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Tracy Grimshaw interview...fair?

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No not Catholic, not sure what that has to do with it.

Plenty.

So morally you'd be ok with a large group of footy players banging your daughter/sister/cousin or anyone else for that matter.
That sort of sh*t maybe ok in your neck of the woods, but not mine buddy. So put your teeth back in and tune your banjo.

Consenting adults having sex is none of my concern. If it were, I'd be knocking on doors all night, every night. the problem is that sex between consenting adults is legal. If it wasn't, you'd have a case.

It's between Matthew and his wife and the FACT that they're still together speaks volumes.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/813447/matthew-johns-refutes-womans-claims

Here's Matt and his wife's side of the story, you tell me why your morality should be used to judge him you santimonius twat.




NRL personality Matthew Johns has refuted some of the claims of the woman at the centre of a group sex scandal that has cost him his career.

In an exclusive interview on A Current Affair tonight, Johns told Tracy Grimshaw the woman was a "willing participant" who never objected to the advances of other players.

"That's totally untrue," Johns told ACA of the woman's claim she did not intend to have sex with more than two Sharks players.

"I would say that on the night when she came back to the room she was a willing participant in everything that went on."

Johns was one of two players who initially went with the woman to a hotel room to have sex.

He said he was not initially aware of other players entering the room.
"At the time when I went back I was completely unaware of other people coming into the room," Johns said.

"At the point that they did I stepped away from it (the bed).

"In the statement made to police it says she encouraged players to come forward."

But the former Newcastle Knights star and representative footballer said he took full responsibility for the incident. "I've never blamed anyone else in this situation except myself," Johns said.

"I take full responsibility for the predicament that I find myself in."
Also facing the cameras was Johns's wife Trish, who admitted she was "shocked and disgusted" when she found out what had happened.

"But he told me every last detail of the events ... my inquisition went on for months and even years," she said.

"If he wasn't totally honest with me then we couldn't have gone on as a married couple."

Mrs Johns also said her husband's "greatest crime" was "being unfaithful to me as a wife" and insisted it was up to her alone to judge him on that, but added that she found the whole episode disturbing.

"I certainly wouldn't want it to be my daughter," she said.

Last night Grimshaw demanded that Johns "step up" and appear on the show to "face some hard questions". (Watch more: Challenge put to Johns)

Johns' future has been under a cloud since the ABC's Four Corners program aired allegations about his involvement in a 2002 group sex incident in New Zealand while he was playing for Cronulla. (Read more: Group sex "destroyed" woman's life)

Earlier today, Johns was stood down indefinitely from all his on-air commitments with the Nine Network.


Nine CEO David Gyngell said in a statement that the mutual decision had been taken in the best interests of the Nine Network, Matthew Johns and his family, the game and its supporters. (Watch more: Johns enters Nine)
"The fact is, whatever the arguments about the details of the New Zealand incident involving Cronulla players in 2002, the conduct and its aftermath was simply unacceptable, fullstop," he said.

"I fully endorse David Gallop's comments concerning the indefensible conduct of some players and the lack of respect for women — and the critical focus on all stakeholders to help eradicate it from our game."
"I join with him in extending my apologies and sympathy to the young woman involved in the incident, who clearly is still distressed as a consequence." (Read more: NRL chief slams attitudes)
Mr Gyngell said Johns had agreed the decision was in everyone's best interests.


The former Test star arrived at Nine's Sydney offices this morning, along with his manager John Fordham, for the meeting with Mr Gyngell.
In yet more fallout from the explosive Four Corners program, a young Newcastle Knights player who made the "cuddle and cab" remark has received counselling from the club. (Read more: Knights player counselled over 'cab remark'

Simon Williams, a promising Under 20s centre, has been shielded from the media since telling the program much of the drama could be avoided if the female involved was properly thanked and "put in a cab".
 

Engine

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Do you guys honestly believe that Johns should have kept his job? Channel Nine had no choice but to sack him.

TV is all about image. Johns did not project a good image for the game.
 
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well, he pontificates a hell of a lot

so well might be

He's looking at barney...

