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kit66

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Incorrect. It was 26th January since the 1880's, under different names, but proclaimed Australia Day for all states in 1945. Until the mid-90s some states would move the holiday to a Monday or Friday (this happened with Anzac Day as well) but Australia Day was still January 26.

You're wrong, the date has moved many times ( see above posts, complete with pics ). In 1994 someone got sick of it being moved willy nilly ( probably the business community ) and it was set at 26th Jan.

26th Jan 1788 the First Fleet / Invaders arrived yes and what did they do ? They strolled up the beach and planted a British Flag in the soil of a country they knew as New Holland and 100 years later some white guys said let's have a party what ! That's what you celebrate and fuss over but things change, slowly but usually for the better -eg Women get the vote yeeha, White Aust Policy dumped woo yeah, Aboriginal land Rights yay, Same Sex Marraige well why the hell not. So get ready because this is one of those things that requires both common sense to prevail and a bit of fkn respect to be shown. It will be changed despite what you, Andrew Bolt, Peta Credlin and others think.

And.....Australia officially came into being on 1st January 1901.
 

The_Frog

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They arrived at Botany Bay on 24th, and decided to move to Sydney Cove. A ceremoney took place at Sydney Cove on 26th January. That is what is commemorated. Not that it matters what the date was. Jesus Christ wasn't born on December 25, and the Queen wasn't born on the first Monday in June.
 

The_Frog

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You're wrong, the date has moved many times ( see above posts, complete with pics ). In 1994 someone got sick of it being moved willy nilly ( probably the business community ) and it was set at 26th Jan.
Mate I'm 66 this year, and its been Jan 26 all my life.
 

AlwaysGreen

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They arrived at Botany Bay on 24th, and decided to move to Sydney Cove. A ceremoney took place at Sydney Cove on 26th January. That is what is commemorated. Not that it matters what the date was. Jesus Christ wasn't born on December 25, and the Queen wasn't born on the first Monday in June.
So if it doesn't matter what date it was then why the hullabaloo about moving it?
 

Knight76

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This issue about Indigenous equality is not going to go away whether the date is changed or not. Nor if the flag is changed, or the anthem changed. There is always something to change to be protesting about.

The celebration is about Australia as a nation, it is not a celebration of Britain, or of the indigenous population before settlement. There are already times of celebration for indigenous culture.

During the media coverage of the "invasion day" protests, a protestor was interviewed about changing the date and they said there should be no Australia day.

What does changing the date achieve? The same protests will occur on the new Australia day as they will say it is still celebrating the invasion of their culture.

And, aren't we supposed to be ragging on Corey Norman more in this thread?
 

Perth Red

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The REAL truth about Australia Day.
Australia Day has nothing to do with Captain Cook or Botany Bay
The Landing of Captain Cook at the site of Sydney happened on the 28th of April 1770 - NOT on the 26th of January 1770.
The first fleet arrived in Australia on 18 January 1788 and landed at Botany Bay on 20 January 1788.
AUSTRALIA DAY CELEBRATES THE DAY ALL AUSTRALIANS STOPPED BEING BRITISH CITIZENS AND BECAME AUSTRALIAN CITIZENS IN 1949.
Facts about Australia Day
Our Education system and the popular press is not competently advising our children !! Twisting the truth a bit.
Don't expect the media to educate you, that's not part of their agenda. Australia Day does not celebrate the arrival of the first fleet or the invasion of anything.
The First Fleet arrived in Botany Bay on the 18th of January. However, Captain Cook's landing was included in Australia Day celebrations as a reminder of a significant historical event.
Since the extravagant bicentenary celebrations of 1988, when Sydney-siders decided Captain Cook's landing should become the focus of the Australia Day commemoration, the importance of this date for all Australians has begun to fade.
Now, a generation later, it's all but lost.
This is because our politicians and educators have not been doing a good job promoting the day. Our politicians have not been advertising the real reason for Australia Day, and our educators have not been teaching our children the importance of the 26th of January to all Australians.
The media, as usual, is happy to twist the truth for the sake of controversy.
In recent years, the media has helped fan the flames of discontent among the Aboriginal community. Many are now so offended by what they see as a celebration of the beginning of the darkest days of Aboriginal history, they want the date changed.
Various local Councils are seeking to remove themselves from Australia Day celebrations, even refusing to participate in citizenship ceremonies, and calls are going out to have Australia Day on a different day.
The big question is, why has the Government allowed this misconception to continue?
Captain Cook didn't land on the 26th of January. So changing the date of any celebration of Captain Cook's landing would not have any impact on Australia Day, but maybe it would clear the way for the truth about Australia Day.
The reality is, the Aborigines in this country suffered under the hands of British colonialism. This is as much Australia's history as the landing of the first fleet, and both should be remembered, equally. Both should be taught, side by side, in our schools.
Australians of today reject what was done under British governance to the Aborigines. We reject what was done under British governance to the Irish and many other cultures around the world. So, after the horrors of WWII, we decided to fix it.
We became our own people.
On the 26th of January 1949, the Australian nationality came into existence when the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 was enacted. That was the day we were first called Australians and allowed to travel with Passports as Australians.
Under the Nationality Act 1920 (Cth), all Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders born after January 1, 1921, gained the status of British subjects. In 1949, therefore, they automatically became Australian citizens under the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948.
Before that special date, all people living in Australia, including Aborigines born after 1921, were called 'British Subjects' and forced to travel on British Passports and fight in British wars.
We all became Australians on the same day! This is why we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January!
This was the day Australians became free to make our own decisions about which wars we would fight and how our citizens would be treated. It was the day Aborigines were declared Australians.
Until this date, Aborigines were not protected by law. For the first time since Cook's landing, this new Act gave Aboriginal Australians by inference and precedent the full protection of Australian law.
Because of this Act, the government became free to help Aborigines, and since that day much has been done to assist Aboriginal Australians, including saying 'sorry' for the previous atrocities done before this law came into being.
This was a great day for all Australians!
This is why the 26th of January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship. It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1948 - the Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of Australian Law, united as one nation.
Now, isn't that cause for celebration?
Education is key! There is a great need for education on the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January. This reason needs to be advertised and taught in schools. We all need to remember this one very special day in Australia's history, when freedom came to all Australians.
What was achieved that day is something for which all Australians can be proud!
We need to remember both the good and the bad in our history, but the emphasis must be the freedom and unity all Australians now have, because of what was done on the 26th of January 1949, to allow all of us to live without fear in a land of peace.
Isn't it time all Australians were taught the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on Jan 26th?

whilst that isn’t untrue it is also a bit of a falsification and cherry picking. January 26th was chosen for nsw celebrations due to the day the British fleet moved from Botany Bay and raised the flag in Sydney cove, the citizenship part was chosen for the 26th to represent this occasion, bit of rubbing slat into the wounds there I suppose given aboriginal people citizenship wasn’t recognised in The constitution at that point in time! (Wasn’t voted via referendum until may 1967 )

So we’ve taken a British colonisation event date that was only really relevant to Sydney and made it the national celebration day, and people wonder why the tide is turning on changing the date lol.

Not much a nationalism flag waving type so I dont really care if it moves but it would be nice to have it on a Friday or Monday day every year a bit further out from xmas! Let’s make to last Friday in February every year!
 
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_Johnsy

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This is why Howard refused to say sorry. He might have been a lot of things, but a fool was not one of them.
He committed our troops to a war based on a lie, he ran with the children overboard defence which was also based on a lie.

Are you sure that you know what a fool is?
Fool is someone who is deficient in judgment, sense, or understanding, or someone who acts unwisely on a given occasion. I’d suggest he is exactly that.
 

The_Frog

First Grade
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He committed our troops to a war based on a lie, he ran with the children overboard defence which was also based on a lie.

Are you sure that you know what a fool is?
Fool is someone who is deficient in judgment, sense, or understanding, or someone who acts unwisely on a given occasion. I’d suggest he is exactly that.
Any Australian PM has to support the US in its military incursions if they ask, otherwise we're on our own. It will be always thus. The opposition did not oppose it either. Yes he bullshitted. But it won him an election. Not a fool just a liar.
 

SBD82

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The REAL truth about Australia Day.
Australia Day has nothing to do with Captain Cook or Botany Bay
The Landing of Captain Cook at the site of Sydney happened on the 28th of April 1770 - NOT on the 26th of January 1770.
The first fleet arrived in Australia on 18 January 1788 and landed at Botany Bay on 20 January 1788.
AUSTRALIA DAY CELEBRATES THE DAY ALL AUSTRALIANS STOPPED BEING BRITISH CITIZENS AND BECAME AUSTRALIAN CITIZENS IN 1949.
Facts about Australia Day
Our Education system and the popular press is not competently advising our children !! Twisting the truth a bit.
Don't expect the media to educate you, that's not part of their agenda. Australia Day does not celebrate the arrival of the first fleet or the invasion of anything.
The First Fleet arrived in Botany Bay on the 18th of January. However, Captain Cook's landing was included in Australia Day celebrations as a reminder of a significant historical event.
Since the extravagant bicentenary celebrations of 1988, when Sydney-siders decided Captain Cook's landing should become the focus of the Australia Day commemoration, the importance of this date for all Australians has begun to fade.
Now, a generation later, it's all but lost.
This is because our politicians and educators have not been doing a good job promoting the day. Our politicians have not been advertising the real reason for Australia Day, and our educators have not been teaching our children the importance of the 26th of January to all Australians.
The media, as usual, is happy to twist the truth for the sake of controversy.
In recent years, the media has helped fan the flames of discontent among the Aboriginal community. Many are now so offended by what they see as a celebration of the beginning of the darkest days of Aboriginal history, they want the date changed.
Various local Councils are seeking to remove themselves from Australia Day celebrations, even refusing to participate in citizenship ceremonies, and calls are going out to have Australia Day on a different day.
The big question is, why has the Government allowed this misconception to continue?
Captain Cook didn't land on the 26th of January. So changing the date of any celebration of Captain Cook's landing would not have any impact on Australia Day, but maybe it would clear the way for the truth about Australia Day.
The reality is, the Aborigines in this country suffered under the hands of British colonialism. This is as much Australia's history as the landing of the first fleet, and both should be remembered, equally. Both should be taught, side by side, in our schools.
Australians of today reject what was done under British governance to the Aborigines. We reject what was done under British governance to the Irish and many other cultures around the world. So, after the horrors of WWII, we decided to fix it.
We became our own people.
On the 26th of January 1949, the Australian nationality came into existence when the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 was enacted. That was the day we were first called Australians and allowed to travel with Passports as Australians.
Under the Nationality Act 1920 (Cth), all Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders born after January 1, 1921, gained the status of British subjects. In 1949, therefore, they automatically became Australian citizens under the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948.
Before that special date, all people living in Australia, including Aborigines born after 1921, were called 'British Subjects' and forced to travel on British Passports and fight in British wars.
We all became Australians on the same day! This is why we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January!
This was the day Australians became free to make our own decisions about which wars we would fight and how our citizens would be treated. It was the day Aborigines were declared Australians.
Until this date, Aborigines were not protected by law. For the first time since Cook's landing, this new Act gave Aboriginal Australians by inference and precedent the full protection of Australian law.
Because of this Act, the government became free to help Aborigines, and since that day much has been done to assist Aboriginal Australians, including saying 'sorry' for the previous atrocities done before this law came into being.
This was a great day for all Australians!
This is why the 26th of January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship. It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1948 - the Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of Australian Law, united as one nation.
Now, isn't that cause for celebration?
Education is key! There is a great need for education on the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January. This reason needs to be advertised and taught in schools. We all need to remember this one very special day in Australia's history, when freedom came to all Australians.
What was achieved that day is something for which all Australians can be proud!
We need to remember both the good and the bad in our history, but the emphasis must be the freedom and unity all Australians now have, because of what was done on the 26th of January 1949, to allow all of us to live without fear in a land of peace.
Isn't it time all Australians were taught the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on Jan 26th?
God I hope you’ve posted this ironically.

This is what happens when people “research” their history on Facebook.
 

Billythekid

First Grade
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Because changing the date is pandering to the woke minority - yet again. You think this will be the end of the victimhood culture? They'll just move on to the next concocted grievance.

The date represents the birth of this great nation. A nation that has greatly benefited ALL its citizens - despite many hardships along the way.

Plus, changing the date discussions distract from the real problems facing indigenous people, eg dysfunctional communities.

I’ll let indigenous people decide which are the real issues. This thread is yet another example of the awful community on this site.
 

Bazal

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Going allegory?

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