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Logo Change

docbrown

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The 'old gold' idea was one I toyed with, but didn't really look vibrant enough in my eyes. On a jersey, it'd look fantastic, but on the logo ... I wasn't so sure.

Well you're doing some great work.

I guess I wanted to see what the old gold looked like but I agree - yellow for the background plate works better and makes it more vibrant with the kangaroo more distinct.

There's nothing that says any way that a logo has to have 100% the same colour scheme as the jersey. Titans use silver in their logo for their swords. Red & old gold is still the best combo for the jersey though.

I'd also say your first 'REDS' was better, with the colour as a highlight, as it keeps the 3D with the kangaroo. What I meant was to change the white infills to old gold, but looking at it, white is probably the best.

The eyes are working well now too.

Comparing the two, here's my final thoughts (I won't say anything again), just as a comparison with the original image:
* Take the first one
* Put the pupil in the eye
* Change the 'W.A.' and the Football to Old Gold

I think that could be the winner then.
 

docbrown

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Oh and it'd be cool if we could then take that logo and put it on Perth Red's red & old gold jersey :)
 

Nuke

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Not to nitpick, but I strongly believe that the 'WA' text should remain white. You want that to be something people see almost straight away. I am not a big fan of the current trend in the NRL that club logos heavily promote the nickname but have the area they're representing as a minor thing. To me, your club should represent your area (be it city, town, suburb, country (NZ), or in this case, state). Looking through the 2011 NRL logos, only St.George-Illawarra, Wests, Parramatta, and Souths have equal sized text for who they represent and their nickname (with the obvious exception being St.George-Illawarra who still don't have the word 'Dragons' anywhere on their logo). Even my beloved Newcastle Knights' logo disappoints me. It's a great logo, don't get me wrong, however the fact that Newcastle plays only a bit-part compared to the Knights in the logo, to me, isn't right.

Having said all that, I'm also guilty here of making 'REDS' larger than 'WA', but at least 'WA' stands out more as white text.

I will try the other suggestion/s though, but I do expect the footy to be better white than old gold, but we shall see!
 

Nuke

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Here is that version of the muck-around logo. Actually, the old gold footy doesn't look bad. I'm 50:50 on that one compared to the white one. I think logically, the white one makes more sense (that's what League is played with afterall), but both look equally as good.
WARedsalternatelogo-1.jpg


In the end, we're all just having a bit of fun anyway. Killing some off-season time. So it really doesn't matter what we do or think about my logo or the real one!
 

Nuke

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For what it's worth, here's my interpretation of PerthRed's 2013 WA Reds jersey - complete with my little logo.

I went with KooGa as the jersey maker given the WARL's decision to use them exclusively for however many years the deal is for (WA local clubs anyway ... I don't know if this extends to the WA Reds as well).
WARedsjerseyidea.jpg


I'm thinking the alternate jersey to this should be: body = gold, thick lines = remain black, black outline = red.
This would not only provide a contrast to pretty much every NRL team, but would also represent WA as the two main colours would be black and gold. This would also allow the Reds to keep the same design as main and alternate but just reversing the colours.
 

docbrown

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Here is that version of the muck-around logo. Actually, the old gold footy doesn't look bad. I'm 50:50 on that one compared to the white one. I think logically, the white one makes more sense (that's what League is played with afterall), but both look equally as good.
WARedsalternatelogo-1.jpg


In the end, we're all just having a bit of fun anyway. Killing some off-season time. So it really doesn't matter what we do or think about my logo or the real one!

Yeah it's fun having a look at all the variations and I definitely think you should sent all of them off to WARL and the people running the bid. I think your kangaroo and diamond design is a big improvement.

Now that you mentioned the region bit (WA) and making it stand out, perhaps it needs to be initialised - so instead of 'WA' maybe 'W.A.'
 

docbrown

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I'm thinking the alternate jersey to this should be: body = gold, thick lines = remain black, black outline = red.
This would not only provide a contrast to pretty much every NRL team, but would also represent WA as the two main colours would be black and gold. This would also allow the Reds to keep the same design as main and alternate but just reversing the colours.

Yeah I agree :thumb
 

Perth Red

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Only problem with the logo on the red jersey is that by loosing the shirt the predominantly red logo does ten to blend into the jersey too much. Good effort though and will be interesting to see what they do if we get in. I hve to say that after watching the trial match at the weekend where home and away shirts were on display the current shirts do look alot better in the flesh than in pictures.
 

Perth Red

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Whoah, that was bigger than I expected it to be!


What did you have in mind, PerthRed?

Looking for two things Nuke. One is a picture we can use to promote membership to the Red Army, something like the old US Army Uncle Sam Needs you poster with the Kanagaroo in place of Uncle Sam and secondly a logo for the Red Army, something similar to the Reds logo (or yours ) but with the Kangaroo wearing Red Camo, marine style helmet and camo vest with "Red Army Supporters Group" incorporated in the logo. I am not sure if we will be able to use the Reds logo, especially when it is an NRL one so something similiar but with a distinctive difference I think we will need.


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Nuke

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Hmm, okay. I'll have a go at these when I get a bit of spare time.
 

Swamp

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For what it's worth, here's my interpretation of PerthRed's 2013 WA Reds jersey - complete with my little logo.

I went with KooGa as the jersey maker given the WARL's decision to use them exclusively for however many years the deal is for (WA local clubs anyway ... I don't know if this extends to the WA Reds as well).
WARedsjerseyidea.jpg


I'm thinking the alternate jersey to this should be: body = gold, thick lines = remain black, black outline = red.
This would not only provide a contrast to pretty much every NRL team, but would also represent WA as the two main colours would be black and gold. This would also allow the Reds to keep the same design as main and alternate but just reversing the colours.
I really like this design, very smart!
 

applesauce

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WAREDS.jpg

WAREDS2.jpg


Did 2 really quick logos. Taken the Kanagroos from other logos but the point was to get the idea of different types out. Tried to make them a little more "corporatie" like the Broncos logo.

If Perth Red was to ever get wind of WA changing the logo he could send these along with Nukes' logo through to help give the bid team ideas for their own artists to go with.
 

BDGS

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They both look like they are the wrong red. 2nd one looks too much like that North Melbourne Kangaroos logo OR the at least the logo they had the last time i saw it.

First one would look better with a lighter red though imo.
 

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