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Used to running a qrl club not an nrl club

Same as the guy who runs wests Newcastle league / nrl knights

Not saying they aren’t a success but could be way bigger

Brisbanes got a massive population and league is number one

Northern Brisbane / redcliff area having a large population boom
He was at the broncos for a long time.
 

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Dolphins wanted Karl oleppau they wouldnt release him to the dolphins but did to the dogs but he ended up at the dolphins anyway
The dolphins got caught out trying to entice a contracted player to break a contract, they orchestrated the whole release attempt, they attempted the same thing with Mariner. Why would any club release him to them after that? The dogs also ended up paying the broncos a $500k transfer fee. He ended up back there because he f**ked his neck.
 

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The dolphins got caught out trying to entice a contracted player to break a contract, they orchestrated the whole release attempt, they attempted the same thing with Mariner. Why would any club release him to them after that? The dogs also ended up paying the broncos a $500k transfer fee. He ended up back there because he f**ked his neck.
So broncos were happy to let him break his contract for dogs but not dolphins

Broncos have a history with second Brisbane rugby league sides

It’s why there was a clause for no second Brisbane nrl side till 2015
 
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So broncos were happy to let him break his contract for dogs but not dolphins

Broncos have a history with second Brisbane rugby league sides

It’s why there was a clause for no second Brisbane nrl side till 2015
nah their clause was no south queensland teams between 1999 after chargers folded to 2005.
thats why titans bid 2005/accepted 2006/started 2007.
thats why bombers bid 2009/10/11/12.

but anyways all irrelevant to perth bears.
 

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So broncos were happy to let him break his contract for dogs but not dolphins

Broncos have a history with second Brisbane rugby league sides

It’s why there was a clause for no second Brisbane nrl side till 2015
Yes, they were happy to release him to the dogs after the phins got him to agitate for a release and the relationship became untenable to the point the kid refused to train…

Why would the broncos reward phins for blatant contract tampering by releasing him to them? Bizarre that you think they should have.
 

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I don't really believe that they should be taking a home game to Sydney, they'll already play there 9 times!
Maybe once in their first season as a nod to Bears fans but that's it. Bears fans on the east coast have plenty of opportunities to go to the footy.

How many NRL games is there each year in Sydney? And the extra games each round give them even more..!
I don't think we should be taking games away from Perth with their grand total of 12...to give to Sydney..

Singapore on the other hand.. it could even be that novelty weekend away for Perth fans that they enjoy.
I honestly feel this way too, but it seems fairly set in stone for the time being that it's happening.
 

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De Ceglie is proof that journalists don’t necessarily make good club bosses.

As revealed by The Australian last month, V’landys has gone cold on the L-plate CEO because he ignored his instructions for the new Bears logo to closely resemble North Sydney’s.

De Ceglie’s problem isn’t so much his ability as his ego. He’s made himself the face of his club when it should be rugby league Immortal Mal Meninga.

 

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ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys’s support for Perth Bears chief executive Anthony De Ceglie is fading after he was forced to intervene over the fledgling club’s new logo.

Coach Mal Meninga and board member and Channel 9 sports presenter James Bracey revealed the design on Today on Wednesday.

It received universal praise instead of the usual bitching and moaning that follows the release of a sporting logo.

It’s a modernisation of the North Sydney Bears’ iconic logo, which demonstrates the club belongs as much to them as to the west coast – which is precisely what V’landys wanted when he brought the franchise to life last year.

De Ceglie was nowhere to be seen when Meninga spruiked the new design on Nine this week, although he still managed to elbow his way into the spotlight.

“The Perth Bears are a new club, but that will never change the fact that the birthplace and spiritual home of the Bears in rugby league will always be North Sydney,” the former Channel 7 news director said. “We’re proud that our bear has been developed from within North Sydney but with an eye on the future.”

The reality is De Ceglie wanted a different logo altogether, defying V’landys’s instructions and engaging consultants who came up with a design that bore no resemblance to North Sydney’s.

