Cox Plate

[Horrie Is God]

Long John trading at $7.40..

Foreteller trading at $24..

Super Cool trading at $22..

 

[Horrie Is God]

The Valley specialist Rekindled Interest trading at $70..

 

[Horrie Is God]

I think Super cool has the form at Moonee Valley and a much better chance if there is plenty of give in the track. I'm also starting to think the maiden might give a sight with 49kg. If you have a good look at its last two runs in the stutt and the guineas, they were both quite phenomenal.

I'd also be very wary of Green Moon. Needs a WFA race like this for his stallion resume. Strange prep but they have shown they can get horses ready for the grand final. I think this might have been his grand final all along, not the Cup.

There all bagging that maiden Shamus Award for getting a run in the Cox Plate but he was actually HUGE effort in the Caulfield Guineas,something like that can fluke a place at big odds with the right run.

Hope you boys had something on it..

A maiden just won the Cox Plate..:shock::shock:

 

[El Diablo]

well that was unexpected

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Glad i watched that Guineas replay,Shamus Award a brilliant win

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Hope you boys had something on it..

A maiden just won the Cox Plate..:shock::shock:

Had little each way,Shamus Award did a So You Think,brilliant ride by the kid

 

[Flapper]

I had 10.14 each way on it :lol:

 

[Sphagnum]

Backed it, put it in the star stable and had a small share in the quaddie. Great day.

 

[hineyrulz]

What does it say about our WFA championship of Australia when a maiden 3 yr old wins the Cox Plate???

Great ride by the kid but FMD a maiden wins the Cox Plate lol. All the top line colts go to stud way to early leaving our WFA ranks Wazn like.

 

[Sphagnum]

What does it say about our WFA championship of Australia when a maiden 3 yr old wins the Cox Plate???

Great ride by the kid but FMD a maiden wins the Cox Plate lol. All the top line colts go to s

Best rides 1,2,3. We'll find out later on whether it's good form or not. Lots panning it ATM but seems a bit harsh considering he's 10 starts for a win and 7 placing including stutt 2nd and guineas 3rd.

 

[Sphagnum]

And the guineas winner was backed for a fortune. 9kgs a lot these days

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Media were acting as if Shamus Award was an 80 start maiden who had been racing at Esk,only had 9 starts and should have bolted home in the Caulfield Guineas last start

 

[hineyrulz]

He's a f**king maiden boys, he shouldn't have been even there in the first place, i remember a good 3yr old like elvestrom didn't get a run in the big race and he'd at least won the Guineas's prelude.

What does it say about our riding ranks when a 19 yr old apprentice pulls the pants down of all the jockeys in our biggest race??? Mehlemderp and Macdonald slaughtered their mounts. Normally if a 3yr old wins the Cox plate he is a champion or the field is average. If it is a 3yr old maiden wins what does that say about the field???? Rubbish IMO.

 

[Sphagnum]

He's a f**king maiden boys, he shouldn't have been even there in the first place, i remember a good 3yr old like elvestrom didn't get a run in the big race and he'd at least won the Guineas's prelude.

What does it say about our riding ranks when a 19 yr old apprentice pulls the pants down of all the jockeys in our biggest race??? Mehlemderp and Macdonald slaughtered their mounts. Normally if a 3yr old wins the Cox plate he is a champion or the field is average. If it is a 3yr old maiden wins what does that say about the field???? Rubbish IMO.

Or the 'maiden' might be a good horse. That's what I mean about only time will tell. Agree there were some very poor rides. Melham kept Fiorente an IADD 3 wide on Puissance de LOL and it was going backwards at the school like the myth that it is. At least Shinn did something. Fiorente and Happy trails both had their chance and couldn't run shamus award down.

So we have underwood (happy trails 4th) dato and Turnbull (Fiorente 1st & 4th) and guineas (shamus award 3rd) form all stacking up in the cox plate. Seems like a similar story to every other year.

Lots of egg on people's faces if Shamus turns out to be a multiple group 1 winner

 

[WaznTheGreat]

The horse i hyped up earlier this spring "Cauthen" spanked Shamus Award and Long John comfortably and they went on to become group one winners,don't right off Cauthen,he was injured in his last run.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

He's a f**king maiden boys, he shouldn't have been even there in the first place, i remember a good 3yr old like elvestrom didn't get a run in the big race and he'd at least won the Guineas's prelude.

What does it say about our riding ranks when a 19 yr old apprentice pulls the pants down of all the jockeys in our biggest race??? Mehlemderp and Macdonald slaughtered their mounts. Normally if a 3yr old wins the Cox plate he is a champion or the field is average. If it is a 3yr old maiden wins what does that say about the field???? Rubbish IMO.

Yep it wasn't the best of fields thats for sure but there's something about Shamus Award,he backed up his phenomenal Guineas run and produced another similar effort in he Cox Plate which leads me to believe that his win wasn't a fluke, think that horse has tremendous ability


Do horses by Snitzel train on as older horses?

 

[hineyrulz]

Or the 'maiden' might be a good horse. That's what I mean about only time will tell. Agree there were some very poor rides. Melham kept Fiorente an IADD 3 wide on Puissance de LOL and it was going backwards at the school like the myth that it is. At least Shinn did something. Fiorente and Happy trails both had their chance and couldn't run shamus award down.

So we have underwood (happy trails 4th) dato and Turnbull (Fiorente 1st & 4th) and guineas (shamus award 3rd) form all stacking up in the cox plate. Seems like a similar story to every other year.

Lots of egg on people's faces if Shamus turns out to be a multiple group 1 winner

You would hope he is at least a good horse, he just won the WFA championship of Australasia. Time will tell, he'd been unlucky all prep and i had a cracker on him in the guinea's and threw him into my tri after tossing up wether to rover IADD or Fiorente. Still spewing, the ride was a gem but i stand by my statement that all the top quality colts are going to stud far to early leaving our WFA ranks thin. Also the Cox Plate is being turned into just a run race for the Melbourne Cup, Honestly how many horses had been set for the race yesterday??? Good luck to the connections they won the lotto yesterday.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Cox Plate is no longer a race for champions cos all our breeding is based around sprinting because people want a quick return and do not want to wait for a middle distance/stayer to mature as an older horse

Id say from 1000m to 1600m our horses are world class,beyond that most of them are plod class

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Hopefully So You Think can produce some quality middle distance horses for us

 

[hineyrulz]

Hopefully So You Think can produce some quality middle distance horses for us

American is now at Stud, shocking in NZ. there are a few staying sires coming through. Street cry,Reset and Savabeel. But yes our industry is geared to speed, 2 yr olds and a quick buck. But our most richest races are staying ones, some people just don't want to wait.