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[Mother Nature's Son]

consumer discretionary spending is at record lows

Just making stuff up. Desperate.

 

[newc18]

This is not the best economic climate for a record deal to be acheieved. A recession is on the horizon and consumer discretionary spending is at record lows. If PVL thinks fans will be happy to fork out $100 per month for multiple streaming services just to see every game he might be in for a rude shock.

How hasn't this guy been banned yet? I'm yet to see a positive comment about Rugby League from him. It's all AFL this and AFL that.

 

[storm1999]

How hasn't this guy been banned yet? I'm yet to see a positive comment about Rugby League from him. It's all AFL this and AFL that.

Where did my post mention AFL? People here just don't like it when someone doesn't worship the ground PVL walks on.

 

[Wb1234]

How hasn't this guy been banned yet? I'm yet to see a positive comment about Rugby League from him. It's all AFL this and AFL that.

He’s harmless

 

[Chief_Chujo]

This is not the best economic climate for a record deal to be acheieved. A recession is on the horizon and consumer discretionary spending is at record lows. If PVL thinks fans will be happy to fork out $100 per month for multiple streaming services just to see every game he might be in for a rude shock.

Same shit we heard before the last deal. Then Fox went and splashed out on AFL. It's the biggest stain on V'Landys tenure. He won't be fooled again.

 

[Perth Red]

Thinking globally if the nrl / SL partnership comes off these would be the best global partners to have

PTV only
DAZN Aus, UK, France covg, possibly a platform to launch streaming service in nz and png?

then fta whoever pays most in aus, same in uk and France

PTV and FTA bundled paramount
10/ paramount aus
ch5/Paramount uk
Paramount France
sky (paramount partners) NZ
north America paramount
png?

might be too early this deal but down the road could def see a global player in streaming and fta like paramount be a key opportunity.

id take a small financial hit on origin value and offer it to Netflix on proviso they streamed it live and on replay globally. That could open the game internationally beyond any other opportunity.

 

[Perth Red]

Has he been quoted as saying this?

Peter V’landys, who has previously said he wanted more than $4 billion over five years.

 

[Barney Stubble]

He’s harmless

every forum needs a village idiot yes

 

[Barney Stubble]

Has he been quoted as saying this?

Peter V’landys, who has previously said he wanted more than $4 billion over five years.

nope dopey
that was the media speculating , imo we don't get that
closer to 700 mill will be the number

 

[newc18]

After listening to Abdo talk about global expansion. It does make more sense for them to go with a DAZN, Amazon, Paramount over a Stan.

I'd be okay if we sacrificed getting AFL type money for more exposure overseas. It would probably work out better long term.

 

[Barney Stubble]

After listening to Abdo talk about global expansion. It does make more sense for them to go with a DAZN, Amazon, Paramount over a Stan.

I'd be okay if we sacrificed getting AFL type money for more exposure overseas. It would probably work out better long term.

nope
absolutely not...
Huge $ is required to cement our position as the numb one sport in the SW Pacific & to drastically improve the sport in Europe

 

[newc18]

nope
absolutely not...
Huge $ is required to cement our position as the numb one sport in the SW Pacific & to drastically improve the sport in Europe

It depends if that money comes at the expense of locking out fans and stagnating the growth of the sport. I'd love for us to beat the AFL deal but I think overseas exposure in key markets could be a potential gold mine in the future. For example, would you take a little bit less if it meant the owners of Paramount put a game or two each week on thier FTA channels in America?

At the end of the day the NRL still needs to focus on growing the game so the next broadcast deals are even bigger. It's exciting times.

 

[Barney Stubble]

It depends if that money comes at the expense of locking out fans and stagnating the growth of the sport. I'd love for us to beat the AFL deal but I think overseas exposure in key markets could be a potential gold mine in the future. For example, would you take a little bit less if it meant the owners of Paramount put a game or two on thier FTA channels in America?