According to those who have seen it, the logo was more polar bear than North Sydney bear. “It was a shocker,” said one NRL exec.

When V’landys started talking about expansion three years ago, breathing new life into North Sydney was high on his agenda.

“Everywhere I go, that’s always the question: when are you bringing back the Bears?” he told The Daily Telegraph in February 2024. “I didn’t realise they had so many old fans. It makes sense that we bring them back in some capacity – they’ve got to be in the equation.”

Indeed, a condition of Perth being handed the 18th club licence was that it did so in partnership with Norths, who haven’t played in the NRL under their own name since 1999 after an ill-fated joint-venture with Manly.
ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys was forced to intervene after tensions emerged over the Perth Bears’ logo and identity.

ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys was forced to intervene after tensions emerged over the Perth Bears’ logo and identity.

Keeping Norths’ colours, logos, and the Bears moniker was part of the deal V’landys struck with West Australian Premier Roger Cook last year. Those conditions are enshrined in the club’s constitution.

Imagine V’landys’s crankiness, then, when De Ceglie ignored his directive and came up with an entirely different design. V’landys immediately intervened, assuring North Sydney he was a man of his word before admonishing the Perth boss.

De Ceglie might think he’s the smartest bloke in the room, but angering the all-powerful V’landys exposes his naivety.

Remember, it was V’landys who appointed him in the first place. The Perth franchise is also a subsidiary of the ARLC for the next five years – so V’landys calls the shots.
I’m also told V’landys and NRL execs were far from pleased when The Australian revealed in December that De Ceglie was pitching a fly-on-the-wall documentary to broadcasters in which the “visionary CEO” was the star of the show alongside Meninga.
V’landys is attempting to secure the largest broadcast deal in the game’s history with the same media companies.

The last thing he needs is an NRL-owned franchise doing business with one and not the other.

While De Ceglie’s understanding of the digital space is being applauded internally at the Bears, the figure who seems to be making the most difference is legendary Australian wicketkeeper and former WACA chief executive Christina Matthews – because of her knowledge of sport and Perth.

The Bears have a good story to tell. After a rough start, they’re emerging, slowly but surely, from their hibernation.

Meninga and his football department are carefully piecing together a quality squad, resisting the urge to throw the bank at superstars in the twilight of their careers.

They’re signing players of good character, from good systems, with a preference for young blood. Fears that Big Mal was poised to walk away have been replaced with optimism he’s in it for the long haul. He should be the face of the operation, not the chief executive.

V’landys declined to comment when contacted, while De Ceglie had no clue where I could’ve got any of this from and put the whole thing down to creative tension in a Lennon-McCartney kinda way.


Former WACA chief executive Christina Matthews is playing a key behind-the-scenes role in steadying the Perth Bears’ new administration.

“The Perth Bears looked at a range of logo options during a very thorough creative process where lots of options were canvassed,” De Ceglie told me. “This included research on the most important question of all: does the iconic bear from North Sydney need to be modernised for the new digital era and, if so, how can it be done respectfully?

“We’re extremely pleased with the result, which has had overwhelming support from our fans.”
Let’s see how much longer he has the support of the man who appointed him.




That ceo is skating on thin ice ignoring what his boss wants. What a dope
 

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De Ceglie is proof that journalists don’t necessarily make good club bosses.

As revealed by The Australian last month, V’landys has gone cold on the L-plate CEO because he ignored his instructions for the new Bears logo to closely resemble North Sydney’s.

De Ceglie’s problem isn’t so much his ability as his ego. He’s made himself the face of his club when it should be rugby league Immortal Mal Meninga.

Who knows how this goes but personally I'm a fan of Chamas, speaks very well, very smart guy .
I think it could be a good move because at the end of the day it's public perception that will bring PNG unstuck.. who best to work media to their advantage?
I think it'll be a success.
 

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ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys’s support for Perth Bears chief executive Anthony De Ceglie is fading after he was forced to intervene over the fledgling club’s new logo.

Coach Mal Meninga and board member and Channel 9 sports presenter James Bracey revealed the design on Today on Wednesday.

It received universal praise instead of the usual bitching and moaning that follows the release of a sporting logo.

It’s a modernisation of the North Sydney Bears’ iconic logo, which demonstrates the club belongs as much to them as to the west coast – which is precisely what V’landys wanted when he brought the franchise to life last year.

De Ceglie was nowhere to be seen when Meninga spruiked the new design on Nine this week, although he still managed to elbow his way into the spotlight.

“The Perth Bears are a new club, but that will never change the fact that the birthplace and spiritual home of the Bears in rugby league will always be North Sydney,” the former Channel 7 news director said. “We’re proud that our bear has been developed from within North Sydney but with an eye on the future.”

The reality is De Ceglie wanted a different logo altogether, defying V’landys’s instructions and engaging consultants who came up with a design that bore no resemblance to North Sydney’s.

According to those who have seen it, the logo was more polar bear than North Sydney bear. “It was a shocker,” said one NRL exec.

When V’landys started talking about expansion three years ago, breathing new life into North Sydney was high on his agenda.

“Everywhere I go, that’s always the question: when are you bringing back the Bears?” he told The Daily Telegraph in February 2024. “I didn’t realise they had so many old fans. It makes sense that we bring them back in some capacity – they’ve got to be in the equation.”

Indeed, a condition of Perth being handed the 18th club licence was that it did so in partnership with Norths, who haven’t played in the NRL under their own name since 1999 after an ill-fated joint-venture with Manly.
ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys was forced to intervene after tensions emerged over the Perth Bears’ logo and identity.

ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys was forced to intervene after tensions emerged over the Perth Bears’ logo and identity.

Keeping Norths’ colours, logos, and the Bears moniker was part of the deal V’landys struck with West Australian Premier Roger Cook last year. Those conditions are enshrined in the club’s constitution.

Imagine V’landys’s crankiness, then, when De Ceglie ignored his directive and came up with an entirely different design. V’landys immediately intervened, assuring North Sydney he was a man of his word before admonishing the Perth boss.

De Ceglie might think he’s the smartest bloke in the room, but angering the all-powerful V’landys exposes his naivety.

Remember, it was V’landys who appointed him in the first place. The Perth franchise is also a subsidiary of the ARLC for the next five years – so V’landys calls the shots.
I’m also told V’landys and NRL execs were far from pleased when The Australian revealed in December that De Ceglie was pitching a fly-on-the-wall documentary to broadcasters in which the “visionary CEO” was the star of the show alongside Meninga.
V’landys is attempting to secure the largest broadcast deal in the game’s history with the same media companies.

The last thing he needs is an NRL-owned franchise doing business with one and not the other.

While De Ceglie’s understanding of the digital space is being applauded internally at the Bears, the figure who seems to be making the most difference is legendary Australian wicketkeeper and former WACA chief executive Christina Matthews – because of her knowledge of sport and Perth.

The Bears have a good story to tell. After a rough start, they’re emerging, slowly but surely, from their hibernation.

Meninga and his football department are carefully piecing together a quality squad, resisting the urge to throw the bank at superstars in the twilight of their careers.

They’re signing players of good character, from good systems, with a preference for young blood. Fears that Big Mal was poised to walk away have been replaced with optimism he’s in it for the long haul. He should be the face of the operation, not the chief executive.

V’landys declined to comment when contacted, while De Ceglie had no clue where I could’ve got any of this from and put the whole thing down to creative tension in a Lennon-McCartney kinda way.


Former WACA chief executive Christina Matthews is playing a key behind-the-scenes role in steadying the Perth Bears’ new administration.

“The Perth Bears looked at a range of logo options during a very thorough creative process where lots of options were canvassed,” De Ceglie told me. “This included research on the most important question of all: does the iconic bear from North Sydney need to be modernised for the new digital era and, if so, how can it be done respectfully?

“We’re extremely pleased with the result, which has had overwhelming support from our fans.”
Let’s see how much longer he has the support of the man who appointed him.




