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08 :: QF3 Sat :: Sea Eagles 38 Dragons 6 @ Brookvale (STG eliminated)

Third Qualifying Final Result :: Sea Eagles v Dragons


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sting

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Who would showers help more????? Showers dont really bother us too much. I guess only dragon fans can answer how they perform in the wet.

yeh if it rains i'll be concerned. we played sh*t in the rain on friday, pushing stupid passes, as opposed to just good kick chase. plus the rain kinda nullifies our outside backs
 

Daddycool

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Both sides have every right to be confident. However, I think Manly will win.

The main reason cited by most Dragons fans, is the recent winning record, they have over the Sea Eagles. I'll accept this is a fair point.
In '05 and '06 the Dragons had the much stronger team, so you would expect them to win those matches.
In '07 they played twice. Both scores similar, for a win each.
This years only match, the Sea eagles took the Dragons too lightly. They dropped the ball time and again, yet defended very well. They hung in, keeping the score close to give themselves a chance of snatching a late try. Which they were good enough to do.

The Dragons seem to be most dangerous when the are either, in the middle of a winning streak or the middle of a losing one.
When they are winning, it's like they don't think about what they have to do, they just play care free football. So too, when they are losing. They seem to think "Oh stuff this...lets just throw the ball around and see what happens". Then invariably, they win.
This time, they are coming off an unexpected loss. They were in good form and should have beaten the Roosters, but didn't.

From a Manly perspective, I feel the players have waited nearly 12 months for a second chance to make up for the disappointment in the Grand Final.
It's being played at Brookvale. I was there for the Monday night game against the Titans and the atmosphere was fantastic. This time, it WILL be Menzies, Bell's and Bryant's last ever game at Brookvale.
Also, all this talk of the Dragons having the wood on Manly and Brookvale holding no fear, to the point where they even consider it a home away from home.....
That might just have the effect of really firing up the Sea Eagles players!!
 
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Gaba

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Actually i think it was the dragons who let manly back into the game by dropping alot of ball , then manly caught the disease , when the dragons werent dropping the ball they were scoring with ease and always looked like they were going to win that night. Until the dropsy came in for both sides.The only reason manly got close it was because the dragons couldnt hold onto the ball.

If the dragons start the same way and maintain it without making stupid errors like they did against manly who didnt look like scoring until dragons dropsy started, dragons will win 13 +,
 
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Jono1987

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Got my tickets this morning and really looking forward to saturday night. Rain stay the FU*K away!
 

dragondad

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Actually i think it was the dragons who let manly back into the game by dropping alot of ball , then manly caught the disease , when the dragons werent dropping the ball they were scoring with ease and always looked like they were going to win that night. Until the dropsy came in for both sides.The only reason manly got close it was because the dragons couldnt hold onto the ball.

If the dragons start the same way and maintain it without making stupid errors like they did against manly who didnt look like scoring until dragons dropsy started, dragons will win 13 +,

Right you are Gaba,I think at one stage we had not completed 8 sets of six in a row.
 

effnic

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yeh if it rains i'll be concerned. we played sh*t in the rain on friday, pushing stupid passes, as opposed to just good kick chase. plus the rain kinda nullifies our outside backs
Well then bring on the rain lol. Got my tickets just then pax: 9640
 

gong_eagle

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Lyon bumps Menzies back to bench

Brad Walter | September 10, 2008
http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/new...1220857547268.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1