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i apologise for things i have no blame for all the time

an apology is not always acceptance of blame

sometimes it is an expression of sympathy

:roll:

I accept that. But then I suppose, why did he feel the need to offer her sympathy? She by his account had a great time - was he being sympathetic or apologetic for the guys only being able to manage 2 hours? :roll:
 

El Diablo

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Grimshaw was a bitch. she took sides when she has no idea what went on

i'm not into gangbangs but i'm not into sucking some blokes tool either

given the choice i'd participate in a gangbang sooner than i'd suck dick

does that make homosexuality wrong? no
 

Twizzle

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Do you guys honestly believe that Johns should have kept his job? Channel Nine had no choice but to sack him.

TV is all about image. Johns did not project a good image for the game.

no doubt public pressure forced their hand, they apparently had alot of phone calls
 

Apey

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I accept that. But then I suppose, why did he feel the need to offer her sympathy? She by his account had a great time - was he being sympathetic or apologetic for the guys only being able to manage 2 hours? :roll:

You didn't even watch the interview did you. #-o
 
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Will the other Cronulla players involved attend?

hahah

maybe.

could run into "two and a half men"

thats an employer for ya. pretty much sack you..then drag you out to milk one last ratings spike at yours and your families expense.
 
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Do you guys honestly believe that Johns should have kept his job? Channel Nine had no choice but to sack him.

TV is all about image. Johns did not project a good image for the game.

You problem is that you think they care about the game at 9.

If they cared about the game, why would they leave on shows that plug the competition?

If they cared about the game why are they always falling over themselves to suck the opposition's arse?

If they cared about the game, why would NRL matches be shown in the early AM in the southern states when AFL is all over our screens in NSW and Qld, in prime time, even when it rates less than Iron Chef?

They couldn't care less about the game.

f**k channel 9.
 

Engine

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You problem is that you think they care about the game at 9.

If they cared about the game, why would they leave on shows that plug the competition?

If they cared about the game why are they always falling over themselves to suck the opposition's arse?

If they cared about the game, why would NRL matches be shown in the early AM in the southern states when AFL is all over our screens in NSW and Qld, in prime time, even when it rates less than Iron Chef?

They couldn't care less about the game.

f**k channel 9.


You are turning this into an AFL v NRL debate. It has nothing to do with it wanker.
It has EVERYTHING to do with tv image. Before this incident came out, Matthew Johns had an excellent image with a large number of league followers. There can be no disputing the fact that Matthew Johns done the wrong thing MORALLY.
If it was Mick Jagger involved, nobody would blink an eyelid. Johns had a positive image that will be forever tarnished by this incident.

I don't blame nine at all. They had no choice but to cut him.
 

Pigskin

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not that we needed confirmation after "The Final Winter" but Johns is a sh*t actor

thought the whole thing was contrived ... don't believe for a second that he is as upset as he looked

am concerned that he has been "stood down indefinitely" from Nein duties ... wtf is that ... I want to hear the word "sacked"

his wife is the biggest moron that appeared tonight ... so gullible

adios ... for now ... loser Johns

Oink !
 
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Agree with the general sentiment here that Johns has been hung out to dry but also hope that the deep breaths and the pauses by Johns were geniune in the interview with Tracy Guttershaw ??..
 

Rudderriffic

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There can be no disputing the fact that Matthew Johns done the wrong thing MORALLY.

Of course there is, it would be impossible to argue this point on the basis of morals. Morality is completely subjective and depends wholly upon the individual. I would dare say the morals of many people on this forum are poles apart. I believe the word you are searching for is ethics. He did something unethical.
 

Apey

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Agree with the general sentiment here that Johns has been hung out to dry but also hope that the deep breaths and the pauses by Johns were geniune in the interview with Tracy Guttershaw ??..

I asked myself the same thing but then I thought, how would we know? We have always know him as somewhat of an energetic character - we have no idea what he's like when he's sad and it would be pretty baseless for anyone to accuse him that didn't know him personally of not being genuine.
 

Shorty

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^But apparently you can't apply the same logic to the woman involved? Why?
 

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