That ceo is skating on thin ice ignoring what his boss wants. What a dope
He should have just put a norths guy in charge. I reckon its a 50/50 chance the clubs first home game is in Sydney.
 

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ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys’s support for Perth Bears chief executive Anthony De Ceglie is fading after he was forced to intervene over the fledgling club’s new logo.

Coach Mal Meninga and board member and Channel 9 sports presenter James Bracey revealed the design on Today on Wednesday.

It received universal praise instead of the usual bitching and moaning that follows the release of a sporting logo.

It’s a modernisation of the North Sydney Bears’ iconic logo, which demonstrates the club belongs as much to them as to the west coast – which is precisely what V’landys wanted when he brought the franchise to life last year.

De Ceglie was nowhere to be seen when Meninga spruiked the new design on Nine this week, although he still managed to elbow his way into the spotlight.

“The Perth Bears are a new club, but that will never change the fact that the birthplace and spiritual home of the Bears in rugby league will always be North Sydney,” the former Channel 7 news director said. “We’re proud that our bear has been developed from within North Sydney but with an eye on the future.”

The reality is De Ceglie wanted a different logo altogether, defying V’landys’s instructions and engaging consultants who came up with a design that bore no resemblance to North Sydney’s.

According to those who have seen it, the logo was more polar bear than North Sydney bear. “It was a shocker,” said one NRL exec.

When V’landys started talking about expansion three years ago, breathing new life into North Sydney was high on his agenda.

“Everywhere I go, that’s always the question: when are you bringing back the Bears?” he told The Daily Telegraph in February 2024. “I didn’t realise they had so many old fans. It makes sense that we bring them back in some capacity – they’ve got to be in the equation.”

Indeed, a condition of Perth being handed the 18th club licence was that it did so in partnership with Norths, who haven’t played in the NRL under their own name since 1999 after an ill-fated joint-venture with Manly.
ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys was forced to intervene after tensions emerged over the Perth Bears’ logo and identity.

ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys was forced to intervene after tensions emerged over the Perth Bears’ logo and identity.

Keeping Norths’ colours, logos, and the Bears moniker was part of the deal V’landys struck with West Australian Premier Roger Cook last year. Those conditions are enshrined in the club’s constitution.

Imagine V’landys’s crankiness, then, when De Ceglie ignored his directive and came up with an entirely different design. V’landys immediately intervened, assuring North Sydney he was a man of his word before admonishing the Perth boss.

De Ceglie might think he’s the smartest bloke in the room, but angering the all-powerful V’landys exposes his naivety.

Remember, it was V’landys who appointed him in the first place. The Perth franchise is also a subsidiary of the ARLC for the next five years – so V’landys calls the shots.
I’m also told V’landys and NRL execs were far from pleased when The Australian revealed in December that De Ceglie was pitching a fly-on-the-wall documentary to broadcasters in which the “visionary CEO” was the star of the show alongside Meninga.
V’landys is attempting to secure the largest broadcast deal in the game’s history with the same media companies.

The last thing he needs is an NRL-owned franchise doing business with one and not the other.

While De Ceglie’s understanding of the digital space is being applauded internally at the Bears, the figure who seems to be making the most difference is legendary Australian wicketkeeper and former WACA chief executive Christina Matthews – because of her knowledge of sport and Perth.

The Bears have a good story to tell. After a rough start, they’re emerging, slowly but surely, from their hibernation.

Meninga and his football department are carefully piecing together a quality squad, resisting the urge to throw the bank at superstars in the twilight of their careers.

They’re signing players of good character, from good systems, with a preference for young blood. Fears that Big Mal was poised to walk away have been replaced with optimism he’s in it for the long haul. He should be the face of the operation, not the chief executive.

V’landys declined to comment when contacted, while De Ceglie had no clue where I could’ve got any of this from and put the whole thing down to creative tension in a Lennon-McCartney kinda way.


Former WACA chief executive Christina Matthews is playing a key behind-the-scenes role in steadying the Perth Bears’ new administration.

“The Perth Bears looked at a range of logo options during a very thorough creative process where lots of options were canvassed,” De Ceglie told me. “This included research on the most important question of all: does the iconic bear from North Sydney need to be modernised for the new digital era and, if so, how can it be done respectfully?

“We’re extremely pleased with the result, which has had overwhelming support from our fans.”
Let’s see how much longer he has the support of the man who appointed him.




That ceo is skating on thin ice ignoring what his boss wants. What a dope
Or maybe Anthony knows this club will rise or fall on how WA responds to it and being focused so much on what NS wants isnt the best thing? I mean thats two WA people now who chose not to just replicate the NS logo. Maybe, just maybe...
 

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Or maybe Anthony knows this club will rise or fall on how WA responds to it and being focused so much on what NS wants isnt the best thing? I mean thats two WA people now who chose not to just replicate the NS logo. Maybe, just maybe...
No.

The logo was always tracking to be that logo.
Anthony had the right to look at options as part of due diligence. His put forward options just didn’t hit the mark. There is nothing wrong with that.

I must of posted no less than 4 times last year that there were 2/3 potential logos being looked at - by the end. But the one that was chosen was always the one. It never really moved further past it.



ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys’s support for Perth Bears chief executive Anthony De Ceglie is fading after he was forced to intervene over the fledgling club’s new logo.

Coach Mal Meninga and board member and Channel 9 sports presenter James Bracey revealed the design on Today on Wednesday.

It received universal praise instead of the usual bitching and moaning that follows the release of a sporting logo.

It’s a modernisation of the North Sydney Bears’ iconic logo, which demonstrates the club belongs as much to them as to the west coast – which is precisely what V’landys wanted when he brought the franchise to life last year.

De Ceglie was nowhere to be seen when Meninga spruiked the new design on Nine this week, although he still managed to elbow his way into the spotlight.

“The Perth Bears are a new club, but that will never change the fact that the birthplace and spiritual home of the Bears in rugby league will always be North Sydney,” the former Channel 7 news director said. “We’re proud that our bear has been developed from within North Sydney but with an eye on the future.”

The reality is De Ceglie wanted a different logo altogether, defying V’landys’s instructions and engaging consultants who came up with a design that bore no resemblance to North Sydney’s.

According to those who have seen it, the logo was more polar bear than North Sydney bear. “It was a shocker,” said one NRL exec.

When V’landys started talking about expansion three years ago, breathing new life into North Sydney was high on his agenda.

“Everywhere I go, that’s always the question: when are you bringing back the Bears?” he told The Daily Telegraph in February 2024. “I didn’t realise they had so many old fans. It makes sense that we bring them back in some capacity – they’ve got to be in the equation.”

Indeed, a condition of Perth being handed the 18th club licence was that it did so in partnership with Norths, who haven’t played in the NRL under their own name since 1999 after an ill-fated joint-venture with Manly.
ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys was forced to intervene after tensions emerged over the Perth Bears’ logo and identity.

ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys was forced to intervene after tensions emerged over the Perth Bears’ logo and identity.

Keeping Norths’ colours, logos, and the Bears moniker was part of the deal V’landys struck with West Australian Premier Roger Cook last year. Those conditions are enshrined in the club’s constitution.

Imagine V’landys’s crankiness, then, when De Ceglie ignored his directive and came up with an entirely different design. V’landys immediately intervened, assuring North Sydney he was a man of his word before admonishing the Perth boss.

De Ceglie might think he’s the smartest bloke in the room, but angering the all-powerful V’landys exposes his naivety.

Remember, it was V’landys who appointed him in the first place. The Perth franchise is also a subsidiary of the ARLC for the next five years – so V’landys calls the shots.
I’m also told V’landys and NRL execs were far from pleased when The Australian revealed in December that De Ceglie was pitching a fly-on-the-wall documentary to broadcasters in which the “visionary CEO” was the star of the show alongside Meninga.
V’landys is attempting to secure the largest broadcast deal in the game’s history with the same media companies.

The last thing he needs is an NRL-owned franchise doing business with one and not the other.

While De Ceglie’s understanding of the digital space is being applauded internally at the Bears, the figure who seems to be making the most difference is legendary Australian wicketkeeper and former WACA chief executive Christina Matthews – because of her knowledge of sport and Perth.

The Bears have a good story to tell. After a rough start, they’re emerging, slowly but surely, from their hibernation.

Meninga and his football department are carefully piecing together a quality squad, resisting the urge to throw the bank at superstars in the twilight of their careers.

They’re signing players of good character, from good systems, with a preference for young blood. Fears that Big Mal was poised to walk away have been replaced with optimism he’s in it for the long haul. He should be the face of the operation, not the chief executive.

V’landys declined to comment when contacted, while De Ceglie had no clue where I could’ve got any of this from and put the whole thing down to creative tension in a Lennon-McCartney kinda way.


Former WACA chief executive Christina Matthews is playing a key behind-the-scenes role in steadying the Perth Bears’ new administration.

“The Perth Bears looked at a range of logo options during a very thorough creative process where lots of options were canvassed,” De Ceglie told me. “This included research on the most important question of all: does the iconic bear from North Sydney need to be modernised for the new digital era and, if so, how can it be done respectfully?

“We’re extremely pleased with the result, which has had overwhelming support from our fans.”
Let’s see how much longer he has the support of the man who appointed him.




That ceo is skating on thin ice ignoring what his boss wants. What a dope

Andrew Webster has put forward a few hit piece articles now.

This stems from articles on Ezra Howe/Titans/Bears - he reported on first and then followed up with a couple subsequent articles. It ultimately lead to nothing.

He should have taken advice at the time and not pursued with it - as it was unsubstantiated. There was nothing to it. He chose to ignore it and went on a wild goose chase instead. I like the guy and I like some of his journalistic work but he isn’t an investigate journalist anymore (he gave that up years ago), he is an opinion piece journalist and has been so for many years.

This month old logo article is no more than a fluff piece.

Everything Anthony is doing or has previously done - is with NRL oversight and pre-approval. They own the club.

He is doing a sound job in the time frame parameters he has to work with.
 
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No.

The logo was always tracking to be that logo.
Anthony had the right to look at options as part of due diligence. His put forward options just didn’t hit the mark. There is nothing wrong with that.

I must of posted no less than 4 times last year that there were 2/3 potential logos being looked at - by the end. But the one that was chosen was always the one. It never really moved further past it.



Andrew Webster has put forward a few hit piece articles now.

This stems from articles on Ezra Howe/Titans/Bears - he reported on first and then followed up with a couple subsequent articles. It ultimately lead to nothing.

He should have taken advice at the time and not pursued with it - as it was unsubstantiated. There was nothing to it. He chose to ignore it and went on a wild goose chase instead. I like the guy and I like some of his journalistic work but he isn’t an investigate journalist anymore (he gave that up years ago), he is an opinion piece journalist and has been so for many years.

This month old logo article is no more than a fluff piece.

Everything Anthony is doing or has previously done - is with NRL oversight and pre-approval. They own the club.

He is doing a sound job in the time frame parameters he has to work with.
Fair enough

Didn’t know it was Webster I hate him with a passion
 
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Fair enough

Didn’t know it was Webster I hate him with a passion
i mean the logo has been well received by vast majority of people across both coasts. lol
its a winner.

Or maybe Anthony knows this club will rise or fall on how WA responds to it and being focused so much on what NS wants isnt the best thing? I mean thats two WA people now who chose not to just replicate the NS logo. Maybe, just maybe...
lol.
perthwrongs ding dong. once again proving ya dont know anything lol.

we knew perthwrongs would have issues with the logo and now he is scrambling to use a 3 week old article to cause disharmony and validate his shit takes. he still cant get over the fact bears are part of this and from day 1 colours brand badge was always gonna up like this. lol. he is even posting this on his crabshit facebook group. lol

your fault you that failed to absorb ALL the information that was laid out in front of us all.

perthwrongs ding dong
 
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