Manly great Steve Menzies will start his last match at Brookvale Oval from the interchange bench in the unfamiliar No.17 jumper after being chosen to make way for Jamie Lyon in Saturday night's qualifying final against St George Illawarra.
Menzies, who has played a record 346 first-grade matches for the Sea Eagles, is leaving at the end of the season to finish his career with English club Bradford and regardless of the result will not play at Brookvale Oval again.
Should Manly beat the Dragons, the premiership's second-ranked team will receive another home final the week before the October 5 premiership decider but under NRL rules they will have to play at either Sydney Football Stadium or ANZ Stadium - the two venues allocated for Sydney teams after this weekend.
If the Sea Eagles were to win this weekend and then make the grand final, Menzies would equal former Western Suburbs and Canterbury five-eighth Terry Lamb's record for the most top grade appearances in premiership history, while a loss would enable him to play an extra match and become the first person to play 350 games.
But the 34-year-old back-rower, who is also the game's greatest tryscoring forward and second overall to Team of the Century winger Ken Irvine, appears destined to play out the finals series from the interchange after being named yesterday on a five-man bench that also included hooker Heath L'Estrange, back-rower Adam Cuthbertson and props Mark Bryant and Jason King.
After making a successful return from the knee injury that had sidelined him for the previous six weeks in last Saturday night's 34-16 win over Penrith, Lyon was named to start at five-eighth against the Dragons.
Despite Menzie's big match experience, which includes grand final appearances in 1995, 1996 and 1997 as well as last year, Manly coach Des Hasler has opted to start with journeyman prop Glenn Hall in the second-row and use Menzies as a strike weapon from the interchange.
St George Illawarra coach Nathan Brown, who will be in charge of his last game with the Dragons if they lose, has also resisted the urge to go with sentiment by dumping fullback Brett Morris after Jason Nightingale was cleared to return from the quadriceps injury that ruled him out of last Friday night's match against Sydney Roosters.
With Morris's brother Josh having signed with the Bulldogs for next season, the 22-year-old twins - sons of former Dragons great Steve Morris - may never get to play together again.

Brown was also unable to find room in his starting line-up for five-eighth Jamie Soward, who was named on an eight-man bench that includes veteran hooker Simon Woolford, who will retire at the end of the season.
Back-rower Ben Creagh was named and is expected to play after recovering from the heavy knock he took last Friday night when tackled off the ball by Roosters utility Setaimata Sa.
Creagh was badly concussed and required several stitches in his cheek but the Dragons camp were largely unconcerned about the tackle and the NRL match review committee decided not to take any action against Sa.
In other teams news, Roosters coach Brad Fittler promoted Lopini Paea to start against Bribane in place of the injured Willie Mason (knee) and included his brother Mickey onto the interchange bench but backs Amos Roberts and Shaun Kenny-Dowall will make their returns for feeder club Newtown in the NSW Cup.
Canberra utility Marshall Chalk was yesterday named on the bench for Saturday night's clash with Cronulla after missing last week's match against the Bulldogs with a broken thumb but he is in extreme doubt and rookie back-rower Joel Thompson is on standby to replace him.
Storm lock Dallas Johnson was also named to play against the Warriors on Sunday but is considered no chance of recovering from the knee injury sustained against Souths last weekend.
- Recent trials in the under-20s competition of 11 players per side and a rule change giving the defending team a 20 metres re-start for defusing any kick in-goal has not received positive feedback from players and coaches, a meeting of NRL chief executives was told yesterday.
However, there was some support for the two referees experiment, with feedback suggesting that the trial had the effect of reducing the 'wrestling' tactics and adding speed to the game.
 

Terry-Randal

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Question, is there any chance that manly and melbourne could meet during the semis or they can only meet if both are in the granfinal.? someone told me if either lose their opening game they could meet before the grand final.
 

gong_eagle

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Question, is there any chance that manly and melbourne could meet during the semis or they can only meet if both are in the granfinal.? someone told me if either lose their opening game they could meet before the grand final.

grand final only
 

gong_eagle

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gong_eagle

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Manly quick to praise home-wrecking Dragons

Andrew Stevenson | September 11, 2008
http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/playing-those-mind-games/2008/09/10/1220857636436.html

HAPPY to play reverse mind games with pike, Manly were almost ready yesterday to roll over and concede victory to St George Illawarra before the whistle is blown at 8.30pm on Saturday.

What might be Fortress Brookvale to everyone else is a run-down suburban backyard to the Dragons, who boast an imposing record against the Sea Eagles, with a high conversion rate at Manly's home ground.

The Dragons have won seven of the past eight games between the two clubs, holding their record at a time when Manly have surged to the top of the ladder. At Brookvale, the Dragons have won three of their past four matches. And in their only recent finals clash, the Dragons flogged Manly 28-0 at the SFS in 2006.

If that record rankles Manly, coach Des Hasler and players such as returning five-eighth Jamie Lyon were doing their best not to show it.

"They're our bogy team, I suppose, and they should beat us, the way they've been going," Lyon deadpanned.

