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Kasiano nears QLD switch

Didgi

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Wrong. If Kasiano accepts Maroons selection after signing a letter of intent for the Kiwis it's a joke.

Queensland are well within their rights to select eligible players.
 
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Kiwis hit out at Origin coaches as Kasiano nears Maroons switch

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...oons-switch-20120617-20ida.html#ixzz1y5eOiZT9

SAM KASIANO'S likely Origin selection has sparked a scathing attack on rival NSW and Queensland coaches Ricky Stuart and Mal Meninga from leading New Zealand official Tony Kemp.
With Kasiano set to become the second Kiwi to switch allegiances so he can play in this year's Origin series, Kemp said something had to be done to stop Stuart and Meninga poaching players.
Despite having signed a letter of intent to play for New Zealand just two months ago, TheSun-Herald yesterday revealed the giant Canterbury prop was set to replace Dave Taylor for the Maroons in Origin III.
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Kemp said he had spoken to Kasiano within the past two weeks and was aware that he had again been approached to make himself available for Queensland.
He said Meninga was still also pursuing North Queensland prop Jason Taumalolo and Canberra back-rower Josh Papalii, who, like Kasiano and NSW prop James Tamou, are eligible to play for both New Zealand and Australia.
''That doesn't seem to matter to NSW or Queensland,'' Kemp told the Herald. ''You have got Mal and Ricky running around thinking they want to win and they will do anything to win it.
''They think that because [NRL clubs] come over here and scour for talent to bring over there at a young age, that those kids are actually Australians when they are not.
''The kids are confused and Sam Kasiano is no different. We have spoken to Sam, but it is the same as James Tamou - he signed a letter of intent to play for his homeland, which is New Zealand, but NSW and Queensland are pretty attractive for kids.''
With NSW and Queensland players seeking $50,000 per Origin next season, Kemp said players with dual eligibility would find it harder to remain loyal to New Zealand.
Kasiano, who began playing league with Otahuhu Leopards in Auckland, moved to Brisbane with his family when he was 16 years old and is eligible for Queensland after playing for Norths Devils Colts in 2009. The Herald has been told 21-year-old Kasiano is likely to play for whichever representative team picks him first.
''When they are talking about $50,000 per game, it is getting really, really hard to compete with that,'' said Kemp, who is the NZRL high performance general manager.
''I have spoken to Sam about that stuff, but at the end of the day those kids make their decisions around more than just representing their country.
''James Tamou is a prime example. He's a Palmerston North Kiwi through and through, he's inked it all over his body and there he was singing the Australian national anthem [in the April 20 Test].
''NSW and Queensland don't care where they are from. If a kid plays in Queensland because an NRL clubs signs him and puts him in a junior infrastructure then he is a Queenslander. Please.
''But I suppose you have to ask the question what do Queensland kids coming up through the grades think about New Zealanders filling their spots. In the position I am in there is a fundamental error in that NSW and Queensland aren't picking their own.''
Maroons selector Des Morris admitted to knowing Kasiano had pledged his loyalty to New Zealand but said he was still being considered for Origin III.
''Mal spoke to him last year. I think he did play up here, he came from up here when he was younger so we were under the impression that he was [eligible],'' Morris told ABC Radio.
''I have since learnt that he had signed an agreement with New Zealand or something. [But] we would consider him as a Queenslander at this stage.''


 

DeeJ

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More of this crap. And I've heard Teo is close to getting an Origin 3 jumper. QLD have plenty of forwards, no need to fill up worthy spaces to Kiwis.
 

ek999

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Teo declared himself for Qld quite a while ago didn't he. It wasn't like Tamou and now Kasiano who switch because they were told they would get picked, Teo actually wanted to play for Qld over NZ.

It's becoming a joke - Tamou, Inglis, Tonie Carroll and possibly Kasiano make a mockery of what Origin and all of rep is meant to be which is representing the state/country you come from. Not the first one to offer you a spot in the team.

I don't blame the players, it would be very hard to turn down a spot in a rep team, the officials need to make a stand and enforce stricter eligibility criteria
 

DeeJ

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Teo declared himself for Qld quite a while ago didn't he. It wasn't like Tamou and now Kasiano who switch because they were told they would get picked, Teo actually wanted to play for Qld over NZ.

Teo is one of the worse because he is a Kiwi and Warriors junior, then played for a short time at Keebra Park on the Gold Coast because he was in the Tigers system. He made the Kiwis train in squad, but never played a game.

Then he played for Samoa in the world cup, because laws are relaxed during the tournament. However, this somehow meant his alligence was 'reset' so he deferred to QLD.

It's all nonsense.

I can tolerate Thorn, Hunt and Carroll because they came to Australia as boys and learned how to play rugby league in QLD. But these new players are learning in NZ then getting recruited by NRL clubs to play in Australia in their mid to late teens.
 

Mr Saab

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No different to that joke Tamou choosing NSW over NZ.
James even admitted he was more excited to play for NSW than when he played for Australia.
 

betcats

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Yeah well James thinks a bottle of moonshine and two unsheered sheep in his bed is a good night in so i wouldnt listen to him.
 

Shorty

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It's a nothing story, he's chosen NZ and this is just media speculation.
 

ek999

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Teo is one of the worse because he is a Kiwi and Warriors junior, then played for a short time at Keebra Park on the Gold Coast because he was in the Tigers system. He made the Kiwis train in squad, but never played a game.

Then he played for Samoa in the world cup, because laws are relaxed during the tournament. However, this somehow meant his alligence was 'reset' so he deferred to QLD.

It's all nonsense.

I can tolerate Thorn, Hunt and Carroll because they came to Australia as boys and learned how to play rugby league in QLD. But these new players are learning in NZ then getting recruited by NRL clubs to play in Australia in their mid to late teens.

My bad about Teo then. I thought he declared himself for Qld back when playing for the Tigers - didn't realise any of that.

I can tolerate Thorn and Hunt for the same reasons as you but not Carroll, he played for Qld, then NZ then back to Qld and Aus. You can't have it both ways
 

Danish

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Can someone tell me how kasiano would even be eligible for QLD? Moved here 5 years ago, been at the dogs for like 3+ seasons...
 

Snappy

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Can someone tell me how kasiano would even be eligible for QLD? Moved here 5 years ago, been at the dogs for like 3+ seasons...

He played in Brisbane before going to the dogs.

Not saying I agree with his eligibility or want him in the qld team, just answering the question
 
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