Leagues club AGM thread.

[mickdo]

you don't think that people that have blamed df for us not winning and coming on here saying how they want him out and will vote to do so doesn't suggest that? i don't think it's too big an assumption to make from pretty simple logic.

'suggest', 'assumption', you're as bad as Massoud :lol::lol::lol:

 

[spiderdan]

'suggest', 'assumption', you're as bad as Massoud :lol::lol::lol:

you mean the puppet that 3p used to sensationalise matters to further their cause? aren't you a biased supporter of 3p though? difference is my assmption has a logic behind it. i could go through the forums to find posts by people that more dirrectly sugest losing df ensures success but couldn't be bothered.

i stand by my original statement that 3p should not have complete control of the board. i also have not, since the start of campaigning, seen anyhting tangible that would suggest 3p are going to improve things. i'd love to be shown otherwise though.

 

[SDM]

This just in: The election is over. 3p won.

 

[mickdo]

you mean the puppet that 3p used to sensationalise matters to further their cause?

Yes, him

aren't you a biased supporter of 3p though?

And?

difference is my assmption has a logic behind it. i could go through the forums to find posts by people that more dirrectly sugest losing df ensures success but couldn't be bothered.

Couldn't be bothered? :lol::lol::lol:

 

[MarkInTheStands]

But why does Chidiac need to be Deputy Chair in order for that to happen?

He doesn't but the roll of Deputy Chair will need to be filled as a result of the LC Elections. As I said it is a staging point.

 

[mickdo]

He doesn't but the roll of Deputy Chair will need to be filled as a result of the LC Elections. As I said it is a staging point.

A staging point? Sorry Mark, but that means absolutely nothing. I fail to see any relevance to the discussions...

 

[MarkInTheStands]

A staging point? Sorry Mark, but that means absolutely nothing. I fail to see any relevance to the discussions...

Cool no problem. I'll shut up then.

 

[fish eel]

A staging point? Sorry Mark, but that means absolutely nothing. I fail to see any relevance to the discussions...

I see the point Mark is making and it's got some validity.

 

[TheRam]

The people saying that things will automatically change and we will win a comp straight away. I don't recall too many saying that at all...

Yeah no, no Mickdo, humor him. Yeah sure, all of us 3P supporters reckon that we will win the next 15 grand finals straight starting with this years years, now that 3P are on board, and anyone who doesn't agree with us, well frankly, then they are worse then Hitler.

 

[El Diablo]

The people saying that things will automatically change and we will win a comp straight away. I don't recall too many saying that at all...

there was this http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?p=5298970#post5298970

we Will Cultivate And Develop Our Junior Talent Pool.
we Will Be Transparent And Accountable.
we Will Fill Parramatta Stadium Again.
we Will Win Another Grand Final
with Your Vote.

when is the question?

 

[Sangreal 86]

i don't think that's a good enough reason to give complete control to one group and i honestly don't think immediate control is a good thing. given that 3p by their own comments have no idea about the operations of the nrl teams is probably a bigger reason why they should not have complete and immediate control. and as i said earlier a board run completely by one group (with a common agenda and mandate) that has a ceo that answers to them is really no different to having a ceo that controls a board.

i have no doubt that 3p are genuine about what they want to achieve but there is a little more to it than just giving them control, especially when we don't know if what they are bringing will actually improve the club (eg. the line up of sponsors we've heard about but not been given details of if df is gone may actually drive away current sponsors and make us go backward financially).

anyone that thinks our new board will click their heels three times and win us a premiership is kidding themselves and i honestly think that a lot of voters cast their vote emotionally rather than thinking about all the implications of a change of board.

Spider, complete change can be an unknown factor for a lot of people, but it has to happen. Do you really believe we were not in discussion with the current sponsors? This club needs a clean cut fresh start, and the new directors, ALL SEVEN received a clear mandate from the voting members...77% of the vote in fact. Did you see one sponsor of this club come out in support of the incumbent board before the election? Success stems from the man at the top to the ballboy, everyone knows their job and does it, on and off the field, and a culture and a confidence becomes infectious to all involved, supporters start to sense it and the joint starts to rock. The calls received this week from sponsors and members of this club alike, is astonishing, they can feel the wind of change. It will not happen over night, but do not under estimate the players we have, or Daniel, as months of not uncertainty have now gone, and success has to have a starting point and this is it. To do this, there must be a complete change, and a clear mandate for change has been put forward by the members, so get to the meeting today and have your voice, fill the room and show you want to be part of successful change. Turn the computer off, and get off your arse and put your views to the people who will be in the boardroom, all 7 of them.

