time great.
It's just a small sample. 17 games is less than a full season of NRL games. In truth, every player should have an Origin record of about 50%. 47% isn't significantly different from 50%
 

lucablight

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It's just a small sample. 17 games is less than a full season of NRL games. In truth, every player should have an Origin record of about 50%. 47% isn't significantly different from 50%
17 games is most certainly not a small sample size for origin. Steve Menzies has 20 appearances and that puts him at equal 7th most appearances at origin for NSW.
 

lucablight

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Who says they were better? Because they played for better club sides?
it’s a consensus view that NSW had superior sides in those series (on paper at least). Which teams would have been worth more if you added up their salaries and compared them? I bet NSW would have been worth significantly more.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The biggest question should be. If Moses was coached under Ivan and Nathan was coached under BA who would be the better player? There is no doubt Cleary is superior now. I put it down to coaching but. Moses has had useless coaches.
Cleary played almost 60 games and played Origin before his dad ever coached him. His first three seasons were under Griffin and Ciraldo.
 

Timana

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The biggest question should be. If Moses was coached under Ivan and Nathan was coached under BA who would be the better player? There is no doubt Cleary is superior now. I put it down to coaching but. Moses has had useless coaches.
I recokn there is also that mental trait where he would watch and study every aspect of the game.

Something dyl has none of

But in saying that, dyl has no premierships but his contract is worth more lol
 

lucablight

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I disagree. It just happens to be the best sample we might have. It doesn't mean it's statistically significant. That's why players are picked based on club form, not Origin form.
Then you don’t understand that some things don’t exist in a vacuum and relativity matters.
 

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