Dragons players investigated over violent fight

[TruSaint]

In this day and age, between cell phones, cameras, cctv, its almost impossible not to have some footage of the incident.

 

[Redvpassion]

In this day and age, between cell phones, cameras, cctv, its almost impossible not to have some footage of the incident.

Let's hope with all this technology being used that the "victim" is crying wolf and won't be as innocent as he make himself out to be. As a dragons fan you stick up for your own until proven guilty.

 

[gonz]

Mate, I know this kid's uncle who is a fitness freak and personal trainer and he tells me that this kid doesn't drink alcohol and is a good kid. There is much more to this story then being reported. He will be cleared and I wouldn't be surprised if charges were brought against the other party. Let's give the kid the benefit of the doubt until he gets his chance to tell his story, I think we all will be surprised.

if thats the case happy days

 

[stg666]

for HIS sake , i hope you are correct .

 

[Weipa Dragon]

Garvey was probably the result of the old gong tough bloke mouthing off. Like anywhere on a good night there is a big mouth who provokes. The gong is full of them because I know after a few I was pretty cheeky and like Hercules after a few runs. Yeah probably had enough of this bloke so whacked him. The rest of the world does it from Russia to Ethiopia. If you have a but if status people will bring you down; tall poppy and if you are a footy player, people will try their luck. This bloke rolled the wrong dice I think. It's a shame now a good career may be gone.

 

[Minh]

Honestly I doubt the victim is as innocent as he makes himself out to be, I doubt that he did absolutely nothing in all of this.

 

[Redvpassion]

Honestly I doubt the victim is as innocent as he makes himself out to be, I doubt that he did absolutely nothing in all of this.

+1

 

[Twenty10]

Regardless of whether he was provoked he should have retaliated. Also perhaps a week before the season starts he shouldn't have been having a bender. Needs to learn his lesson.

 

[Minh]

Not condoning the punch or punches, although I follow and am a fan of boxing I'm not a fan of street fighting and am disgusted by cowardly acts.

 

[gonz]

Reports in paper chinless rewarded the players for
a tuff END of pre season and I dare say reward
for nines and CS performance !

 

[Gomarchin]

Reports in paper chinless rewarded the players for
a tuff END of pre season and I dare say reward
for nines and CS performance !

Isn't it great that Price has learnt nothing in his two years as a first grade coach.

Why would you reward a team before the start of the season and before they've achieved anything on the field? Everyone looks great at training and all teams have great off seasons and train hard. I'm yet to hear any team say their off season was soft.

Price has many problems but one of them is having very low standards. Did he learn nothing from Bennett in 3 years?

Our coaches (adding Young and Mary) are either delusional or in denial. Why would you play a trial against our reserve grade team? It all comes back to standards. Price has set the standards for our great club and I'm afraid winning the wooden spoon will be the direct result.

 

[saint.nick]

There's something fishy about this thing. Garvey gave that bloke a really good f**king whack to the face. Or as the media are actually calling it, as heard on Ch 9, a 'coward punch':lol: Talk about absolutely jumping to conclusions, no one has even heard Garvey's side of the story yet :crazy: If it's true that he's not a drinker, and if he was just hanging out with a group of team mates relaxing while they were getting photos and etc, then it wouldn't be off the mark to suggest that this bloke has really pissed off Garvey to have a huge wound like that to his face. From the professional standpoint, Garvey shouldn't have retaliated, but I just find it funny how people are already painting him as the big villain. Garvey doesn't deserve the villainous thug image, and the bloke doesn't deserve the innocent victim label until the true facts come out.

 

[Minh]

Can't argue with his standards being low, he can deadset find a positive from any bad performance.

 

[TheRev]

I've disagreed with a few ppl on this forum before on this topic..

imo when I look at a pub fight between a professional sports star with everything to lose, vs, one of those a**hole punters that pubs are full of who love to pick a fight and try rile up a celebrity.. then id back the professional star every time as not being the instigator of the fight.

frustrates me no end that a young star can have his career ruined over potentially just defending himself or a mate/missus from some a**hole with nothing to lose.. im sure if social media had been bigger 10-20yrs ago these stories would be every 2nd weekend.

 

[Black Forest Dragon]

Rev, I just don't think you can make the generalisations, or draw the conclusions, either side of the argument.

For better or worse however, fair or not, the cards are stacked against the player/celebrity. They are the role model, whether it is an alcohol fuelled pub brawl or a series of infidelities that become public e.g Tiger Woods. They will pay the price.

The difference is the player knows that all their fame, fortune, stature and great life-style is at stake if they mess up.

I'm not against a player physically defending themselves, but I am against violence. That means a proportionate response.

And a professional player needs to be smart enough to know if what they are risking in their response - is worth it. Some can deal with it. Some can't. Some stay away from the situation in the first place.

If a player is held out as a role model (and they know they are because they have it drilled into them), do you think the sort of response that entails the sort of injuries that were inflicted as we have seen in the photo, or like those that Russell Packer inflicted, are warranted? ...because they were provoked?? Is a member of the police force, who is also held out as a role model ...(and they know they are) permitted to inflict such an injury on a member of the public, and they expect society to accept it because he or she says they were provoked?? Police are provoked all the time.

Really, does a pub fight ever really turn out well? It's a time and place where everybody pretty much loses their better judgement. If you can't keep enough good judgement whilst drinking in a public place... then don't drink in public place. Do it at home.

And if our guy wasn't drinking, or affected by alcohol...well somehow that makes it worse.

 

[bottle]

Isn't it great that Price has learnt nothing in his two years as a first grade coach.

Why would you reward a team before the start of the season and before they've achieved anything on the field? Everyone looks great at training and all teams have great off seasons and train hard. I'm yet to hear any team say their off season was soft.

Price has many problems but one of them is having very low standards. Did he learn nothing from Bennett in 3 years?

Our coaches (adding Young and Mary) are either delusional or in denial. Why would you play a trial against our reserve grade team? It all comes back to standards. Price has set the standards for our great club and I'm afraid winning the wooden spoon will be the direct result.

It's in the paper??
Lets all believe it immediately then, they've never fibbed before!

 

[coast_dragons]

The paper lied heaven forbid.

 

[Black Forest Dragon]

And I'm no fan of Steve Price - as a 1st grade coach I think he's way out of his depth. And I'm no fan of Peter Doust, as Dragon's CEO I think he's way past his use-by date.

But to suggest that either of these men are responsible for this incident is ridiculous.

They provide enough training to players for them to know what is expected of them - the rest is personal leadership.

There is NO culture problem at the Dragons.

 

[TruSaint]

Let's hope with all this technology being used that the "victim" is crying wolf and won't be as innocent as he make himself out to be. As a dragons fan you stick up for your own until proven guilty.

Passion, mate we a dragons tragics, but we are citizens also. I just want the truth. If the victim threw the first punch, case closed. If not and its proven Garvey was the aggressor, I want him gone.

 

[Redvpassion]

Passion, mate we a dragons tragics, but we are citizens also. I just want the truth. If the victim threw the first punch, case closed. If not and its proven Garvey was the aggressor, I want him gone.

Ok let's say that Garvey was the aggressor. What if the "victim" was edging him on all night and then finally, snap, Garvey reacts. What would happen then if there was no suffiecent evidence of this "victim" being the aggressor first. Does it become a his words against mine scenario or do they just go off the assult???? Let's face it, I'm sure that's happend to people you know where they react to the rants and things that go on in the background.