 

[spiderdan]

i don't remember saying all 3p supporters, ram. but thanks for humouring me.

ed thanks for finding that link. like i said, i couln't have been bothered looking for it.

 

[spiderdan]

Spider, complete change can be an unknown factor for a lot of people, but it has to happen. Do you really believe we were not in discussion with the current sponsors? This club needs a clean cut fresh start, and the new directors, ALL SEVEN received a clear mandate from the voting members...77% of the vote in fact. Did you see one sponsor of this club come out in support of the incumbent board before the election? Success stems from the man at the top to the ballboy, everyone knows their job and does it, on and off the field, and a culture and a confidence becomes infectious to all involved, supporters start to sense it and the joint starts to rock. The calls received this week from sponsors and members of this club alike, is astonishing, they can feel the wind of change. It will not happen over night, but do not under estimate the players we have, or Daniel, as months of not uncertainty have now gone, and success has to have a starting point and this is it. To do this, there must be a complete change, and a clear mandate for change has been put forward by the members, so get to the meeting today and have your voice, fill the room and show you want to be part of successful change. Turn the computer off, and get off your arse and put your views to the people who will be in the boardroom, all 7 of them.

hey terry.

thanks for the response. it is one of the better posts i have read in relation to what you guys are about. mate, like i have said a few times i am happy there is some change but at the same time i am hesitant and not convinced about a complete overhaul, which i explained in another post. hopefully whoever is there does a good job of turning the club back into a real force.

re: the meeting- i wont be there as i am 300km away. i'd love to have a say but that's one of the sh*tty things about being an interstate fan.

 

[mickdo]

I see the point Mark is making and it's got some validity.

What validity? Please help me out here and explain if you can...

 

[fish eel]

hey terry.

thanks for the response. it is one of the better posts i have read in relation to what you guys are about. mate, like i have said a few times i am happy there is some change but at the same time i am hesitant and not convinced about a complete overhaul, which i explained in another post. hopefully whoever is there does a good job of turning the club back into a real force.

re: the meeting- i wont be there as i am 300km away. i'd love to have a say but that's one of the sh*tty things about being an interstate fan.

The question isn't about whether the change is too big, afterall, the members voted overwhelimingly for change, and, for example, if 3P ran more candidates who were also on the FC board, they would have been 7-0.

The question is more about the merits of the 3-3 rule and the benefits or risks of doing away with it.

 

[mickdo]

there was this http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?p=5298970#post5298970



when is the question?

Well, that was actually from the FC elections, and I thought we were talking about 3P supporters anyway, not 3P's promotional material (which you would expect to be positive in that manner)

 

[fish eel]

What validity? Please help me out here and explain if you can...

Basically what Mark is saying if I read him right is the Deputy Position will be available, so Chidiac can take that and basically use it as a stepping stone to move up to the Chairmans position.

Yes, I know he doesn't have to be the deputy chair first in order to become the chair, but it does provide something of a stepping stone in terms of slightly higher recognition while he bides his time.

 

[Sangreal 86]

hey terry.

thanks for the response. it is one of the better posts i have read in relation to what you guys are about. mate, like i have said a few times i am happy there is some change but at the same time i am hesitant and not convinced about a complete overhaul, which i explained in another post. hopefully whoever is there does a good job of turning the club back into a real force.

re: the meeting- i wont be there as i am 300km away. i'd love to have a say but that's one of the sh*tty things about being an interstate fan.

I understand everyones concerns about complete change, but a lot of corporate money wont come on board without it. These are very successful and capable people, and the arguments against complete change are futile, one because anything major has to be voted on by the members, and second every member of the new board have been associated with the club as sponsors, season ticket holders, worked for the club etc.
They are here for one reason, our football team, but their expertise in business ensures our clubs future. All any of us has wants is success for every aspect of the club.

 

[mickdo]

Basically what Mark is saying if I read him right is the Deputy Position will be available, so Chidiac can take that and basically use it as a stepping stone to move up to the Chairmans position.

Yes, I know he doesn't have to be the deputy chair first in order to become the chair, but it does provide something of a stepping stone in terms of slightly higher recognition while he bides his time.

Sure, but what does that have to do with anything?

 

[fish eel]

Just old Mark going off on a tangent about the structure of the board.

As as much to do withg anything as most things posted on here :lol: