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Dragons 2019: McGregor not entertaining 'spoon bowl' talk
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COMPETITOR: "He'll tell you it's only one more than 399 but we all know it's a lot more than that." James Graham in action. Picture: NRL Photos
IT'S a discussion no side ever wants to be a part of but Dragons coach Paul McGregor says he isn't treating Saturday's clash with the Titans as a dreaded 'spoon bowl'.

The Dragons are currently 14th on the ladder, level with the Bulldogs on 14 competition points, but just one win behind the Warriors and Cowboys who sit above them.

The Titans are running stone-motherless last on the back of a horror season that ultimately saw the sacking of coach Garth Brennan following a round-14 defeat to Penrith.

It's done nothing to turn their fortunes around, dropping their last three games by a combined 94 points, including last week's 58-6 capitulation to the Roosters.

It was halfback Ash Taylor's return clash after eight weeks personal leave but the 24-year-old was cut from the Titans line-up this week and may not play again this season.

The Dragons have had their own issues, dropping 11 of their last 13 games including a 12-4 loss to the Eels last week that quashed even the faintest of finals hopes.

The two sides will meet again in round 25 in what could well be a playoff to avoid the dreaded spoon but McGregor said that talk was premature ahead of this week's meeting.

"The conversation around the wooden spoon with five weeks remaining is pretty silly so I don't really want to enter into that," McGregor said.

"I will say we want to use our position on the ladder [as motivation] to improve and finish on a high to build into next season. Mal [Meninga's] come out and said they've got to show [they] care.

"Kevin's [Proctor's] come out and written letter to the fans so I'm expecting them to come down here with an attitude and we've got to make sure that ours is better.

"It's important we go out there and play with more energy and enthusiasm than our opposition and improve a few parts in our game. The last two weeks we've been in the battle but haven't won the fight so we're looking to go out there tomorrow, be in the battle and win the war."

Read more: Frizell's call to lay-off coaching staff

McGregor said his side will be extra motivated to ensure James Graham's 400th senior game of football results in a win, while centre Euan Aitken will also play his 100th game at just 24 and Jackson Ford will debut from the bench.

"He'll tell you it's only one more than 399 but we all know it's a lot more than that and a great honour," McGregor said.

"He's a person that inspires others. Everyone that plays [NRL] rugby league has got a competitive nature, a good footy IQ and a high tolerance for pain but he just takes all of that to another level.

"That's got him through a lot of the years, just his passion and his want to fight for every inch and it's important you've got leaders in your club that do that and drive others.

"He helps people around him, he's a gentleman and a once in a generation type of player. He's a great person to have involved in the club and leave a legacy here.

"It's been a year we haven't wanted but he has not stopped fighting so tomorrow's a special day for him."



https://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/6320095/mcgregor-bats-away-talk-of-spoon-bowl/?cs=3713
 

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PEARLS OF WISDOM


Renouf: Old, unwanted habits return to haunt Dragons, Warriors
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Steve Renouf NRL.com Columnist
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Fri 9 Aug 2019, 12:00 PM
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Twos clubs who were playing finals footy last season are now faced with the prospect of that notion being a one-off with the Dragons and Warriors heading back to the drawing board after underwhelming years.

Both clubs have many variables and differences but find themselves in positions they've been all too familiar with in previous years to frustrate each fan base for contrasting reasons.

My frustration with the Dragons has been around all season when you look at their roster full of Origin and Test experience.

There is no question they've had their off-field troubles and injuries at key stages but it's still a good team they roll out on paper and I beg to ask the question what's happened there.

It looks like they're going through what they went through a couple of years ago where they're failing to convert any solid position.

They can't get over the line with just 325 points scored this season but what surprises me most about that is they aren't finding points out wide when Mary McGregor was one of the best centres in the game.



Dragons v Titans - Round 21

Now before people think I'm joining in on the growing chorus of Dragons fans wanting Paul McGregor gone; I'm definitely not trying to oust Mary here because I love the bloke.

But a seasoned coach like Wayne Bennett would think he could've done something with the team this year.

So, has Mary lost the dressing room?

I can't answer that or what happens internally at the Dragons but the players aren't playing to their best standards and something has got to change.

In the general coaching terms, if you don't respect and stop believing a coach when he's telling you something then that is a big problem.

Coaches don't change too much to what their general thinking is throughout the year. They all have their own style and implement that at the start of the season and that's drilled into you as a team unit.

You're not going to waver too far off that. Coaches can be stubborn and keep saying it will work but then you've got players thinking he's saying the same thing and it's not working.

I think they've all got a reason to be disappointed, especially Mary, because for next year I don't think they should recruit anyone and that's saying something. They've got a good roster capable of more.

They've had their big pack for a while now, they've been together for a couple of seasons and as an outside back you'd love to be playing behind that engine room. It's certainly a wasted year.

Then there is the Warriors. Another club who broke into the finals after a long drought but are now back in the bottom eight trying to salvage something from their year.



Warriors v Sea Eagles - Round 21

It's a typical Warriors season, it's what we've come to see over the years and it's a shame they can't shake that because I thought this year they could've backed up their efforts even without Shaun Johnson.

I can feel the frustration from Stephen Kearney across the ditch. He's been more animated than ever in recent weeks because the pressure is there.

He is not naturally a person to yell at his side and kick a towel across the room like what we saw at half-time against the Raiders.

I've known him a long time and he's not like that. Seriously, who would want to be a coach? You couldn't pay me enough to be in their position.

When he was at the Broncos as an assistant coach the feedback I got back from players was positive. Prior to that he'd had a chequered history with Parramatta.

Instead of shifting blame onto coaches I would like to see a lot more responsibility on other people in club's who make big decisions.

For the Warriors, I'd be looking at people around the club who have been there before Stephen was there. Do they play a part? Should there be a change up in the off-field ranks there?

I always say where are the people who are making these decisions? When are they ever held accountable?

Kodi Nikorima was a welcomed addition for the Warriors but needs more time. In this game sometimes there isn't enough.

Either way both clubs need to finish the year strong and re-focus on next season because they have rosters to compete with the best and ensure their 2018 finals campaign was not just a one-off appearance.



The views in this article do not necessarily express the opinions of the NRL, ARLC, NRL clubs or state associations.


https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/08/09/renouf-old-unwanted-habits-return-to-haunt-dragons-warriors/
 

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New assistants, new attacking coach. They are a tired team......thats all the board want to here. it is all everyone's fault. Joey did say new coach but that will get puit in the background to the other things he said.
 

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"Articles"
Far too many of them.
I cannot believe that so much can be written by so many about so few.
In all honesty the drivel that is written about the most minute happenings is just laughable.
 

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"Articles"
Far too many of them.
I cannot believe that so much can be written by so many about so few.
In all honesty the drivel that is written about the most minute happenings is just laughable.
OT..that is modern rugby league journalism 24/7 style. You should be by now used to and attuned to it. if you at least read the headline..they have done their job.
 

getsmarty

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"Articles"
Far too many of them.
I cannot believe that so much can be written by so many about so few.
In all honesty the drivel that is written about the most minute happenings is just laughable.

Hi OT...I agree with you in regards to most of the articles being dribble. I don't know if you have noticed, but I have been posting fewer as of late. It is rather time consuming and that is why I am posting fewer.
In all honesty, If one were to post according to content, then there would be little to post.

I am happy to continue posting as its my contribution to the forum and apologies if it does annoy you.
Have a Great day.
 

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Hi OT...I agree with you in regards to most of the articles being dribble. I don't know if you have noticed, but I have been posting fewer as of late. It is rather time consuming and that is why I am posting fewer.
In all honesty, If one were to post according to content, then there would be little to post.

I am happy to continue posting as its my contribution to the forum and apologies if it does annoy you.
Have a Great day.
Hi,
I have no complaints with your diligence to the task and in fact appreciate it.
I do however just have the utmost contempt for the relentless churn of articles about nothing in addition to the number of articles by nobody's.
 

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Hi,
I have no complaints with your diligence to the task and in fact appreciate it.
I do however just have the utmost contempt for the relentless churn of articles about nothing in addition to the number of articles by nobody's.
Unintentional irony
The irony is, obviously, unintentional. Seldom used in a work of art, often in premonitions that ironically turn right. It is a negative kind of coincidence about which the author has very little knowledge or doesn't have any such intention.

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Hunt takes stand against online trolls
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Brad Walter NRL.com Senior Reporter
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Tue 13 Aug 2019, 05:24 PM
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St George Illawarra halfback Ben Hunt has reached out to former team-mate Josh McGuire after death threats and abuse by social media trolls forced the North Queensland enforcer to approach Cowboys officials about mental health support.

Hunt sought professional help himself 12 months ago after being worn down by the vitriol directed towards him over the Dragons' late-season slump and has been in regular contact with McGuire since last Thursday night’s Cowboys-Broncos match.

The Maroons and Kangaroos forward has been the subject of a relentless on-line hate campaign after being reported and subsequently suspended for a facial on David Fifita, which resulted in his third contrary conduct charge of the season.

Hunt played with McGuire at Brisbane and the Dragons playmaker said he had been trying to help his representative team-mate deal with the abuse, which prompted McGuire’s wife Tanyssa to go public with details of death threats against him.

“I am really good mates with Josh and I know he has been doing it tough the last couple of weeks,” Hunt said.

“He is a great fellow, if you know him off the field you will get along with him really well. Obviously some things have happened on the field that I am sure he is probably not proud of and he seems to be copping a fair bit for it.



McGuire upset, but not seeking sympathy

“I have had little chats with him in the last week. They are not crazy chats or anything but I know what he is going through.

“It is obviously a tough time for him and his family as well. It filters down, it is not just the player it is his wife, kids, his mum and dad, it’s everyone. He has a lot of brothers and it has hurt them as well, it is not just the player it filters down to everyone in his family.”

Hunt said suggestions McGuire had tried to eye-gouge Fifita were wide of the mark and he remained good mates with most of the Broncos players after playing 10 seasons for the club before joining North Queensland this year.

“There is no malice in it, he is not trying to hurt anyone on purpose or anything like that,” Hunt said.

“Josh is just a fiery player and he plays with a lot of energy and he is such a competitor. He really wants to win all the time and obviously coming up against his old club he was determined to get one over them.

“I know that he is great mates with most of those boys there and I am sure they had a chat after the game and there would be no bad feelings among them.”

The trolling of McGuire on social media coincided with abuse of Wests Tigers centre Paul Momirovski after he missed a conversion attempt on fulltime that would have sent last Saturday night’s match against Canterbury into extra time and a racial attack on Sydney Roosters centre Latrell Mitchell.



Josh McGuire hit with contrary conduct charge

However, it is not just on social media that players are being targeted, with staff at at Netstrata Jubilee Stadium revealing that Hunt and other Dragons stars were abused as they walked from the field after falling out of finals contention with their Round 20 12-4 loss to Parramatta.

“It’s always there, I just think it has been highlighted this week,” Hunt said.

“Players have been copping it for years and it is not going to get any easier, I don’t think.

“There is always going to be people on social media who hide behind their phones and computers and what not, and say what they want to say without being accountable for it. The best advice I can give if it is going to continue is just to stay off it. Don’t listen to advice from people who you don’t go looking for advice from.”



Tackle of the week: Round 21

Meanwhile, Hunt said he was starting to regain confidence and form after the physical and mental toll of playing three Origin matches at hooker for Queensland required him to be rested from the Round 19 match against South Sydney.

Hunt said re-uniting with captain Gareth Widdop after his return from a shoulder injury sustained in Round 3 had been a boost to him and the other members of the Dragons spine, while his performance in last Saturday’s 40-28 defeat of Gold Coast showed how much he had been missed.

“Gaz was exceptional, Corey [Norman] was good and I thought Cam [McInness] played really well. The things we worked on during the week and the plays we wanted to put on came together. We just stuck at our plan and it came off,” Hunt said.

“There have been a lot of ‘what ifs’ this season and not having Gaz is one. He is such a classy player, and another one is not having Jack de Belin. I train against him every week and he is carving us up with the reserve grade boys so not having those two guys for the major part of the year really hurt us.”


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2019/08/13/hunt-takes-stand-against-online-trolls/
 

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Dragons' 2019 Women's Premiership campaign officially kicks off
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Wed 14 Aug 2019, 01:18 PM

The squads have been finalised, the battle lines have been drawn and training has finally commenced.

If you thought the 2018 season was huge for the women's game, you ain't seen nothing yet for St George Illawarra as they look to once again take on the New Zealand Warriors, Brisbane Broncos and Sydney Roosters.

The 2019 NRL Holden Women's Premiership is officially underway for the Red V, with all 22 women descending on WIN Stadium for the first time as a squad on Tuesday night.

The Dragons hit the ground running after a quick introductory session. Team plays were nutted out from the get-go while the coaching staff put a year's worth of preparation into play.

With eight Jillaroos, four Kiwi Ferns, eight New South Wales Blues, three Queensland Maroons and two Dally M Player of the Year medals to boot, there's a sense of excitement already around the squad.

There's a long way to go before Round 1 and a lot of hard work to undertake, but rest assure the Dragons will leave no stone unturned in name of premiership success in 2019.

Become a Dragons Women's Premiership member and take your place in the team as we strive to make history once again.

A Dragons Women's Premiership membership costs just $50, where you'll receive a keyring, a certificate of membership and a special membership pin.

The first 500 people to buy a women's membership will also receive an NRL Women's Premiership ticket to a game held in Sydney.

Get your Dragons' Women's Premiership Red V membership here.



https://www.dragons.com.au/news/201...ns-premiership-campaign-officially-kicks-off/
 

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Frizell praises Mitchell for speaking up
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SPEAKING UP: Tyson Frizell says players are right to call out social media trolls who abuse them after Origin teammates Latrell Mitchell and Blake Ferguson were subjected to racial abuse online. Picture: NRL Photos
DRAGONS star Tyson Frizell says players would need to be "living under a rock" to completely steer clear of social media after Origin teammates Latrell Mitchell and Blake Ferguson were both subjected to vile racial abuse online this week.

Mitchell this week called out racial abuse he copped on his own social media channels, while news reports brought to light other racial slurs directed at Ferguson online.

The wife of Cowboys lock Josh McGuire has also spoken out about death threats her husband has received over the last week following a suspension.

They are at the worst end of the scale but people directing abuse at NRL players, racial or otherwise, on social media platforms is nothing new.

Dragons halfback Ben Hunt has stated that he's steered well clear of the online vitriol directed his way, while his wife took to Instagram last year to slam online bullies for their relentless attacks aimed at her husband.

It's a world fraught with potential difficulties but Frizell said suggestions players should stay completely offline is pointing the finger in the wrong direction.

"It's easy to just say put it aside and don't worry about it but phones, social media, the internet is part of your everyday life," Frizell said.

"Its hard not to see those things and take that in. Do you tell players not to have a phone or not open anything. You'd honestly be living under a rock if you didn't have any of that.

"Boys can cop abuse in terms of the way you play or not being a good player but for people to come out and be personal, saying things about your family or using racial slurs... it's something we can't tolerate as players.

"It's good people are becoming aware of it and we're able to say something and make something happen, not just sweep it under the carpet and ask people to ignore it."

Most people in the game, NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg among others, have thrown their support behind Mitchell for calling out the abuse.

Supporters have been in the majority, but there have been some who suggest players shouldn't give trolls oxygen by bringing added publicity to their comments.

Frizell said it's important that players speak out against it or risk sending a message to kids out there that they should simply cop it on the chin when faced with similar bullying.

"I think it's great for players to stand up against it because if we don't stand up we're sending a message to kids out there that that sort of stuff's OK," Frizell said.

"If a guy like Latrell can stand up and call that stuff out, I'm sure there's other Aboriginal kids out there that are going to be willing to stand up because Latrell did.

"It's good to see other players get behind it because it's not something you want around our game and we don't want that in society either.

"[Online abuse] is bullying. There's a lot of talk about mental health nowadays and for players to stand up and say something is great."



https://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/6331503/mitchell-right-to-speak-out-frizell/?cs=3713
 
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