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Rugby Australia to target top NRL talent - Lomax case settled

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Mother Nature's Son said:
Mate the blokes an idiot but you gotta laugh the way he lead union up the path, last week they were crowing "two clubs table offers for Lomax" and the next we hear of him he`s trying to sign with the Storm. f**king priceless, completely blanked them.
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Lets be honest, they couldn't offer him anything like what he can get in the NRL.
 
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marlins2.0 said:
www.rugbypass.com

'Unlevel playing field': Former Hurricanes CEO opens up on club's woes

Former Hurricanes CEO Avan Lee has opened up on the challenges facing the Wellington club and the realities of player contracting, offering insight into the behind-the-scenes workings of Super Rugby Pacific in New Zealand.
www.rugbypass.com www.rugbypass.com
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Interesting ,
very different model to the Warriors & any other NRL franchises starting over there if that happens.
Through central distribution from the NRL ( the grant) the wahs get around $20 million AUD .. $22 mill NZD before they sell a membership or ticket
In 2028 , this will increase to closer to $30 million.

wow
 
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marlins2.0

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Barney Stubble said:
Interesting ,
very different model to the Warriors & any other NRL franchises starting over there if that happens.
Through central distribution from the NRL ( the grant) the wahs get around $20 million AUD .. $22 mill NZD before they sell a membership or ticket
In 2028 , this will increase to closer to $30 million.

wow
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Its crazy they operate on the basis that a crowd of 33% capacity is acceptable.

Salary cap is smaller than expected but top NZ rugby players have excellent third party deals as you'd expect.

$2 million dollar loss is nuts though, it's clear super rugby isn't the asset they project it to be.
 
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marlins2.0 said:
Its crazy they operate on the basis that a crowd of 33% capacity is acceptable.

Salary cap is smaller than expected but top NZ rugby players have excellent third party deals as you'd expect.

$2 million dollar loss is nuts though, it's clear super rugby isn't the asset they project it to be.
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Im sure they'd want more then 33% of their grounds filled , certainly because after sponsorship , thats the only source of income for them after salaries are paid for by the NZRU , but thats where they are atm. The fact the Wahs get double what NZ super rugby teams get in salary cap payments & possibly triple in 2028 is huge for targeting talent over there.
 
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It never really stood much of a chance tbh without eating a fair amount of the NRL's lunch. Domestic Markets are just too small, markets in good time zones that actually watch Union don't have anywhere near the cash to contribute much, and the wealthy markets that could generate income are all in two terrible timeslots for the game.

Look at the South African Clubs. Going from strength to strength financially since leaving Super Rugby and playing in a more viewer friendly timezone.

Way things are going they can hope to be a feeder for European Union like soccer is for everyone out of Europe. Problem is, the money you can get playing in the NRL is not far off what the best French and English clubs can offer.
 
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marlins2.0 said:
Its crazy they operate on the basis that a crowd of 33% capacity is acceptable.

Salary cap is smaller than expected but top NZ rugby players have excellent third party deals as you'd expect.

$2 million dollar loss is nuts though, it's clear super rugby isn't the asset they project it to be.
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I think it's a bit of a fools errand trying to directly compare salary caps between NRL clubs and Super franchises in NZ. The reality is there isn't really a cap in Super. If there was a real one, and it was the one the failure of a CEO mentioned in this interview, then the teams would never be able to run out All Blacks.

Super is just a component of a NZ players contract, for the younger ones coming through it's a larger component, but for the bigger names it's a smaller component.
 
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Matua said:
I think it's a bit of a fools errand trying to directly compare salary caps between NRL clubs and Super franchises in NZ. The reality is there isn't really a cap in Super. If there was a real one, and it was the one the failure of a CEO mentioned in this interview, then the teams would never be able to run out All Blacks.

Super is just a component of a NZ players contract, for the younger ones coming through it's a larger component, but for the bigger names it's a smaller component.
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A lot of NRL stars also make good coin through 3rd party deals. Despite being their top sport over there it is actually not going that well in recent times. If the NRL continues on its current trajectory, it will own the Pacific in 10 years time and will be a serious competitor to Union in NZ. Australia is already a lost cause for Union and will never recover to where it was in the early 2000s.
 
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Jetka100 said:
A lot of NRL stars also make good coin through 3rd party deals. Despite being their top sport over there it is actually not going that well in recent times. If the NRL continues on its current trajectory, it will own the Pacific in 10 years time and will be a serious competitor to Union in NZ. Australia is already a lost cause for Union and will never recover to where it was in the early 2000s.
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Too true ,
The NZRU don't have a blank cheque book to spend , they know exactly where their spend point is , & the significant increased spend power of the Wahs from 2028 & the potential of another NZ NRL franchise will add enormous pressure to them & they know it
 
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shadowformz said:
www.foxsports.com.au

‘It’s worldwide’: NRL legend’s plunge into radical hybrid game as ‘huge’ $3m proposal floated

‘It’s worldwide’: NRL legend’s plunge into radical hybrid game as ‘huge’ $3m proposal floated
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au
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No one wants to see that. League in your own half, union in the other half. League in your own half is the most boring part of league as it's usually just hit ups until you get to the 40m line with little risk.

Then Union in the attacking zone, I see guys getting confused where they are on the field and plenty of penalties being blown as they aren't sure if they are Arthur or Martha at the time when they pass off the ground cause they are 1m into the league zone still as the play started in the Union zone or submit in the tackle cause they think it's league rules but they hit the 1m into the Union rules area.
 
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PARRA_FAN

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I went to a Hybrid game I think 2015, Wests Magpies Vs Randwick RU. Basically Wests were a Ron Massey cup side back then up against the biggest Union team in Sydney. The Magpies smashed them and I think some of the tries were long range. It seems like Union players would take a bit of time to adjust to the League rules.
 
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