William Hopoate to sign with Parramatta Eels

[The EELiminator]

They've only had that policy for a year. I'm sure it will be easily forgotten. I would prefer DH anyway.

i dont want it to be forgotten lol its our excuse to get rid of stuart

 

[Eels Dude]

I think they'll have to keep that policy. The whole idea was that it was a full time job and to copy the Maroons. I don't know who they'd replace Stuart with though.

 

[The EELiminator]

I think they'll have to keep that policy. The whole idea was that it was a full time job and to copy the Maroons. I don't know who they'd replace Stuart with though.

*waits for someone to put up the infamous stunned mullet hagan pic yet again*

 

[Poupou Escobar]

i wonder if he will play nyc or start off lower. I know its a long shot, but has anyone seen Jamil play?

I read that Manly wanted him to play NYC this year but the rules don't allow under 17s to play that grade.

He'll be 17 next year, and with Kearney wanting juniors to regularly play up a grade, I'm certain Jamil will play at least some NYC in 2012, if not the whole season.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

I read that Manly wanted him to play NYC this year but the rules don't allow under 17s to play that grade.

He'll be 17 next year, and with Kearney wanting juniors to regularly play up a grade, I'm certain Jamil will play at least some NYC in 2012, if not the whole season.

Thanks for that PE, thats interesting. If he is as good as weve heard, im sure he will feature alot in nyc next year. Ill watch him at the trial at wenty

 

[Eels Dude]

*waits for someone to put up the infamous stunned mullet hagan pic yet again*

I think that'd be unlikely since he's already assistant coach for the Maroons ;-)

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Daniel Anderson might be the best coach available for NSW but coaching Origin is less about coaching ability and more about credibility as an Origin legend.

That said, Gould managed to become an Origin legend as a coach without ever playing at that level.

It's a tough one if they lose Stuart. As shit as he is at club level, I actually think he's doing a decent job for the Blues. But the money and the prestige for coaches is in coaching an NRL club, not a rep team.

Queensland are fortunate they have a couple of ex-Origin players who have failed coaching at club level, so they're able to have a full-time coaching staff. The Blues have a couple of blokes who fit the bill but Wayne Pearce is on the NRL Independent Commission and Tommy Raudonikis isn't good for the game's image ("Cattle Dog!")

Dymock's got a club job at least next year. I wonder if Dean Pay would be interested?

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Everyone tells me that Stuart is a shot coach so he shouldn't be hard to replace.

 

[Eels Dude]

Dymock is coach of Tonga still is he not? Not that he wouldn't leave if offered the origin job. I don't think Stuart did that good a job this year. He talked it up like he was but he's one of those coaches who can never make his mind up and he did no better than other coaches of the Blues had done the previous 5 years but somehow what he's done is considered revolutionary. No way to Tommy. We really just need a Sterlo or someone like that who has the smarts but also the experience. If Fatty could coach the Maroons to a 3-0 whitewash then anyone should be able to.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't think Stuart did that good a job this year. He talked it up like he was but he's one of those coaches who can never make his mind up and he did no better than other coaches of the Blues had done the previous 5 years but somehow what he's done is considered revolutionary.

It's unfair to judge a coach's first season by his on-field results, whether fair or foul. Remember Stuart and Hagan both won premierships in their first seasons at club level.

We like to take the piss out of the word but a coach's first year anywhere is about establishing the S-word.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

I think you can judge an origin coach in his first year. It's a bit different as he isnt stuck with a team of players handed to him. He can choose whoever he wants.

 

[Eels Dude]

It's unfair to judge a coach's first season by his on-field results, whether fair or foul. Remember Stuart and Hagan both won premierships in their first seasons at club level.

We like to take the piss out of the word but a coach's first year anywhere is about establishing the S-word.

Well I think rep footy is a bit different to club level. You don't need to build a squad, you can hand pick it yourself. On top of that you only need to get your side to perform 3 games a year. The fundementals would still be the same obviously, but coaching at rep level shouldn't take years of building something like it would require at club level. Especially if that coach is only committed for a single year.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Daniel Anderson might be the best coach available for NSW but coaching Origin is less about coaching ability and more about credibility as an Origin legend.

That said, Gould managed to become an Origin legend as a coach without ever playing at that level.

It's a tough one if they lose Stuart. As shit as he is at club level, I actually think he's doing a decent job for the Blues. But the money and the prestige for coaches is in coaching an NRL club, not a rep team.

Queensland are fortunate they have a couple of ex-Origin players who have failed coaching at club level, so they're able to have a full-time coaching staff. The Blues have a couple of blokes who fit the bill but Wayne Pearce is on the NRL Independent Commission and Tommy Raudonikis isn't good for the game's image ("Cattle Dog!")

Dymock's got a club job at least next year. I wonder if Dean Pay would be interested?

How about Mick Cronin, he is still coaching in the country. Has experienced origin and as you said coaching NSW is not about coaching ability but credibility. Plus I am sure he could get some decent assistants to help out.

 

[Parra Pride]

which raises the question who will be the nsw origin coach next year? assuming they keep their policy of having a non club coach running the side

DA.

 

[greena]

Regarding Hopoate's 2 year mission, i seem to remember another highly regarded Hopoate son playing with the Rossters u20's a few years back. He also left on a 2 year mission but didn't seem to make it when he returned.

Anybody eslose remember this.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well I think rep footy is a bit different to club level. You don't need to build a squad, you can hand pick it yourself. On top of that you only need to get your side to perform 3 games a year. The fundementals would still be the same obviously, but coaching at rep level shouldn't take years of building something like it would require at club level. Especially if that coach is only committed for a single year.

It's definitely not the same as building a club but you still have to build the culture and S-word of the rep team. You still have to decide who your key players are and blood the ones without rep experience.

 

[Parra Pride]

No, but I remember Reni spending two years out of the game, only to come back and play some great footy.

 

[jason taylor]

Regarding Hopoate's 2 year mission, i seem to remember another highly regarded Hopoate son playing with the Rossters u20's a few years back. He also left on a 2 year mission but didn't seem to make it when he returned.

Anybody eslose remember this.

That was John Hopoate's brother Albert. He wasn't as talented as Will

 

[Joshuatheeel]

That was John Hopoate's brother Albert. He wasn't as talented as Will

and he never played NRL, origin or won a grand final before going on his mission either

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Regarding Hopoate's 2 year mission, i seem to remember another highly regarded Hopoate son playing with the Rossters u20's a few years back. He also left on a 2 year mission but didn't seem to make it when he returned.

Anybody eslose remember this.

Yeah Albert Hopoate.

A mate of mine tried to pretend to be him to get into a nightclub in the Cross, complete with bad fobby accent.