Hasler was only slightly more circumspect, suggesting, "They should be pretty confident. They'll come ready to play. I guess it's a tick in their box."

The more confident they come, the better Hasler seems to like it, having spent a year trying to keep his Sea Eagles flying under the radar, undeservedly so, with Manly pipped in the last round for the minor premiership.

But the coach is always ready to praise his opponents, acknowledging the imminent departure to France of centre Mark Gasnier (to play rugby with Stade Francais) and prop Jason Ryles (to play with Catalans in the Super League) may well inspire the Dragons to an even better performance.

"They've got some great individuals," Hasler said of the Dragons. "They've certainly got a side that can beat anyone. That's what I think about this top eight - it's a lot tougher than it was last year."

Centre Steve Matai predicted the Dragons would continue with their fiery approach, most obviously on show when St George Illawarra stood toe-to-toe with eventual minor premiers, the Melbourne Storm.

"I definitely think they're going to come out like that. The way they've been playing this year, they've definitely run the ball hard and tackled hard, and I don't think it's going to change," he predicted. "We're going to do anything we can to help us win the game, and I'm sure they will be the same."

Matai will resume his battle with Gasnier, for whom a loss will mean an end to his NRL career. The Kiwis centre was sent from the field for a late and high tackle that knocked Gasnier senseless in a Test last October.

In recent weeks, Matai's trademark rushes out of the defensive line have been on show, with rib-tickling effect.

But he admitted he'd have to take things more carefully against the wily Dragon.

"He's got great footwork and a great fend so if we rush up on him he's definitely going to put one on me and I'll look stupid," Matai said of Gasnier. "He's one of the strike players, and I'm going to have to be on my game to stop him. I've got to get up in his face and cut his thinking time down."

While the Dragons have their stars, so too do Manly, with captain and halfback Matt Orford walking off with this year's Dally M player of the year award. Orford was thrilled with the honour.

"I'm probably still pinching myself," he said.

Matai reckoned the captain would go on to even bigger things with the recognition.

"I thought he turned up this morning with a spring in his step," he said.
 

gong_eagle

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Demons driving the Ox in finals

By Dean Ritchie | September 11, 2008
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/nrl/story/0,26799,24326848-5006066,00.html

BY claiming rugby league's Dally M Medal, Manly halfback Matt Orford killed off the theory he was too small to cut it in the NRL. Now Orford must confront the other stigma which haunts him - that he chokes in big games.
Orford yesterday returned to training at Narrabeen just 12 hours after winning the most prestigious individual award in rugby league.
Orford will now throw all his focus into Saturday night's blockbuster semi-final against St George Illawarra at Brookvale Oval. Asked where the Dally M rated in his career, Orford said: "It's at the top at the moment.
"It's the best individual award you can get. The whole night was pretty much a blur. It went so quick.
"To realise you are in the presence of some really great names (is unbelievable). You're in the history books. You've done something special.
"The award is so prestigious and I am grateful (to be chosen).
"You don't get too many opportunities like this. It is something I can reflect on after I retire."
Orford has been much-maligned his entire career yet continues to be ranked among the game's elite players.
With a season to run on his contract, Orford, 30, said he planned to retire as a Sea Eagle. "If the body and mind and passion is still there, I'd definitely like to stay here," Orford said.
"Why would I want to leave this?
"I've got the beaches, got a great club but at this stage I haven't really thought about it too much.
"I'll get through this year and worry about my future come next year.
"I wouldn't rule out England, you never say never. It would give you the chance to do some travelling." Manly CEO Grant Mayer said Orford was in the club's long-term plans.
"He's our captain and an integral part of our team," Mayer said.
"As his Dally M win shows, he's rated among the best in the NRL and we'd certainly like to sit down with him next year and discuss his plans.
"We haven't spoken to him yet about it and he hasn't requested a get-together but once the dust settles on this season we will definitely have a look at the situation.
"It's very heartening to hear he has come out and declared his loyalty."
Manly coach Des Hasler praised Orford's Dally M success.
"It was a great reward - Matt has worked very hard," Hasler said.
"It is well-deserved."
St George Illawarra have won nine from 12 matches against Manly and four from six at Brookvale.
"They have a good record at Brookvale so we are going to have to be on our game," said Manly centre Steve Matai. "There are a few things we need to tweak."
 

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