to cover what up?
what stuff?
mate without seeing the clips they were watching and hearing the question i think you are being a bit short sited and judgmental.
maybe you a right but there is still a massive grey area over what he is talking about
not all about how u treat a woman during the night, if you treat her like sh*t after she is going to regret doing what ever it is she has done with you.
so im not disaggreeing with you, but simply think you are calling it a bit early
And here is the problem. Allowing guys to be screeened with no media or presentation training on national television in a show that is focussed around negative attitudes towards women by footballers...feeding lambs to slaughter. I don't think the club has done the right thing here at all.I think the words "cover it up" or whatnot were very poor and what leads to the insidious inference. The guy needs toastmasters as much as he needs sensitivity training.
dunno how u can judge him by the half a dozen words taken out of context. without hearing the question and the rest of his response it means nothing.
I think SW was trying to say something relatively sane but ended up sounding like a monster.
I think what he was trying to say is that when you are each drunk (for example) you may well wake up regretting things (or she might, at least) - and that regret is less likely to turn into denial of consent after the fact (which is what people are alluding to) if you are nice to the girl afterwards and treat her with some dignity and respect.
I think the words "cover it up" or whatnot were very poor and what leads to the insidious inference. The guy needs toastmasters as much as he needs sensitivity training.
You can stretch the comments to look for positives around all day, but its crystal clear what he is saying in practically everyone's eyes who heard the quotes.
Newspapers can twist quotes to suit themselves.
But when a video is put there, and you see a bloke talking using his very own chosen words, its a bit hard to see it any other way.
His answer and the words he uses is concerning whatever the question was he was asked. He was at a sexual assault seminar, and on the program last night, they actually showed segments of the education clips they were watching.
No innocent bloke who has a consensual 1 on 1 , one night stand has to " cover up " anything.
Ramble on, you look a little like Gaddes!
You can, and you quite regularly do, twist anything into any context you like if all the facts are not given.
:lol: Its not even about ' me ' man.
How do you honestly think Simon Williams came across to the vast majority of viewers of the program last night? Just watch what Williams has to say. All there is, is a camera, his mouth going and his words coming out. How can it be viewed in any other way than black and white?
Today alone, the people I have spoken to about the program, have actually singled out Williams comments above and beyond anything else in the program as the worst part of the show!
And that's without my prompting or influence!
Alex28 touched on earlier that its the talk of his office. Its the talk of everywhere. How a no name under 20's kid somehow became the focus of that show last night is beyond me - but hey, it might have something to do with what he said!
We can look for positives or excuses all we like, but in the end, how do you think he honestly came across to the masses?