At the end of the day the NRL still needs to focus on growing the game so the next broadcast deals are even bigger. It's exciting times.

It won't chicken little

 

[nswarrior]

nope dopey
that was the media speculating , imo we don't get that
closer to 700 mill will be the number

It will be closer to $800m pa with over $700m pa cash.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Has he been quoted as saying this?

Peter V’landys, who has previously said he wanted more than $4 billion over five years.

Think he said 3 billion months ago … it’s the journos talking up the 4 billion

 

[Wb1234]

Has he been quoted as saying this?

Peter V’landys, who has previously said he wanted more than $4 billion over five years.

How will you cope if we get 800 million pa ?

that would mean nrl revenue would be greater than afl revenue

 

[The_Wookie]

How will you cope if we get 800 million pa ?

that would mean nrl revenue would be greater than afl revenue

While its likely to be very close, Theres currently almost 350m revenue to be made up now . NRL Deal wont start until 2028.

NRl revenue increases by about 10% on average every year since 2022. The AFL is a little harder to quantify due to new media deals in 2023 and 2025.

Interesting note - if we take the media revenue from the 2019 year out of licensing (possible because 2019s report showed a hard media figure, while 2020 included it in Lincensing), it shows media revenue at 80.47% of the Licensing amount. If we use that percentage to estimate media revenue from 2020-2025, the yearly increase is identical to the increase in annual licensing revenue.

 

[Wb1234]

While its likely to be very close, Theres currently almost 350m revenue to be made up now . NRL Deal wont start until 2028.

NRl revenue increases by about 10% on average every year since 2022. The AFL is a little harder to quantify due to new media deals in 2023 and 2025.

Interesting note - if we take the media revenue from the 2019 year out of licensing (possible because 2019s report showed a hard media figure, while 2020 included it in Lincensing), it shows media revenue at 80.47% of the Licensing amount. If we use that percentage to estimate media revenue from 2020-2025, the yearly increase is identical to the increase in annual licensing revenue.

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Just stay consistent

last time I raised this point you and Perth red mocked me for even suggesting it

and nrl runs a lean operation so obviously the extra revenue is going to make a massive difference

we don’t need to fund basketcases like the lions gws and gcs and if it keeps going maybe swans too

 

[stratocaster]

While its likely to be very close, Theres currently almost 350m revenue to be made up now . NRL Deal wont start until 2028.

NRl revenue increases by about 10% on average every year since 2022. The AFL is a little harder to quantify due to new media deals in 2023 and 2025.

Interesting note - if we take the media revenue from the 2019 year out of licensing (possible because 2019s report showed a hard media figure, while 2020 included it in Lincensing), it shows media revenue at 80.47% of the Licensing amount. If we use that percentage to estimate media revenue from 2020-2025, the yearly increase is identical to the increase in annual licensing revenue.

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Really useful to see those annual figures. The only thing I'd say is that your percentage revenue increase from 2014 to 2025 should be 279.36% for the NRL and 261.43% for the AFL based on your top line numbers. I think you've just added up all the annual percentages by accident.

Basically, if these projections were to continue (they won't), there would be a gap closing for at least another 25 years (by my rule of thumb calculation).

But if the NRL gets a $767 million per year broadcast deal, the revenue gap is immediately closed and NRL starts to take the lead.

Or -- if the NRL simply matches the current AFL of deal of $643 million a season (averaged out but introduced in stepped-up increments), the revenue gap is closed by 2030 or 2031, basically before both new deals commence.

 

[i0Nic]

There’s no doubt about it that the nrl will close the revenue gap with the afl and then start to build a lead - whether that happens in 2028 immediately with an 800m a year media deal or by 2032 with a 600m media deal.

But moreso rugby league and nrl is also more efficient in spending - less squad headcount and associated staffing, fewer overheads, no dead weights like GWS/Suns to prop up. This money can instead go to growth initiatives like buying and running super league or developing the international game.

What this means is that league will be in a position to really accelerate growth come the new media deal.